Open 675: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game Over!)

[Spade_Ace]

@mod sorry not sure whether the above msg is against the rules. If so please edit it.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh

huh. yeah thats something

i hope everythings alright alban, sorry if i frustrated you :<

spade what do you think of alban?

[Prince Lyon]

I still think the slot is scum but I'm going to give the replacement some space to do stuff.

UNVOTE:

[Prince Lyon]

Eh we can just lynch them. I don't want that slot making it to endgame.

VOTE: Alban

[Spade_Ace]

Fair enough though. Maybe they just wanted to kill the tracker anyway.

There is another explanation to this. The universal backup / Titus is town. Scum didn't want Titus getting a very strong power role. So they purposefully killed Wheme.

[Prince Lyon]

Actually that makes sense. Tracker's one of the weakest prs if they can't get one of the 1 shots.

[Prince Lyon]

Or Titus is scum and she wants tracker but I don't think she is.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

dave idk if you know how to answer this (or even want to i guess) but can you briefly describe the difference between your scumgame and your towngame?

i glanced at one of your scumgames and already have an answer in my head but if there's some nuance i'm missing then that would be appreciated

Or Titus is scum and she wants tracker but I don't think she is.

if they wanted a tracker via UB (???¿? ub is dumb for scum) then theyd take rolecop which does the same thing but better

spades point makes sense though

[Prince Lyon]

ftr I don't actually think schadd flips scum

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Titus

I think replace out is nai, and I'm not considering it. Really didn't like their reads when they came back so I'm willing to vote them now

Titus doesn't feel town.

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

I have a better idea

Titus tracks me tonight, and outs where I go.

If she picked Role cop, she'll know my role but not where I went.

[Dunnstral]

Not sure if there's a better use of the tracker

would rather confirm titus as tracker rather than hope she blindly hits scum making the kill

[gigabyteTroubadour]

VOTE: Titus

I think replace out is nai, and I'm not considering it. Really didn't like their reads when they came back so I'm willing to vote them now

Titus doesn't feel town.

is the bit under the vote for titus or alban or titus? luv replaced out so idk but im assuming it's alban?

[Dunnstral]

alban

[davesaz]

dave idk if you know how to answer this (or even want to i guess) but can you briefly describe the difference between your scumgame and your towngame?

I make knowingly bad cases against people when scum. As town I feel no need to do this so only make cases when they're good. (though whether people agree or not is another matter)

[Dunnstral]

I don't think you make cases at all

[Dunnstral]

or ever push anything for that matter

[davesaz]

Recent example, I nailed Titus's replace in post in Pokemon as scum, though I failed to push it adequately. I made a great (but incorrect) case against Titus's apparent lies (which turned out to be a misstatement on her part given she was not actually a noble) in Code Geass.

But here's the rub: you scumread me for not making cases, when I openly admit that

as town I don't make cases

. My scumhunting is based on listening, not talking.

[Dunnstral]

you scumread me for not making cases

I never said that

[Dunnstral]

My scumhunting is based on listening, not talking.

So you don't translate all that listening into opinions

That's not scumhuntng

You've voted three times this game, and two of those are on now flipped town

[Dunnstral]

Did you just link to another game that you were town in to prove you make cases instead of quoting anything in this one

I don't understand how you plan to win this game if you are town

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Did you just link to another game that you were town in to prove you make cases instead of quoting anything in this one

I don't understand how you plan to win this game if you are town

i mean

he's town

[bangthemafia]

@Spade, what do u think of alban this game? I dont know why but i just fail to understand this bloodthirst for alban. What case others have for his slot?

@Everyone, somehow in this game, I see there are some players who are being scumread by others without any solid reason. Also there are some players who are being written off as conftown by some again without anything solid. I dont know about how others look at this, but the moment someone townreads me without much reasoning, I tend to reflexly get paranoid. I think town has to avoid falling into this trap of town reading those who townread us. I mean we need to work together, agreed. But nobody is a conftown unless they hav a town result by cop or they are masons. Even neighbourizer could be scum.

I dont have time next 2-3 days. But deadline is still far away. So as soon as i get some time, i m gonna ISO wheme and few others in hope to find out something.

@Spade, to be 100% honest, I m not even sure about u. U are acting quite different. Maybe you are trying to change your meta or something. I am not going to get tunneled on u as I hav a bad experience of last game where you were black goo.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

my reasoning for scumreading alban is well documented throughout the game :/

idk why people seem to suggest otherwise

[bangthemafia]

if they wanted a tracker via UB (???¿? ub is dumb for scum) then theyd take rolecop which does the same thing but better

spades point makes sense though

@Giga, please explain.
1. We have only Titus's word that he got UB. He cud hav chosen rolecop for all u know
2. I disagree. Role cop just tells scum that this guy has some sort of night action. Tracker tells u night action (by virtue of movement) PLUS by knowing the target and their subsequebt behaviour next day, some more things can also be deduced. Eg. If tracker's target visited scumkill and the kill fails, tracker knows his target is a protective role.

So yes, scum does hav interest in acquiring tracker. If scum is in slightly mid to low position in draft, they can try UB/RC and then try to get their desired PR by lynching/killing. Dont forget Wheme was the only other claimed PR.