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[Alisae]

Umlaut Firebringer doesn't post cases.

[Umlaut]

I kind of picked up on that this game, that's why I'm not reading into it as far as alignment.

[Alisae]

Holy fucking shit I really need to get to this.

@Alisae, are you still willing to bet the game on 230?

Yes.

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@alisae reasoning for 525? Is this a legitimate read or confbiasing 230?

Yeah sure. I really don't feel like scum!Keyen would suggest that? It seems kinda silly to me.

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@alisae why is 533 a bad thing? If a wagon is scummy as hell people are going to be pushing to get the townie lynched, that's an ideal situation to look for inconsistent reasoning and scum slips among the wagoners

Yeah he admitted that he was scummy, but if he thought the wagon was scummy. Lowell didn't do what you're describing here. What he DID do was he joined it. But be placed the best dam vote on it.

[Alisae]

Tho as I said earlier, the only problem I have with Lowell's vote is that it seems opportunistic.

[Transcend]

Yo Umlaut

I was on two bws not one.

[Umlaut]

You're just saying that because you want to read about yourself.

But yeah, you were. I guess I'll look into you too.

[Umlaut]

Spoiler: Transcend

VOTE: alisae

alisae has enough common sense to know that eddie was probably most likely bluffing and the ratio of his reaction to eddie's claim to the seriousness of eddie's posts is significantly higher

VOTE: Alisae

alisaee is scummy

lowell is scummy

there's other scum but those are my two targets of interest

going back to alisae: i'm not sure what a town!alisae expects to get out of bandwagoning a v/la slot.

Oh yeah and there's also the gem that's 560 aka Alisae dumping all the lowposters into one giant scumcluster.

Yeah okay that seals the deal

Alisae sign me up for your "Reading Alisae 101" class

Alisae's latest posts (on townblocking) are pretty town actually...

Someone give me a new scumread, I suck at binge-reading

We're not gonna get along this game

VOTE: Umlaut

So Transcend is town. His read of Alisae makes sense, he continues to scumhunt while he pushes it, and his "well you made me misread you" attitude to Ali's claim feels like town annoyed about being wrong, which I don't think Transcend would think to fake.

That said, I have no idea why he's on my wagon now.

Yo Transcend, why did you vote me?

[Transcend]

Not a big fan of the votes you've made this game. Specifically Chickadee and Fykus.

[Umlaut]

Do you mean my vote on Fykus specifically, or any vote on Fykus? Because you voted Fykus too and were scumreading him at least through 1344.

[Transcend]

I don't like how you discredited his PR claim. And I did vote Fykus initially but decided he was town later on.

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[Umlaut]

I don't like how you discredited his PR claim.

Go ahead and don't like it then, but his PR claim was terrible and I don't buy it. If he's town the only reason to claim is under thread of a lynch, in which case he wouldn't say "I have a great PR, it's the best, you wouldn't believe how awesome my PR is," he'd claim for real.

[Transcend]

vote: firebringer

[Creature]

Hey Umlaut, why do you think scum are more likely one of the players who hopped in multiple from these wagons?

[Umlaut]

It's an (admittedly naïve) extrapolation from "any one of these wagons likely contains scum" to "the intersection of these wagons likely contains scum."

[Eddie Cane]

umalut is scum l0l

[Eddie Cane]

Uzi's wagon:

(Firebringer, Creature, Eddie Cane, chickadee, Lowell, gerryoat)

Alisae's wagon:

(Umlaut, LicketyQuickety, aronagrundy, Lowell, PeregrineV, Transcend, Eddie Cane)

My wagon:

(Eddie Cane, Transcend, keyenpeydee, Lowell, Firebringer, Alisae)

Let's assume all of these wagons are on town. (If you don't believe I'm town, you will once you lynch me.) In that case a person on any one of these wagons is more likely than default to be scum.

• 0 wagons:
  {Avagantimos, Fykus, Lexa,
  Lil Uzi Vert
  }
  
• 1 wagon:
  {
  Alisae
  , aronagrundy, chickadee, Creature, gerryoat, keyenpeydee, LicketyQuickety, PeregrineV, Transcend,
  Umlaut
  }
  
• 2 wagons:
  {Firebringer}
  
• 3 wagons:
  {Eddie Cane, Lowell}

Let's focus on the 2-3 wagoners for a bit.

Spoiler: Firebringer

Eddie you are so wrong on LQ.
Vote LUV he is really being a scum butt

VOTE: LUV

I'M SERIOUS THIS IS SCUM BTW FMMMM SHEEP ME BOOBIES

I WILL FOLLOW THIS PERSON FOREVER!
VOTE: LUV

If I had to call a three man scum team right now it would be:
Umlaut/Fykus/Ava

Last one is my weakest read.
Lynch one of them pls.

VOTE: Umlaut
Go go go.

Okay, so Firebringer isn't exactly blowing me away with his cases, and I really don't get the Eddie sheep thing. But he was so early on Uzi that you can't really call it wagoning, and his jump onto my wagon just feels like it can only be town-motivated. If he were scum wanting to push a lynch he would either promote the biggest wagon at the time or make an actual case on me, not say "I want to vote Umlaut but someone put a wagon there first."

Spoiler: Lowell

Let me take a stab at this:

page 1: fire is town, ali tries too hard, trans prob scum
page 2: lickety is newbtown
page 3: creature prob scum, fire's 59 is bad
page 4: trans' 77 is bad, 79 is sick burn,
page 5: lil prob scum
page 6: aron town
page 7: meh
page 8: eddie prob town
page 9: ?
page 10: meh, ali town I guess
page 11: dont understand the ali/aron thing
page 12: meh
page 13: lil's 300 trying to look casual, is scum
page 14: ditto 341

VOTE: Lil

The cases are garbage. All the cases. But LuV is tonally off. He's trying to emoticon and joke his way into the realm of carefree town. It works for Ali, and maybe even for eddie and fire, but not this guy.

Umlaut voters need to do something better with their time.

Ali's vote, in particular, looks shallow. Him commenting how he likes his vote in the last post, based on umlaut's nothign post, is weak.

pere and gerry are town.

VOTE: ali

This is fine. transcend would be better.

umlaut is trying to whiteknight me. It's subtle but it's there. his reaction to Ali's threat to NK me was both bizarre (why does this affect him?) and unneeded (no one takes Ali seriously). His reaction to fykus's claim is also dumb. Just vote the guy if you want, why make a scene. no one cares about your process. he's a tryhard trying to be a lurker is what I'm saying here.

VOTE: umlaut

LQ is town, creature is trending town, Ali's claim is fine, pere is town, some other things probably happening. one of fire or trans is scum but I'm hesitating on which.

• The vote on Uzi is pretty much the best Uzi vote on that entire wagon, no complaint there.
  
• I'm okay with the point on Ali, but voting him while saying "Transcend would be better"... is not so great. Dude, we had half the day left, why the rush to compromise?
  
• I think his reasons for voting me are kind of dumb (in particular scumreading someone for explaining their reasons is ridiculous), but I can't see why scum would want to alienate someone townreading them when they're being wagoned, so I can't call him scum for it.

Spoiler: Eddie Cane

VOTE: LUV

I'M SERIOUS THIS IS SCUM BTW FMMMM SHEEP ME BOOBIES

[Uzi's claim is] fake rofl

I'm pretty sure that's town!luv he's scumread me on literally every alt in every game weve played so im not shocked

Yeah I really like my vote.
I'll catch up with the rest of the game later, but 818 is not genuine at all. And that's not a town post.
If it was a town post, there would be some effort coming from him, AND he would have unvoted there.

I think this could easily be scum

VOTE: alisae

Umalut is RVS

okay first you say umlaut is scum for not explaining his vote on you and just saying "gut". now you label it as "rvs".

His vote is theroerticly RVS.
But he hasn't done anything since and is probs scum.

HE WAS V/LA OF COURSE HE HASNT DONE ANYTHING

and I think he's actually posted more than lexa

VOTE: umaploop

Okay, so.

• Disbelieving Uzi's claim is weird and he never really explained why he disbelieved it, but he never really explained anything, so whatever.
  
• The belated turnaround on Uzi is kind of a stretch. You won't believe he's town for claiming a confirmable role, but you'll believe he's town for scumreading you?
  
• Eddie claimed to scumread Alisae based on a post she made against me, though he didn't really say why.
  
• Eddie then waited two days to vote Alisae, during which time he made some 24 posts, until the wagon reached L-3.
  
• During this time he sort of vaguely defended me (more jabbing at Lexa really, but still).
  
• The next time he mentioned me was when he voted me.

I don't like any of this.

VOTE: Eddie Cane
I should have stayed here in the first place.

lemme answer this 'cause I'm a great guy. I never disbelieve uzis claim, I was seeing what he's do if I expressed doubts. the wagon was already dissipating at the time. I've said a couple times he's very likely town since then, you even quoted one.

I voted alisae because she was scummy. with that claim she's town.

I voted you because you're scum. I didn't defend you. your posting is awful and I'm surprised you haven't been hammered yet ^_^

[Creature]

We could switch back to Lowell I think.

[Eddie Cane]

no, we couldnt. sorry.

[Lexa]

Do we have a current vote count?

[Fro99er]

Vote Count 1.18

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1.18

Eddie Cane (2): Lil Uzi Vert, Umlaut
Lowell (4): aronagrundy, chickadee, Fykus, Avagantimos
keyenpeydee (1): gerryoat
gerryoat (3): PeregrineV, Creature, Lexa
Umlaut (6): Eddie Cane, Transcend, keyenpeydee, Lowell, Firebringer, Alisae
Lexa (1): LicketyQuickety

Not Voting (0):

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-04-17 18:30:10)

[Alisae]

Vc

beetlejuice

[Firebringer]

Umlaut Firebringer doesn't post cases.

Liar

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We could switch back to Lowell I think.

Nah.

[Umlaut]

Eddie, why are you explaining yourself to scum?