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[MathBlade]

I have the capabaility to vote anyone.

However being mutually townread my job is to vote last.

I did boring as a reaction test and didn't like the results. If anyone had actually voted Boring after me I would have invited.

I scumread boring right now the most but there is no way I am voting.

[boring]

If three of you want to vote IAWS, I'll throw in the hammer.

It looks like Delta wants to be convinced. It could be genuine, or it could be a buddy stall. I wonder if momo or fuzzy will dive in without too much fuss.

Sounds like here you are: "could be genuine" that indicates a waffling. Definitely doesn't indicate a scumread.

It doesn't indicate a town read, either. I wasn't handed a list of who's who when I entered the game. I just know that he's been empty. He could be empty town, but I think there's a good chance he's scum.

I'm never going to be 100% positive about anything. The surest read I have is you, and if you flip scum, I'll owe you an apology. I don't use extreme language, and I'm not irrational enough to believe I know something when all I have is a hunch. If you want to scum read my personal mannerisms, that's on you. Just do us all a favor and lynch me while we can still afford it. My vote hasn't moved, so you only need two others.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I hate it when I quick read things and misunderstand

I still not voting You or Boring for the reason I stated, Your interaction with Titus seemed townie as anything and I don't see Boring taking the chance as scum to be wagoned. Plus his wagon call seemed sincere ,

@ Math
if you scumreading Boring , why are you not voting there,,,, can you explain your logic?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ Boring
why are you helping out the scum by committing Hari Kari-

[mhsmith0]

Votecount 4.01

MathBlade (1)

DeltaW ,

IAlwaysWinSometimes (1)

gerryoat ,

boring (1)

boring ,

Not Voting (4)

IAlwaysWinSometimes , momo , TheFuzzylogic99 , MathBlade ,

Day four deadline is Tuesday April 25, 11 PM PST. (expired on 2017-04-25 23:00:00)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch!

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[boring]

@ Boring
why are you helping out the scum by committing Hari Kari-

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reasoning at length. It's crazy-advantageous for scum to keep me and Math together. Lynching me

now

prevents the autoloss of a me+Math LYLO. I'm not going to interfere with regular scum-hunting, or refuse to help with the vote if you've made a decision. However, if Math is going to be stuck on me, then this is the best day for my flip.

[MathBlade]

I am IC.
No way I am dying due to BP.
No way I am being mislynched because I am obvTown.

So as such a position my responsibility is to force scum to vote.

Of the seven players that remain 2 are likely scum.

This means a wagon without me on it either has scum or all the Town.
In essence me not voting forces scum to vote and forces lurkers out of the sidelines.

Repeat if we ever get to LYLO but me not voting helps catch scum.

[MathBlade]

For instance we all know I am confirmed town based on yesterday yet no one is interacting on DeltaW's vote on me that is telling.
Gerry doesn't want to vote boring. That is telling.

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

Newsflash, confirmed town doesn't generally have votes placed on them.

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

IAWS has done nothing, and hard protected Titus even when it was very slim chances there was 2 RBers in the game, also tried to start a cw on me to save titus once he saw he could get a few votes

Please show me where I hard protected Titus. I'd really like to see this.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ Boring
why are you helping out the scum by committing Hari Kari-

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reasoning at length. It's crazy-advantageous for scum to keep me and Math together. Lynching me

now

prevents the autoloss of a me+Math LYLO. I'm not going to interfere with regular scum-hunting, or refuse to help with the vote if you've made a decision. However, if Math is going to be stuck on me, then this is the best day for my flip.

Boring
I feel like I am stuck in-between a rock and a hard place bc I can see what you are saying, However the harder you push for your lynch the more convince that you are town. I really want to lynch scum today,,,,,, I would vote for you if we gat down to zero hour and there is a no lynch but I cant allow myself to vote town if there is a good possibility of scum being lynched,

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Reads

Town

MB
Boring

Not Sure
IAWS
Delta

not a lot on either to make me think one way or another

Scum leaning

MoMo- Seems like he could be a scum lurker and his vote on Titus could be a way of looking townie
Gerry- His defending of the Titus/Impoetic slot gives me pause. It could be his was just tunneling but I really need to find something that would make me think that before saying he is town

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I want to look into both before voting but I don't see myself voting outside those two

[boring]

For instance we all know I am confirmed town based on yesterday yet no one is interacting on DeltaW's vote on me that is telling.
Gerry doesn't want to vote boring. That is telling.

And what does that tell you, if

no one

is talking about Delta's vote? What does Gerry

and

Fuzzy saying they think I'm town tell you? Keep in mind that Gerry was also recently saying that you aren't obv. town to him (if that changed, I missed it). Please, for the love of snails, set aside the grandiosity, and take a wider view.

I'm leaning toward IAWS and Delta at the moment. I had honestly forgotten Delta was in the game for a while, which is another red flag for me.

I'd like to second the momo replacement request, by the way.

p-edit: I do understand your position, Fuzzy. I don't want another ML either, but unless we're absolutely sure we've got scum, then I'm the best ML.

[momo]

@mod replace out

[gerryoat]

@ Boring
why are you helping out the scum by committing Hari Kari-

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reasoning at length. It's crazy-advantageous for scum to keep me and Math together. Lynching me

now

prevents the autoloss of a me+Math LYLO. I'm not going to interfere with regular scum-hunting, or refuse to help with the vote if you've made a decision. However, if Math is going to be stuck on me, then this is the best day for my flip.

or you know, we could lynch mafia and avoid lylo tomorrow :^)

[gerryoat]

Gerry- His defending of the Titus/Impoetic slot gives me pause.

your logic is flawed, think of it this way. Impoetic was TR by a lot of people day 1. and I even admitted Titus had a bad start, but was willing to bypass that, until the claim. Also, look at the PRs that have flipped, 2 RBers, so mafia must have a strong PR like a strongman, why would i choose to hard buddy my goon, instead of potential needed maf PR.

[gerryoat]

I'm leaning toward IAWS and Delta at the moment. I had honestly forgotten Delta was in the game for a while, which is another red flag for me.

Then vote it

[gerryoat]

Town: Me, Boring, Mathblade, Fuzzy

Scum: 2/3 in IAWS, Delta, momo slot

we have autowin, please don't fuck this up. looking back, even though BP doesnt make sense with RBers, math and titus aren't teamed. Fuzzy was the cw to Titus, and their interaction was not teamed. Boring is town and has bad logic that can only be town logic, and I believe their ate of wanting to sacarfice themselves today.

[boring]

I'm leaning toward IAWS and Delta at the moment. I had honestly forgotten Delta was in the game for a while, which is another red flag for me.

Then vote it

I already said I'll hammer whoever you guys choose (except Math)

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

Um. How is this autowin? Boring can be scum pretending to vote for themselves to make town reluctant to actually do it. I agree Fuzzy is town though. Add yourself in the possible scum pool, though.

[MathBlade]

Gerry- His defending of the Titus/Impoetic slot gives me pause.

your logic is flawed, think of it this way. Impoetic was TR by a lot of people day 1. and I even admitted Titus had a bad start, but was willing to bypass that, until the claim. Also, look at the PRs that have flipped, 2 RBers, so mafia must have a strong PR like a strongman, why would i choose to hard buddy my goon, instead of potential needed maf PR.

Because if Titus wasn't lynched then you would have a three v three LyLO which is usually damn near impossible for scum to pull off and Titus was tunneling me in order to try to get rid of the BP.

This would have forced people who seem to be unaware of IC LyLO mechanics/hunting to lead three straight lynches. Scum we're likely not bussing until they had to.

[MathBlade]

@ Boring
why are you helping out the scum by committing Hari Kari-

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reasoning at length. It's crazy-advantageous for scum to keep me and Math together. Lynching me

now

prevents the autoloss of a me+Math LYLO. I'm not going to interfere with regular scum-hunting, or refuse to help with the vote if you've made a decision. However, if Math is going to be stuck on me, then this is the best day for my flip.

Boring
I feel like I am stuck in-between a rock and a hard place bc I can see what you are saying, However the harder you push for your lynch the more convince that you are town. I really want to lynch scum today,,,,,, I would vote for you if we gat down to zero hour and there is a no lynch but I cant allow myself to vote town if there is a good possibility of scum being lynched,

Nah Boring is scum.

Campaigning for your own lynch is a Titus trick that she could have easily given to Boring the night before or if scum have daychat the day of.

[MathBlade]

For all the roleblockers we have we likely one have one "action" PR which is the fruitvendor.

This means Strongman+encryptor would make for a great setup and then Titus tell Gerry to make sure Gerry was on that wagon.

[MathBlade]

I'm leaning toward IAWS and Delta at the moment. I had honestly forgotten Delta was in the game for a while, which is another red flag for me.

Then vote it

I already said I'll hammer whoever you guys choose (except Math)

Who do you scumread?