DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O
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With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
Day four ends Saturday, May 13th at 6:30pm EST, or in (expired on 2017-05-13 18:30:00)
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That's a lynch!
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So it's Almost Chara you're all getting rid on, eh?
Well let's find out what they could possibly be!
Spoiler: Who Dat
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This means that the scumteam ofTitus,Shaddowez, andEmpkinghas emerged victorious!!!
The Monarchy is Overthrown!!!
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whoever came up with the Empking gambit (Titus?) won the game for scum.
sorry Postie. you seemed like theonlyalternative to a lynch on us so i thought there was at least a chance for a town win. maybe if we'd stayed pushing shaddowez it would have been different. Empking seemed impossible to get lynched.
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In post 2547, Wraith wrote:Okay, so if we operate under the assumption that drealmerz and Prism are telling the truth, and I elect to trust my townreads on Shepard and Infinity, that means just by PoE the scum pool is pretty small:
Titus
Tea and Biscuits
Almost Chara
Empking
Shaddowez
And of those 5, it is likely 3 are scum.
I want to see what several of these players have to say about today's Mason drama since most of them have been absent throughout it. With the options narrowed to this I probably won't have a choice but to eventually join the Titus wagon today, simply because the likelihood of hitting scum among this is so high and he's arguably the scummiest of the bunch.
But the problem is that if Titus does flip town, the town is in a very serious situation, where we'll be in MyLo with at least three players have been designated as "LyLo lynches" - myself, drealmerz, and Prism.In post 2778, Wraith wrote:I don't buy that claim for one second.
But it's actually possible for Titus to seriously be town in this scenario - this could have been a huge gambit by Empking to get us to view him as conftown when Titus flipped Town.
Think about it. If Titus is actually scum, this is a scumclaim by Empking. So if Titus doesn't get a reprieve as a result of it (extremely unlikely at this point) and flips scum, Empking is very obviously scum.
VOTE: EmpkingIn post 2814, Wraith wrote:FFS Empking is lying period
There is absolutely no reason for a One-Shot Cop to withhold a result. None. It won't matter if he's killed (and likely will be immediately to ensure he isn't lying about being One-Shot) and it gives Town protectives a target without forcing them to out themselves. Withholding it at all just increases the chance of you dying without relaying it at all.In post 2822, Wraith wrote:
Jesus ChristIn post 2817, drealmerz7 wrote:well that doesn't do this game any good (:
we're trying to solve this game
In a general situation where there aren't a variety of viable targets the scum would very likely kill a One-Shot Cop claim immediately to make sure he isn't lying about his number of shots.
In this particular game I think it's very, very unlikely Empking will be nightkilled. Mostly this is because I think he's scum, but it's also because otherwise if Empking actually is town the scum know it and might keep him as very tempting mislynch bait. In such a scenario Empking has already made himself look exceptionally scummy with his claim and he would arguably look even worse if he came back with another result later on. A fakeclaim about shots would be a sensible town move but Empking's initial claim was so scummy that he's poisoned his well with WIFOM - we can't possibly trust anything he has to say at this point.In post 2825, Wraith wrote:
No. The WIFOM-poisoned well problem still stands.In post 2824, drealmerz7 wrote:as in, as I already posed: would you find empking's claim more believable then? especially if you assume infinity's claim to be true?
It's all tainted by the fact that a One-Shot Cop has absolutely no reason to withhold their result. That Empking did calls everything about his motives into question.
DON'T MIND ME, JUST LAYING OUT A PERFECT AND CORRECT PLAN FOR TOWN TO WIN THE GAME JUST BEFORE I GOT FUCKING NIGHTKILLED THAT GOT TOTALLY IGNOREDIn post 2827, Wraith wrote:
He didn't explain it at all. He basically said "I'd rather not have claimed at all. Also I've played Mafia a long time so my meta is a dislike of unprompted claims."In post 2826, drealmerz7 wrote:so you didn't buy his explanation at all?
you do realize that sorting WIFOM is the crux of good mafia, ya?
If you've been paying attention, you'll remember Ihavesorted this WIFOM - Empking is scum. But the WIFOM dooms him to die no matter what - we can't trust a single word he says anymore, and so he is a liability in a LyLo situation.
It's not merely that he withheld his claim to use it at the most strategic moment. He didn't even claim his result when Titus started receiving heavy scrutiny, he waited literally until the last possible moment to throw it out there. What if he was late? What if one of the fence-sitters had decided they were impatient and just hammered away hours or minutes before Empking could speak up? In such a scenario where Empking is telling the truth and Titus isn't a Godfather, he would have willfully allowed us to lynch a confirmed Townie while he held that card against his chest - even worse, he would have wasted his only shot simply because he didn't want to claim.
And to add to that, Empking has made little to no attempt to actively scumhunt or solve the game today. If he has insider knowledge on another player and was withholding his claim strategically, why hasn't he been pushing against people who are scumreading Titus or trying to PoE more scum? Even now he remains extraordinarily passive despite having allegedly laid all his cards on the table.
Like, it's WIFOM-y for y'all's perspective to shill myself, but contrast Empking's claim with my claim. Once I claimed and revealed my insider knowledge of the N1 goings-on, I threw myself into the discussion and started to try and PoE the scum based on those happenings. And even though you guys don't know for certain whether or not I'm truthful town here, I do - and I'm certainly taking our contrasting responses to claiming and claimed insider knowledge into account when I'm sorting Empking.
I'm literally repeating myself now. I don't know what about this is so hard for you to understand.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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Also just want to highlight this fucking masterpiece of logical deduction by drealmerz.In post 798, Wraith wrote:In post 3239, drealmerz7 wrote:actually if empking were scum and tried to pull that gambit with titus, it makes absolute sense also that 1 of the ppl hopping on to empking and abandoning the titus wagon when that happened would also be scum for the ultimate "1 of us will get out of this alive with supreme towncred" ployIn post 3341, drealmerz7 wrote:AC was also one who jumped off titus ASAP after the empking claim
T&B was conveniently distant from all of thatIn post 3352, drealmerz7 wrote:
there was a fast exodus of the titus wagon when you claimedIn post 3349, Tea and Biscuits wrote:Titus was never not getting lynched, dreal. People were reluctant to vote because they didn't want Titus to have the opportunity to self-hammer.
-- Postie
infinity and AC at least is who I remember jumping off fast
why do you say they were never not getting lynched? you fought for her to not get lynchedIn post 2788, Almost Chara wrote:When a scumster throws themselves under the bus so blatantly it is FOR A REASON.
Titus + Empking are conf!Scum now, but WHY would EMP so desperately out himself in an attempt to save Titus FOR JUST ONE MORE NIGHT??
The obvious answer is Titus has a much stronger role. Emp may be a Goon for all I know, but Titus has something MUCH stronger. That could be anything from a Strongman, to a double-kill ability (is this a thing) to even being an Encryptor (provides scum with daychat). I could think of more roles, but the point is TITUS HAS A STRONG ROLE. That's why she goes first.
"For Titus to be scum Emp must also be scum" is true, but the inverse of it is just as true. "If Titus flips Scum them Emp is Scum" is as true as "if Emp flips Scum then Titus is Scum". They're BOTH of the same alignment.
~A50
FLIPPED TOWNIn post 2778, Wraith wrote:I don't buy that claim for one second.
But it's actually possible for Titus to seriously be town in this scenario - this could have been a huge gambit by Empking to get us to view him as conftown when Titus flipped Town.
Think about it. If Titus is actually scum, this is a scumclaim by Empking. So if Titus doesn't get a reprieve as a result of it (extremely unlikely at this point) and flips scum, Empking is very obviously scum.
VOTE: Empking
FLIPPED TOWNIn post 2772, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't see the downside except maybe helping scum setup spec a little better.
Anyway: VOTE: empking since he has to be scum for titus to be scum.
The 1-shot part is super safe as well.
Flawless fucking logic drealmerz. Just fucking flawless.
We are hitting fractal wrongness level
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ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW:
Needless to say I got pretty nasty in the dead thread so read at your own risk.
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Good game!! T&B and AC you both played super well!! Wow!
Very sorry for getting farside modkilled. Personal apology to CK. I am glad my mistake had no other serious effects upon the game.
Wonderful game Ari!!!! Was so funny and enjoyable to spectate! (And to play while I was in there!)
Can't wait to see the full flavor list!
drealmer we shall talk in Skype!! XDXD
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Pine - Lady Jane Grey - Mafia Godfather
Tea and Biscuits - King William I - Town Motion Detector
The Wood Cutters - King James I - VT
Drealmerz7 - Queen Mary of Orange - Town Mason
Infinity 324 - King Edward V - Town Miller
Almost Chara - King George II - VT
Empking - Stephen Langton - Mafia Roleblocker
Wraith - Queen Anne - Town Doctor
Nancy - King Henry VIII - Town 3-shot Roleblocker
Börk Börk - Queen Elizabeth II - Town Compulsive Independence (fruit) Vendor
ThinkMomo - King Richard Lionheart - VT
PenguinPower - Oliver Cromwell - Mafia 1-shot Strongman
Prism - King William of Orange - Town Mason
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i still don't understand why shaddow was town to anyone. i was paranoid about everyone who wasn't dreal right until the end.
pedit: sorry, Wraith. i tried to call attention to how hard you were scumreading Empking but it didn't seem to matter. and my paranoia didn't help.-
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No, that was a fucking abominable fakeclaim and any town worth their salt saw through itIn post 3482, Almost Chara wrote:whoever came up with the Empking gambit (Titus?) won the game for scum.
sorry Postie. you seemed like theonlyalternative to a lynch on us so i thought there was at least a chance for a town win. maybe if we'd stayed pushing shaddowez it would have been different. Empking seemed impossible to get lynched.
~Charaimmediately.
The scum won when the two confirmed or might-as-well-be-confirmed players (dreal and Shepard) lost their fucking minds and started scumreading each other rather than the extremely obvious fakeclaims.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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Unless objections are made, I will release PTs in 24 hours or in (expired on 2017-05-11 21:30:00)
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Empking literally coasted on that claim and i hate it.
but lynching us was the 'correct' play after that hammer, of course dreal scared of being wrong would feel justified in going there. even after our townflip he still makes a point and has a case.-
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Yeah you'll see how much I sung your praises in the dead thread.In post 3489, Not Chara wrote:i still don't understand why shaddow was town to anyone. i was paranoid about everyone who wasn't dreal right until the end.
pedit: sorry, Wraith. i tried to call attention to how hard you were scumreading Empking but it didn't seem to matter. and my paranoia didn't help.
You had some disappointing inconsistencies but considering the amount of ridiculous pressure your were under I don't blame you.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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i'm certainly disappointed with my play going into the last day, i forgot things and got worked up. it just seemed impossible to bounce back from. i could tell Almost had already accepted the loss but i didn't want to.-
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Thank you so much for playing!In post 3487, nancy wrote:Good game!! T&B and AC you both played super well!! Wow!
Very sorry for getting farside modkilled. Personal apology to CK. I am glad my mistake had no other serious effects upon the game.
Wonderful game Ari!!!! Was so funny and enjoyable to spectate! (And to play while I was in there!)
Can't wait to see the full flavor list!
drealmer we shall talk in Skype!! XDXD
pedit woah woah
And I say that to all players here!
You really did make this a fun game and I'd invite any of you to play in my games again! <3
This also reminds me to release the Dead PT since it is pretty much assumed public by those who enter and I don't think it should be kept from the players who lived (or AC )
Plus, you guys will need time to read it...Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Awesome! Reading!In post 3488, Aristophanes wrote:Pine - Lady Jane Grey - Mafia Godfather
Tea and Biscuits - King William I - Town Motion Detector
The Wood Cutters - King James I - VT
Drealmerz7 - Queen Mary of Orange - Town Mason
Infinity 324 - King Edward V - Town Miller
Almost Chara - King George II - VT
Empking - Stephen Langton - Mafia Roleblocker
Wraith - Queen Anne - Town Doctor
Nancy - King Henry VIII - Town 3-shot Roleblocker
Börk Börk - Queen Elizabeth II - Town Compulsive Independence (fruit) Vendor
ThinkMomo - King Richard Lionheart - VT
PenguinPower - Oliver Cromwell - Mafia 1-shot Strongman
Prism - King William of Orange - Town Mason
Role PMs are here
Btw this setup was fucking awesome and I love the WIFOM troll XDXD
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It was impossible. Shepard and drealmerz went into D4 totally confbiased and unwilling to change no matter what. It was only a matter of time before mislynch and you'll see my descent into madness as I realize that in real time.In post 3494, Not Chara wrote:i'm certainly disappointed with my play going into the last day, i forgot things and got worked up. it just seemed impossible to bounce back from. i could tell Almost had already accepted the loss but i didn't want to.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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You've literally nothing to be disappointed in. Honestly. You lost it a bit with the T&B paranoia but under the circumstances I cannot blame you one tiny single little bit. You played great.In post 3494, Not Chara wrote:i'm certainly disappointed with my play going into the last day, i forgot things and got worked up. it just seemed impossible to bounce back from. i could tell Almost had already accepted the loss but i didn't want to.
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