That was a hammer. Not really happy that you didn't give Gamma the remaining hours he had. The Ari vote was meh, especially so close do deadline on a slot that wasn't likely to engage.
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(pronounced E-do-ist or e-DOIST? I'm not quite certain), or
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FTR, regardless of flip I think persivul probably did what the necessary thing here and was pretty of pro-town around this deadline. I'm not sure of his align, but if he is scum it wouldn't be for anything he did today imo, if that makes sense. I'd probably have waited to like the 12h mark but that's just a personality/stylistic thing I know some people are different on
A townread I'm not sure many people share now is edo, he started off slow but gradually I've seen what looks like real scumhunting from him and I'm fairly confident he's town at this point.
I really think pyra response comes from town too though I'm not sure I can explain in a way that would get anyone to share my view there
S or T flip, I'd probably look for scum between kop and aristo tomorrow with some consideration/caution for persivul
Not really happy that you didn't give Gamma the remaining hours he had.
He hasn't been on site since Saturday, so he didn't know deadline was extended. Doubtful he was coming back.
The Ari vote was meh, especially so close do deadline on a slot that wasn't likely to engage.
The point was to get him to post, and it worked. I had seen that he's in a lot of games, so his explanation is reasonable. I still don't like the ASP ISO, but Ari's lack of participation is now NAI to me. We'll see what he does tomorrow.
Shos is probably town from that midday play but as an experienced player I don't know much about, I'd re-evaluate as things go on anyways. Vedith plays a lot w/ and seems to vouch which is a plus, though idk his track record reading him
Vedith is obvtown and I can verify his approach on gamma, the things he said about him are accurate/fair from my own experience and that read had real consideration into it by my judgement. a word of caution though, I've seen town vedith lose his cool later into a game and kinda get himself mislynched, the last time I saw it happen realtime and strong townread him but still couldn't stop his lynch lol. So watch out.
You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.
You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.
I'm wondering why scum kop wouldn't just bus there, he didn't try to lynch anyone else so why not bus with a partner lynch inevitable?
He could still be scum, of course. That play around deadline definitely looks bad with gamma being scum, I'm just not sure if he would really make himself look that bad if he knew that flip was coming though, if that makes sense.
In post 411, Raskolnikov wrote:I'm wondering why scum kop wouldn't just bus there, he didn't try to lynch anyone else so why not bus with a partner lynch inevitable?
He could still be scum, of course. That play around deadline definitely looks bad with gamma being scum, I'm just not sure if he would really make himself look that bad if he knew that flip was coming though, if that makes sense.
Bussing D1 on a 2-man team is near suicidal. The simplest route is to kill from the people off the lynch wagon, and let any investigative check within the wagon. Disclaimer - I did bus D1 in a micro once, but my partner's play was incredibly bad. Gamma was just meh.
In post 411, Raskolnikov wrote:I'm wondering why scum kop wouldn't just bus there, he didn't try to lynch anyone else so why not bus with a partner lynch inevitable?
Thinking more on it, I agree with this. I was going with Kop because you said you have a TR on pyra, but pyra makes more sense. It's tougher for a newbie to decide to bus there.
In post 413, Persivul wrote:Thinking more on it, I agree with this. I was going with Kop because you said you have a TR on pyra, but pyra makes more sense. It's tougher for a newbie to decide to bus there.
I don't understand how you suggest that only a newbie busses there.
The Gamma slot was a lost cause and not voting there and tryin to go elsewhere would have put pressure on anyone.
Why do you not think that people voting earlier on the Gamma wagon voted there because they weren't expecting Gamma to be lynched? (me or Rask).
In post 417, Vedith wrote:
I don't understand how you suggest that only a newbie busses there.
I'm saying the opposite - I'm saying the newbie
doesn't
have the confidence to bus on a 2-man team. Pyra
wasn't
on the lynch.
The Gamma slot was a lost cause and not voting there and tryin to go elsewhere would have put pressure on anyone.
Why do you not think that people voting earlier on the Gamma wagon voted there because they weren't expecting Gamma to be lynched? (me or Rask).
Look at the VCs. 404 - Gamma lynched on 6.20. 339 - on 6.17, just 3 days prior, there's not a vote on gamma. The gamma wagon came together late. It's not like someone had a vote parked there from a week earlier and couldn't think of a way to get off when the wagon moved. People don't tend to make distancing votes at that point in phase.
Given how the game has gone, and how hard it's been to push anyone (other than the earlier L1 on Gamma) why do you not think that either me or Rask voted in hope to distance and aim for a NL?
As soon as votes start going there, we can't just jump off right?
I doubt that's the situation, but you seem to have bypassed it instantly ignoring everyone who voted Gamma.
Why do you think Kop is less like to avoid bussing that Pyra? Being new isn't what I'll accept for that reasoning either.
Kop gave intent to vote Gamma, but never actually done so.
In post 419, Vedith wrote:Given how the game has gone, and how hard it's been to push anyone (other than the earlier L1 on Gamma) why do you not think that either me or Rask voted in hope to distance and aim for a NL?
It's possible, but with such little time left in phase it's very risky. As you note, gamma had previously been at L-1, so you would know the support is there. Why would either of you as scum think that was a safe play? Plus, you had already done distancing with the prior L-1.
I doubt that's the situation, but you seem to have bypassed it instantly ignoring everyone who voted Gamma.
In my experience, the simple explanation, if there is one, is right more often than not.
Why do you think Kop is less like to avoid bussing that Pyra? Being new isn't what I'll accept for that reasoning either.
Kop gave intent to vote Gamma, but never actually done so.
Kop is more experienced. If you don't want to accept that reasoning - don't.
