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[Aristophanes]

VC 1.5

MarioManiac4

(2): beeboy 21, ZZZX 103

ZZZX

(2): Treblesome 65, MarioManiac4 151

beeboy

(1): Edosurist 36

Writers Bloque

(1): Sobolev Space 190

Sobolev Space

(1): Writers Bloque 192

Not Voting

(2): GinghamDog, Zulfy

D1 will end when a hammer is reached or on June 9th at 7am or in (expired on 2017-06-30 07:00:00).
With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

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[MarioManiac4]

I like a beeboy lynch. Does anyone like a beeboy lynch?

[Sobolev Space]

Sry to my fans but I don't have time to respond to WB tonight. Will do so tomorrow I pinky promise.

I spent a while looking at this. I'm pretty sure it's town

Why?

I answered this in 174. Is there something you are unclear on or want me to go in more depth about?

Beeboy, what "town things" do you think Treble has been doing?

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Writers Bloque]

GD: 160 This post is basically a POE that scum reads all the lurkers and GD isn't even that self aware about it.

Scum is more likely to be self aware about something like this, no? I know you're sorting them still, but would you be willing to lynch either JW or SS?

I like a beeboy lynch. Does anyone like a beeboy lynch?

Not really, I'd rather a different lurker to him if it came down to it.

-Narna

[Zachstralkita]

Zulfy if you get replaced im going to be mad ( ( (

[Writers Bloque]

Zulfy if you get replaced im going to be mad ( ( (

ITS NOT THERE. ITS NOT THERE

[beeboy]

I answered this in 174. Is there something you are unclear on or want me to go in more depth about?

Can you go more in depth on it? I just don't see how being non committal on scum reads could be seen as town, like that isn't mostly POE that is literally just full blown POE town reading like all the people who have any amount of posts.

Beeboy, what "town things" do you think Treble has been doing?

They are actively trying to sort people and solve the game.

[beeboy]

Scum is more likely to be self aware about something like this, no? I know you're sorting them still, but would you be willing to lynch either JW or SS?

I've pulled similar stuff as town and I was self aware about it. Like as town I just tend to look at my reads and go "something is wrong here" while as scum I just make reads and move on.

I guess I'd compromise on either of those slots, I kinda am hoping we get a Zulfy replacement and ZZZX does some stuff.

[beeboy]

I like a beeboy lynch. Does anyone like a beeboy lynch?

y tho

[Aristophanes]

*Sigh*

Prodding Zulfy

[ZZZX]

Hey guys!

Just got back from work. Will ahve to read through this!

[GinghamDog]

GD: 160 This post is basically a POE that scum reads all the lurkers and GD isn't even that self aware about it.

Read post 171 to discover that I am in fact self-aware about it.

[GinghamDog]

I'm fine lynching here.

VOTE: Edos

[GinghamDog]

@beeboy
I've explained why I TR mario.
Sobolev vs Writers seems TvT to me. I TR Sobo based on tone. Writers' pressure on me felt like town sniffing what they thought to be scum, rather than scum pushing town.
Treble I TR for similar reasons that you do.
Jason I wavered on but I want to see what his replacement does. I wouldn't be against lynching there though if nothing else is available.

[Writers Bloque]

Alright everybody, hold it down. Is anyone looking to actually play tonight? We need to find a wagon boys. Most of the votes are people voting the person that is currently voting them. The bystanders need to weigh in here. I'm not too big on the leading wagons, but I'd lynch ZZZX over MM if it came down to it.

-Narna

[Treblesome]

I mean we're the obligatory nightkill target of night 1

so basically if we're lynching a lurker we're saying hey because two people don't give a fuck about the game and weren't willing to replace out me and my hydra partner don't actually get to participate

and to call that not cool doesn't do it justice

[beeboy]

I think not lynching Edos/Zulfy now will just fuck us over harder in the long run especially if the slots town.
We aren't necessarily playing mountainous either so solid chance you won't be night killed.

If you really want I can compromise on JW because we aren't getting 5 votes on scum with 2 lurkers easily so I'll be lenient with who I vote.

[Writers Bloque]

So.

{SS}
{MM4, Gingham}
{lurkers at null}
{WB}
{JasonWazza}

reads at present.

Is this still your list

[Writers Bloque]

I'm pretty sure ZZZX is going to lurk out too, so that's basically 3 slots going dark.

-Narna

[Writers Bloque]

If we have to lynch in the lurkers my preference is Edos/ZZZX/Zulfy


- Zach

[beeboy]

I'd lynch Zulfy last cause Edos has a slightly scummy post and for the sake of compromise I'd do ZZZX.

[Edosurist]

Hey all. I apologize. I'm alive. Sorry Treblesome and others if I'm pissing you off for not posting. I'm not blaming Ari here cuz he himself was V/LA, but I expected gamestart to come sooner so I could be more active. My hood partners can attest to the fact that I was more active at the front-end of my V/LA (not that I'm asking them to out this). It's only a pseudo-excuse, and it doesn't explain the last couple of days, which was a personal catchup period from my vacation, but I just wanted to offer you all some sort of explanation. I know folks take the games more seriously than I do, but I don't mean to hinder your fun. Again, I apologize, and I'll be better from here on out.

VOTE: beeboy
CHOOCHOO

Massclaiming hoods is stupid. We should just claim them as it becomes necessary, like Wroter's Bloque has said.

Why beeboy if you're agreeing with him?

At the time I posted, I didn't realize there were two pages. From that POV, beeboy's only post said "not rvs," which I thought was a joke OMGUS vote so I followed Mario. Hopefully that explains the lack of context. That said, while I think massclaiming wasn't the right thing to do (it should just come whenever necessary), I think it's NAI (a la Gingham's 23).
I'd toss Jason (ZZZX), Writer's Bloque, and beeboy in a pool for their stances on MM.

Also, in the WB/SS interaction, I'd side with SS.

Spoiler: Interaction starting at SS's 176

It's me I am here.

I think I'll sit this out for now.

Offer an opinion of some kind or you will be sat down for a permanent length of time

Not true. Zulfy has a post saying he wasn't going to do anything at the moment. I don't think it's scummy from him.

This looks like a big change in attitude to me. I get that you weren't calling him scummy in 64 but it still seems like you've reversed your opinion on him deciding to 'sit out'. Why?

WB's responses:

Honestly I might have said that to anyone but I know him so it's even more pointless to push him over something NaI at this point to me

But I do want posting from him. Like I didn't expect not posting but it's not like he's going to remain quiet

So if we wrote our posts a certain way you wouldn't think they're fake?

Basically.. what scum is supposed to do?

Got some misrepping over here.
I'd go through SS's case on WB but that'd take too long. If you want to address me on it, basically just assume that I agree with what SS's saying. The parts I highlighted here though are the most important.

My more comfortable reads right now are:
Town: SS, Treblesome (POE based on interaction with Jason)
Lean town: MM (also POE based on Jason), Gingham (gut)
Scum: WB, ZZZX
Lean scum: beeboy
beeboy gets it less cuz he didn't lolpush MM as hard as Jason did.

VOTE: ZZZX
I'd rather vote WB, but L-2 is easier than L-3 with this much time left. I'm also a fan of two of my townreads being on ZZZX.

[Edosurist]

Actually, beeboy and WB both said they'd compromise on ZZZX, which I find shitty.

If ZZZX flips town, I'd be inclined to think Treble is scum since they were so insistent about their read on Jason.
If ZZZX flips scum, I'd say beeboy and WB are town, and SS would still be town IMO.

[Edosurist]

Btw, I had quoted this post and save it for myself earlier, so I now feel obligated to comment on it.

OK so this game is somewhere on the spectrum of death and I feel like I need to explain what I am saying about Jason because for some reason Sobolev seems to be agreeing with him and if I'm making what I am saying clear I can't think of a reason for someone to do that.

Where's SS agreeing? I think this is a typo. SS was siding with you.

"It's almost like i push for reactions, but no you have to play the game your way don't you?"- This is JasonWazza justifying his vote on me. He says he is pushing for reactions, but nowhere is there actual

pushing

for those reactions. OK, so I hadn't posted for a while when that exact post was made; but even when I

was

posting, there was no actual pushing, and there is none now. Look at 38. What do you see here? What I see is Jason disagreeing with my points. (He's arguing with premises I didn't hold, but I doubt that's actually indicative of his alignment.) But where is the pushing? How does he want me to respond to these points? Basically, he's just calling my premise stupid and using that to vote for me. I don't see any questions pushing, I see a weak justification for a vote. And he was trying to call me pushing on him for that him actually taking the initiative for actually pushing for reactions, with his vote that was meant to push for reactions. Instead, what I see there is Jason manufacturing a weak scumread on Page 2, and lingering onto that scumread because he doesn't want to push any new content. His read is stale, and although it's a "push for reactions" which is supposed to look like scumhunting, in reality, it's a substitute for scumhunting.

Going to their reaction starting at 143 (Jason/MM sorted list), I particularly find 147 to be problematic. MM asked for Jason to explain what he gathered from the reaction and Jason just dodges it and accuses MM of discrediting him.

[Writers Bloque]

Did you read all of our interactions? Even the stuff SS hasn't responded to yet? What you highlighted is just from the first few.