In post 4263, Steel wrote:As for JJ wagon again, my feelings aren't strong enough to justify defending him too much and I'd be interested in hearing more from him as well. Just I ask do not rush this as the LQ wagon was rushed yesterday and not given any time.
What may be a likely response for a person in his position if he is as disinterested in the game as he says is often a replace out, even though he said he didn't wish to earlier. In that case or if he does get more into the game as a response to the wagon, I would re-evaluate him again based on that.
this is basically what my stance was on jjh so townpoints for that
VOTE: Narna
This may sound odd, but I suspect his problems with everyones pushes are scum inspired. As though he can say the common pushes and scumreads are bad because from his view he knows they're onto town.
Though he complains about how things go he doesn't really push his alternatives much either, and when I do look at his votes I can't fathom LQ d1 vote and chickadee still seems to be on her d1 voting both sides of me and nosferatu thing.
Now that I think of it I've also had that same kind of issue with nosferatu earlier on d1.
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This doesn't feel like a genuine scumread. It could be town being unsure, kinda gutfeeling narna as scum and throwing out some reasons to vote narna cause everyone's going with it. It just feels like he's really uncomfortable moving the vote here, but why would scum!Steel feel that way about someone presumably town?
I was getting to it, I haven't yet looked at the VC and thought of the course of action for right now yet and there's still all of what's been said since I got back and I don't look forward to reading this mulch vs kaboose.
One-off things as what wake did I try to avoid reading too much into and my experience has them as rarely AI, in fact they are potentially better to ignore rather than get distracted as small things biases one away from the big picture of a player. I've not yet ISO'd wake today but my impression is he hasn't done scumhunting or shown an attempt to solve the game, and to pick on one post from one person as a slip really doesn't count as it's very minimal and entirely easy to do compared to attempting to figure out the whole game and interacting with it all. I think he said he would pick it up on d2 because he wanted to work with a flip or something but unless I missed that I don't remember seeing anything convincing from him.
this is sort of nai imo. I mean its a cop out from half the question, but I can't say that's town or scum minded.
So as I see it this game people dug into what initially seemed scummy and found out it wasn't satisfying, but don't know where to turn next. Kaboose, creature, carcalilly, realeo, and on the side the me, zachstral and nosferatu.
That said I admit I may have been wrong on lil uzi vert here, though I'm as of yet unconvinced on nosferatu too many people I townread vouch for him. I'm starting to get into day 2 just now, and by the looks of it that's still before he would have done any scumhunting post LQ flip whilst he's been here the whole time.
I would have 100% wagoned vedith now if not for his claim, and if that claim is retracted or shown to be false at any point I would think about it again. In another game I've seen him and a description that he should generally be obvtown when he is town and that's not the case here at all, a mason pt sucking up all his posting may be can explain that though. In fact vedith is not what came to my mind went to when elena claimed mason, there was another name that specifically came to mind instead.
Liquetyquickety wagon though not based on any case I don't fault kraska for, to some level it was somewhat righteous and even my townreading him the logic was essentially too bold to be scum which is akin to too scummy be to be scum. However the wagon came rather easily for one not based on any case, and I don't see all much reason for LQ vs narna wagons to be that one sided for narna's ISO. JJh overall looks somewhat similar to LQ in the overtly disinterested but still popping in and d1 voting, though I townread him for something earlier that day and maybe if not for that I would be interpreting him the other way today.
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2. sounds towny to me
3. sounds eh to m
4. i keep glazing over while trying to read
