17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]

[Bulbazak]

Which faction is the most interested in getting cocaine?

You're the one who just said you didn't doubt she has a pr. Don't lose the thread please.

A lot of people are going "Well, Bins soft claimed a PR, so we can't possibly lynch her.", and my point is that regardless if she's a PR or not, how she claimed and the reason she claimed is highly suspect, and she could have easily done that as a scum PR or a goon. Essentially it boils down to "I have a role. Give me lots of cocaine please.". That's either anti-town or incredibly scum-sided, and either way, I'm not using it to clear Bins. Point of fact, that was one of the reasons I suspected her in the first place.

[Cephrir]

are a lot of people saying that? i heard maybe 1 or 2 people say that. i just don't especially think she's scum.

[Cephrir]

anti-town

eh, not necessarily.

[Bins]

i thought my claim was pretty obvious on what i am tbh

i doubt theres actually a town mechanic that allows giving of cocaine so i never really meant it super seriously in that sense. would be cool tho and even tho i doubt ppl trust me it would be beneficial to town

[Bins]

unless scum have a way to steal coke from a targeted person then no dont give it to me but i didnt think of that at the time

[Wickedestjr]

I'm voting xyzzy but I would also still be interested in voting Elli and Dan. Bulbazak, how do you feel about Elli? Besides me, he might have the most support.

[WhemeStar]

There are like 15 cards

Is there one about ate cause I thought I've seen you use that one before

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: grapes

[Bulbazak]

are a lot of people saying that? i heard maybe 1 or 2 people say that. i just don't especially think she's scum.

It's the most common reason given for why someone doesn't want to vote Bins.

I'm voting xyzzy but I would also still be interested in voting Elli and Dan. Bulbazak, how do you feel about Elli? Besides me, he might have the most support.

I'd be willing to, but I don't necessarily have a strong read. Like, if we were talking about a spectrum of null, he'd be slightly on the scum side and you'd be slightly on the town side, but it's not really strong one way or the other.

[Wickedestjr]

Okay. Fwiw, I really don't want to have to claim today. But I probably will have to very soon if things don't improve.

Unvote. Vote: Ellibereth

WhemeStar, you should join us

[Spiffeh]

Guys I am here to catch up and save the day

[Spiffeh]

It's really gross that Desperado is absent for most of the game and comes in to comment on like the fringiest and most irrelevant shit

[Spiffeh]

Omg it took me forever to figure out who the fuck "Jester" was

[Desperado]

vote: elli

there is absolutely no depth to anything elli has posted so far...i'm scum because i posted in another game without posting in this one, wicked is scum because he didn't post thoughts prior to catching up?? or something, it's not really clear

the rest of his iso is shit posting, which taken in conjunction with his "wahhhh site meta lets scum lurk now!" lamentation is pretty damn scummy

@ hito fair enough. you said elli is off the table today but i wasn't really following why. because chesskid said so???

@ bulb null scum at deadline sounds like plenty to me. vote elli.

@ ginn i think your bins case is well crafted and i like that i can see the town levers pulling in your brain, i just don't think any of that makes bins scum. join me on elli

@ chess why is elli not an option today again?

[Desperado]

VOTE: grapes

wheme

this vote is appalling

if you think bins is town and you've already voted elli there's not a single reason for this vote to exist right now

[Desperado]

It's really gross that Desperado is absent for most of the game and comes in to comment on like the fringiest and most irrelevant shit

hi

we've already been over all of this stuff you vaguely passed over here in detail

so add something new or take your shade and shove it up your ass

[Desperado]

alternatively, be specific about what fringey and irrelevant shit i commented on and what that means w/r/t my alignment

[Spiffeh]

Nah I'll keep my shade right where it's at

[Spiffeh]

I don't have a read on Elli. Ginngie and Desp I expect to pick up the pace if town, and I think I should be able to read them both better by the end of d2. UT has been replaced by Wicked, so I'm not interested in that. And Xyzzy is actually my strongest scumread, but we're getting close to deadline, and that wagon wasn't going anywhere. As for Bins, I'm getting a sense of artificiality from the slot. Her thinking just doesn't seem to mesh from a town perspective, and she's trying too hard to appear town. Things just aren't adding up there. Granted, she's not my strongest scum read, but she's definitely not a town read.

I appreciate you actually answering this

In my catch up I agree that earlier on it seemed like Bins was fabricating nonchalance about her wagon and just saying a lot of things that would make her sound unphased about the wagon on her

But recently I feel like she's just shaking off early game "wtf is going on" and seems to be assessing the motivations of everyone on her wagon which makes me feel good about her

I also kind of doubt that she softclaims that role so early as scum, but I don't really have a baseline to back that up

[Bulbazak]

@ bulb null scum at deadline sounds like plenty to me. vote elli.

Prior to Wicked jumping ship, my strongest scum read was actually gaining traction as a wagon. I'd like to get that if possible.

[Desperado]

i'll help you with him tomorrow, pinky promise

[Bulbazak]

How can I say no to that face?

Unvote
Vote Ellibereth

[Spiffeh]

alternatively, be specific about what fringey and irrelevant shit i commented on and what that means w/r/t my alignment

I feel like you're picking fights that come out of left field and ultimately don't translate into anything productive

You took issue with chesskid calling Whemestar obvtown and perpetuated the point with

now i'm kind of confused

is he obvtown or is he not scum?

when it should be abundantly clear what he means. It looks like you're trying to make him look bad instead actually pursuing something that caught your attention.

And then you call Ginngie out for not explaining her vote, which is fair I guess?? But it's not something you took very far and looks as if you're confronting someone to look like you're doing something

Later on, your engagement with hito seems reactionary to him calling you out about being useless, and it seems like you're trying to catch him out on saying something contradictory rather than explain if there's scum motivation behind your problems with his Kagami read. Why does his inability to articulate what looks like a gut read make him more likely to be scum (I'm assuming that's why you're going so hard after it)? There are other people that are putting a ton of stock into someone being town that they haven't adequately explained (chesskid w/ Ellibereth, for example), so why do you specifically have a problem with hito doing it?

[Cephrir]

when it should be abundantly clear what he means. It looks like you're trying to make him look bad instead actually pursuing something that caught your attention.

i know im butting in but i just dont think this (specific instance) is something anyone does intentionally

[Spiffeh]

Jester, if you've been following along, don't you have thoughts to share prior to a full catchup?

Jester, if you've been following along, don't you have thoughts to share prior to a full catchup?

Jester, if you've been following along, don't you have thoughts to share prior to a full catchup?

Jester, if you've been following along, don't you have thoughts to share prior to a full catchup?

Jester, if you've been following along, don't you have thoughts to share prior to a full catchup?

Who's obvscum and who's obvtown.
Before and after you caught up.

Ellibereth acting so concerned about Wick not catching up when he literally had claimed to be busy that day is literally the definition of fluff posting, especially since Elli has done NOTHING to contribute to the game in any meaningful way