17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]

[Cephrir]

buys 4* days with cephy wanting to check for multishot

if the first shot happens, obviously we're not lynching him

this is pretty basic

[Cephrir]

Ok Ceph I'm a Night 10 vig make sure you let me live until then thanks

that is very analogous

[Cephrir]

not sure what firebringer has to do with the price of tea in china but ok sure

[Ellibereth]

buys 4* days with cephy wanting to check for multishot

if the first shot happens, obviously we're not lynching him

this is pretty basic

you wut mate
didn't you also give scum extra kill power in the make babies game.

[Spiffeh]

Spiff, you're not getting the votes to lynch a claimed vig 16 hours before deadline, it's a pipe dream.

There isn't any singular reason to townread Elli and you know that.

For real, you just said their entire behavior was NAI, and considering an entire day went by, that is AI

Uh the wagons are like the same size so yes I do think it's very possible to get the votes to lynch a claimed vig

Elli is a policy lynch and nothing more. Which is fine if not for the fact my largest scum read at the moment is the other option. So yeah I'd prefer if Wick was lynched sorry.

[Ellibereth]

whatever
wick is 100% scum

wheme and fire I have faith in you guys

[Cephrir]

i did

i don't think it's particularly common, and it was one-shot

[Ginngie]

ya'll smoking crack

[Cephrir]

does UT ever lose interest with a vig role?

:/

[Kagami]

Ceph, here's the thing.

I'm a pretty weak PR, but my role does give me some insight into some of the mechanics of the setup.

An Even-night vig could be very elegantly implemented in a way that is very slightly weaker, but would be highly thematic and ties into a central mechanic. I was wondering if wicked was holding something back, but given the flavor, he's not. I think it's pretty unlikely that FG would have ignored this and created a straight-up even-night vig.

[Ellibereth]

Dan
Wick
Bins
Desperado
Reck
xyzzy

scum are in this list
this game isn't hard

[hitogoroshi]

So it's really unlikely there's just an "even-night vigilante" in this game, because kill priority is such a important aspect of the setup, and something needs to be defined if the mafia and the vig kill the same target. I would think that the vig would have it's speed w/r/t the mafia's kill speed defined one way or the other in the role title. And if it's just an "even-night vig", I think it's outrageous that he wouldn't ask Fakegod directly about the interactions of the speeds.

It also makes zero sense that Gustavo "Off-key" Lopez the street musician is murdering people, but plenty of sense that Gustavo "Off-key" Lopez is the flavor fakeclaim he had and Wicked post-hoc used his flavor and wrote a claim that lets him stall.

And of course it's totally unnerving how Wicked has made absolutely zero attempt to sort town vs scum on his wagon as this has all gone on.

I don't care about waiting for the vig because it doesn't exist

[Cephrir]

Ceph, here's the thing.

I'm a pretty weak PR, but my role does give me some insight into some of the mechanics of the setup.

An Even-night vig could be very elegantly implemented in a way that is very slightly weaker, but would be highly thematic and ties into a central mechanic. I was wondering if wicked was holding something back, but given the flavor, he's not. I think it's pretty unlikely that FG would have ignored this and created a straight-up even-night vig.

Now you sound like the Kagami I know.

That's interesting.

[Spiffeh]

does UT ever lose interest with a vig role?

:/

Hey good point

Come vote Wick

[Cephrir]

It also makes zero sense that Gustavo "Off-key" Lopez the street musician is murdering people, but plenty of sense that Gustavo "Off-key" Lopez is the flavor fakeclaim he had and Wicked post-hoc used his flavor and wrote a claim that lets him stall.

I do want to know why that guy is a vig.

[Cephrir]

UNVOTE:

I'll just go to the corner and sit down for a little while.

[Bins]

same


also chess i claimed before i was even scumread


anyways

[Bulbazak]

Let's not forget that UT was Wick's predecessor and he collectively had the scummiest posts itg before he replaced out!

I found them kinda meh myself. Not really scummy. It was a solidly null slot.

Why is bins not happening? Elli wagon is stupid. Makes me really suspect too

Because you lot dissolved the Bins wagon by going after the shiny Wicked wagon.

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Yeah, scum's not doing that thing that scum obviously want to do. Chess, you're a riot. 2 claimed roles that likely accumulate cocaine? If they're both town, they're dead in a matter of days.

I'm interested in whether firebringer and bulb feel similarly to the way I do about this claim.

Even night vig? Seems unusual limitation-wise. However, I can see a vig existing as a means to counter the scum team's gameplan. By claiming, though, Wicked has essentially limited his usefulness, but that's neither here nor there, since there were several players pushing that slot to claim earlier than was necessary.

Elli is a policy lynch and nothing more.

Dude! You're not supposed to be sampling the product!

[Bulbazak]

Wicked is less useful now, if town.

[hitogoroshi]

Ceph, here's the thing.

I'm a pretty weak PR, but my role does give me some insight into some of the mechanics of the setup.

An Even-night vig could be very elegantly implemented in a way that is very slightly weaker, but would be highly thematic and ties into a central mechanic. I was wondering if wicked was holding something back, but given the flavor, he's not. I think it's pretty unlikely that FG would have ignored this and created a straight-up even-night vig.

oh yeah also now I can say: Kagami's softlcaim is most of where my initial flip to townread came from, because it was done in a really convincing way. what made it convincing I will still not go in to detail on, but there are good softclaims and bad softclaims and Kagami's was great. (Kagami has thrown a lot of non-role townie brownies since then.) that is also part of why I was so put off by despse's probing initially

[Cephrir]

I had no idea kagami softclaimed anything, so I guess it was pretty good

[Ellibereth]

i thought andy was the one who softclaimed lmao

[Spiffeh]

All Wick has done is post his initial reads list and whine about people scum reading him for play style reasons

There's been no effort to sort any of the ~8-10 people in his null category and he's resorted to AtE instead

Kagami and hit have explained pretty well why an Even Night Vig role doesn't exist

Ut was scummy and I doubt (although not certain) that he would replace out if he was a vig

[Cephrir]

i thought andy was the one who softclaimed lmao

that one i think i did see, but i have no idea what it means.

[Spiffeh]

I'm officially activating tunnel mode