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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:20 am

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In post 399, TwoInAMillion wrote:I have yet to be scum. I am 4-2 as town.
At this point the conversation is already finished, people had moved on and you still come back in and bring up a completely unrelated point hoping people will talk about your win rate?

You are making it very difficult to believe that you want to be constructive. Instead, it looks to me like you're simply arguing for the sake of your ego. I'm not going to tolerate any more of this. Drop it or get out.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:09 am

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Yall are blowing 2mill's stubbornness out of proportion. He's been polite. At least he isn't sitting on a guilty in lylo. Let's unpack that for now. Example: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:13 pm

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Axle's walls are so scummy, I can't stomach to read them.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:05 am

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I can't understand Axle's walls well enough to read them.

But almost every Transcend post screams of scum.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:21 am

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Uhmmm

I tried in the scum PT and like couldn't.

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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:18 am

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Fireworks Mafia: whoever throws the hardest burns the brightest
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:19 am

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The scumteam is asleep at the wheel.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:27 am

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^They are. Trans and Axle are both online to quickhammer, and so is Whiskers, but Whiskers isn't checking into the scum PT so that they all know all of them are online.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:52 pm

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UNVOTE: UNVOTE: UNVOTE: Town has a pulse.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:16 am

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I haven't been able to read an axle post in the last hundred pages. A couple of convoluted syntax sentences in and my eyes start crossing.

Did he ever answer the question about whether or not English is his primary language >_> <_<
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:07 am

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I never ask that unless it is important I understand them.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:16 am

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I thought he was purposely obfuscating his posts a bit. It seems to be working considering Nero still hasn't noticed Axle claiming vt.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:50 am

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It would appear that Nero has green checked axle

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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:03 pm

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It's official

2mill > Nero Cain
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:02 pm

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I have no clue what's going on with Nero. He thinks it's a 3-15, claiming there's no other PRs with everyone else being VTs, but not only did he get a positive motion result on Axle, he's not factoring his own power into the equation either. If there's not going to be any more town power floating around, what is the positive result supposed to be?

I think he might have legit forgot his role. He didn't send an action last night.
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:05 pm

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I guess he may just think there's a very high amount of scum power and that the result he got N3 was Axle being targeted with a scum role, not the other way around. That's the only other thing I can think of that'd make his actions consistent.

It's sorta funny, I had an "oh god" moment a few days ago and wondered if I had sent him a negative result on accident. Fortunately, it's nothing like that.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:01 pm

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In post 413, Smocaine wrote:It's official

2mill > Nero Cain
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:52 pm

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I might have to put that on my sig after the game is over:P.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:21 pm

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please do, I'm dying to be sigged. Also, Nero's play should be banworthy
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:21 pm

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blatant gting
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:38 am

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Post # get

418+419 were sarcastic, but still :(
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:11 am

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Apparently sorting Trans and letting Scum's arguments roll off of you is trolling.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:24 am

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Aw man, watching this was a lot of fun.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:34 am

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@Quick Regfan responded to this in what I think is the most helpful way possible.
In post 13, Quick wrote:1336 wasn't received very well, why not?
Spoiler: Quote for truth
In post 16, Regfan wrote:
In post 13, Quick wrote:1336 wasn't received very well, why not?
Most people didn't comment on it at all, players that hyperpost very regularly have some of their good posts ignored because people just assume that everything they post is irrelevant and treat them as someone that isn't likely to help them gamesolve. I'd also say it's probably best when making posts like that one if you go into it a little more with links to what you're talking about; show people what you're talking about a little more.
In post 15, Quick wrote:Also @regfan, did it come across like I wasn't making sense at all?
At times yes, felt like you were all over the place and it was very hard to follow what you were doing. Still think you were fairly obviously town but I think it hit the stage where the players that'd have noticed that couldn't keep up with the game / aren't super motived right now and there was a handful of players that just didn't care if you lived or not.


I however was playing the game and while i was scum, I too had to be reading and working the game out.

Here are some comments about why even when you do everything right that regfan suggests then with some people that post may still not get traction. So your goal endpoint in following the advice in the spoiler its to get more traction with your pushes than you have in the past.
In post 1136, Quick wrote:First, the fact that they are not questioning the double day thing
I also wasn't, I expect would not have as a towny in any game ever. CABD is CABD, CABD is not dunker, Nero, or Axle.
CABD had made all and sufficient noises that (town)I was sure that CABD would deliver more later in the day as time made appropriate. AND at that point we would judge the town utility of his play. The spoiler in this post viewtopic.php?p=9674276#p9674276 both informed CABD he would be held accountable (A thing I knew he already knew "
No shit sherlock
") It also made sure he was aware of making good use of it by letting us know about stuff about how the day would unfold so as townies we could make our plays at getting reads unfold faster or slower as required, to meet his timetable for the vig shot. There was in fact enough info in the thread to be reasonably sure CABD was day vig and one that would PM his shot. (but i missed the last bit)

So no matter how good your post is structured and how much it does not get ignored (as in nestles amongst the many other post you make) Some times other people have worked out stuff about the game that you have not.
In post 1136, Quick wrote:Second, they said they wanted to PL me when they haven't even played with me bofore
Um.
If they wanted to PL you for how you had played in previous game, but only because it had been with them (that would be pretty shit)
If I want to Pl a player I tend to just give them super sekrit scum points. I might also do it on the basis of having read their previous games. It has nothing to do with personal vengeance. It has to do with does this person have above or below average utility to town if they are indeed town.
If someone is small loss to town, if they flip and someone else is player scum may wind up deciding they really want to NK, then there is likely super sekrit scum town points.

Another way to think about that is why do specifically not vote people D1? (this is kind people who I am anti policy lynching...)
Two reasons: One me going straight at them is never going to work.

Two in general i do that with people i can trust to play in such way that:
without me cracking a whip (pressure voting)
the way they choose to play, is transparent, lets me see their towny intent. True they are also possibly quite good at faking that. But me actually giving them a lot of rope (slow dancing) is harder thing for them to fake as they are playing without me constantly niggling this way and that and this not providing feedback on what i am seeing.

Your third point.
In post 1136, Quick wrote:Third, they are more concerned with defending themselves than pushing their Scum reads. You can see this in the tone and language that they use. Its just off and doesn't ring like they are innocent.
Truth: I probably read the first two and glazed over?
But that one might well have substance and teeth. I am not actually sure. It does mirror my case on whiskers and when i wrote that i believed it.
I dunno what I believe anymore. I legit tried (wanted to) to write better case on more of whiskers ISO and was failing.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:37 am

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In post 414, pienyan wrote:but not only did he get a positive motion result on Axle,
WAT!!!!!!!!!!!

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