Team Mafia 2018: White Flag — Day Six

[wgeurts]

Not liking how nsg solely focuses on the postie responses and that feels solid enough to go off of.

Would also like to know whose teammates are reading this game and whose are likely to give input d1

Espeonage is following this one I'm fairly certain, in general we are trying to aid each other in all games. If you would like T-Bone or Aneninen to chip-in on whatever don't hesitate to ask.

[wgeurts]

Honestly is a word probably more used by scum, at least when it looks like that.
And yeah, I think scum might have their eyes on the start time a bit more particularly since we didn't have to confirm roles.
That's probably significant enough for us to prefer a lynch on one of the first-hour posters.
I don't like "where's all the spam" either. Noise is scummy (eventually).
F...first has scummy cadence too. Did we ever calculate whether ellipses are just a scumtell? Doesn't matter.
Hypemention is minor towntell but not enough to avoid lynch.

I didn't like Marquis' first couple posts either; I forgot about that.

I'm sorry, but I really don't follow.

[wgeurts]

Alright, I'm caught up. I'm not particulary town-reading anyone right now, though I could see Llama and N potentially being it. Want to see their reactions first.

Not all too thrilled by Marquis posts as off yet, though he could well be town yet to get properly into the game. I'm not sure, but I'm going to place my vote there for now until I get more content from him. May move if Llama or N don't explain themselves somewhat better.

VOTE: Marquis

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

No sextuple posts, please, this is the civilised game.

Other rules include: no swearing, no policy lynches until D2, no talking about who you want to lynch and you can't repeat a question if it gets ignored the first time.

Pedit: heptuple*

[wgeurts]

No sextuple posts, please, this is the civilised game.

Other rules include: no swearing, no policy lynches until D2, no talking about who you want to lynch and you can't repeat a question if it gets ignored the first time.

Pedit: heptuple*

Yeah sorry, I'll condence my catch-ups into longer posts in the future. Don't worry though, I'm not a spam-poster and you won't see me flinging one-liners around non-stop. Also what's wrong about repeating a question?

[Tchill13]

Hey guys I'll do a proper catch up later today.

[MathBlade]

MOD NOTES

Sauce and momo are swapping their respective games.

Votecount 1.3

Marquis(4)

~ Dunnstral, Llamarble, Postie, wgeurts

Llamarble(2)

~ northsidegal, Cogito Ergo Sum

Thestatusquo(1)

~ Lycanfire

Postie(1)

~ ActionDan

northsidegal(1)

~ Marquis


Not Voting (6): Gamma Emerald, Tchill13, EddieFenix, Thestatusquo, LicketyQuickety, Sauce

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-04 21:00:00)

[Thestatusquo]

i didn't believe that he really found something, hence my saying that his entrance was forced (kind of like how your questions feel).

Okay, and the scum motivation behind him lying about having found something is what?

he forces a read to a) pretend like he's generating useful content and b) stagnate things by ending rvs early. moreover, i think in general a forced entrance like that is just more likely to come from self-conscious scum than from town. that's not to say that i believe that he's necessarily scum or that any of those were necessarily his strategy – just that i think it's likely enough to warrant moving my vote while we're still in rvs.

Hey guys! Back from out of town and stuff.

Don't like this post. In general, town is best served by existing the RVS as quickly as possible. So often times town pushes in RVS ARE ridiculous on face and ARE forced. I would expect a town player who is earnestly attempting to create information to read much the same as a scum player who is trying to "fake it" because definitionally we have no information to attack.

On the other hand, I find scum to have an incentive to hide in RVS and use it to be non-accountable for their actions therein. Like, for instance, saying things like "while we're still in RVS" as justification for a vote.

@lla – if i was scum i definitely would have lurked out the beginning of the game – activity is probably, for the most part, meaningless (so is everything else you mentioned).

Wifom self meta ahoyhoy.

So, VOTE: Northsidegal

[Gamma Emerald]

tfw you find out MB is a Lindsey Stirling fan

reading up now

[Thestatusquo]

re: the postive llamarble stuff I think posties "accommodating" stuff has more to do with their personality than with their alignment. Also, could be wrong but would be surprised if postie took a scum pm.

[Gamma Emerald]

Reads:
Llamarble somewhat misguided town, his scumread on Postie is p silly, but I feel like he's right on the money with Marqius, could also be right about Dunnstral's vote on Marquis being a bus
VOTE: Marquis

[Sauce]

Here ye! Here ye, scummy folk!

You are hopelessly outnumbered and surrounded from all directions you might have attempted to escape to before we tightened the line upon the arrival of two of our extra ships.
There's been a change of plans, WE COME IN PEACE!

I am Captain Sauce of the flagship Sauciety.
I was able to persuade my predecessor to show mercy, and as a sign of good faith in the erudition of your diplomats I have taken control; confident that he won't regret having forfeited the glory of leading the attack which no doubt would've resulted in your total annihilation.
Instead, and because I recognize the potential of a submissive and obedient workforce, so that we may redirect our attention to more challenging fronts of the campaign I am extending the following proposal to you:
GIVE UP!

• You will be held and remembered in high regard. Mothers will name children after you. Tales of your make-believe bravery will be propagated using advanced image projection technology.
  • We are not responsible if some interpretations adopt a ridiculing attitude, for we are civilized, and do not impose censorship.
• Your progeny will have a chance of genetically mixing with ours
  • if they meet certain standards of physical appeal and intelligence, the definition of which we reserve the right to redefine ad libitum & depending on our libido.
• You will have your own government
  • albeit a puppet government; so you can feel united socializing about its incompetence and intrigue
• Your supermarkets will have a cornucopia of stuff you can buy...
  • You won't have everything you need, but we are good at making people want a lot of things, and we're not going to deny you some of them.
    You will not have access to the manufacturing of the money nor transparency as to how much there is and how much anything is worth
• ... with your own currency
  • Dictating its course and value compared to ours will prove to be a fun game for our computers.
• We'll help you establish a flourishing culture
  • Who will help you establish a flourishing culture? WE DO! Whether you'll like or not.

You have until the decimation to 33% of your military to comply.

[Thestatusquo]

VOTE: sauce

policy.

[Thestatusquo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: northsidegal

ok, on with our lives.

[Sauce]

No sextuple posts, please, this is the civilised game.

Other rules include: no swearing, no policy lynches until D2, no talking about who you want to lynch and you can't repeat a question if it gets ignored the first time.

Pedit: heptuple*

Exactly. I like this one, then again.. Hey, wanna hear a good joke?
What did the barbarian in civilization's clothing explain to the civilized what civilization was?

If he is scum we'll lose unless I can out-civilize him.

[Sauce]

EBWOP:

what civilization was, while staging a conflict with his fellow barbarian

VOTE: wgeurts

[LicketyQuickety]

Getting caught up.

[LicketyQuickety]

Postie (Team Cuddly)

wgeurts (Young and Beautiful)
Lycanfire (eddie cane)
Llamarble (DEFCON)
Gamma Emerald (Relaxed Nature)
Cogito Ergo Sum (God Save the Black Goo)
Marquis (Make Papa Proud)
Tchill13 (Chillplay Bombahskiies)
EddieFenix (Queue Agents)
ActionDan (Who is John Galt?)
Thestatusquo (Dandy Irate Hoes brought to you by MATI energy)
Dunnstral (Backhanded Remarks)
LicketyQuickety (Spam Squad)
momo (Sauciety)

northsidegal (Serious Business)

rn

This shows your bias towards how you generally see these players in relation to what alignment they could be and nothing more. That said, you are all over the place and I can see where this would come from Scum trying to WIFOM Town into oblivion.

[LicketyQuickety]

Not liking how nsg solely focuses on the postie responses and that feels solid enough to go off of.

Would also like to know whose teammates are reading this game and whose are likely to give input d1

so you think that i'm both tryharding and that i'm trying to coast by solely focusing on questions?
don't you think it's a little early in the game to be saying that, especially given that like four people have posted so far?

not sure if all of my teammates will be reading this game but i know a few will and will probably share their thoughts with me.

Put it this way:
If you believe Llamarble hasn't found anything and is fishing for reactions, it makes sense to help him out by voting me or pretending you know what it is or even just staying quiet and letting things play out.
If you believe Llamarable really believes they've found something obvscummy, the logical thing to do is to ask what it is, in case it actually is something that makes sense.
You did neither or these things and instead instantly assumed he couldn't have found anything and attacked him for it. In what world does that make sense? In one where you know he can't have a good reason, because you know I'm town.

what difference does it make between helping him out with his pressure on you and voting him to put pressure on him? there's nothing to say that following him is the "logical" thing to do rather than pressuing him. i assumed he didn't have anything because, looking over your posts myself, there really wasn't anything there that could reasonably be interpreted as a scumslip. sure,

maybe

being the first to the thread opening could be interpreted that way, but i put more weight into awkward rvses being scum indicative than that tell anyways.

this is really forced.

So are these TRs or SRs of these players?

[LicketyQuickety]

Would also like to know whose teammates are reading this game and whose are likely to give input d1

Also bumping this

Given I am the captain of our team, thinking about what this means, it means we are fairly disorganized. IDK what of my teammates are reading this game or not.

[LicketyQuickety]

For the record nsg is scum-tryharding as opposed to postie town-tryharding. The difference is in the reactiveness (?) or general gist of that

NSG looks like NSG here. What you'd call scum-tryharding I'd call NAI. But I 100% disagree with your postie assessment and think as NSG as said, it comes off as forced. "forced" really isn't doing it justice actually, it's more like a cross-examination that where any one line of inquiry splits into two arbitrarily ad nauseam.

I like this post here by Dan.

[LicketyQuickety]

I wonder if we win by lynching EddieFenix and Marquis and Postie. Wouldn't be surprised.

Worst post of the thread so far.

What is the point of this post at all?

[Thestatusquo]

I wonder if we win by lynching EddieFenix and Marquis and Postie. Wouldn't be surprised.

Worst post of the thread so far.

What is the point of this post at all?

Having played a lot with llamarble face to face that kind of hypothetical early game sort scum team spec is not terribly out of character from him as either alignment (and I suspect is more likely to come from town.)

[LicketyQuickety]

i didn't believe that he really found something, hence my saying that his entrance was forced (kind of like how your questions feel).

Okay, and the scum motivation behind him lying about having found something is what?

he forces a read to a) pretend like he's generating useful content and b) stagnate things by ending rvs early. moreover, i think in general a forced entrance like that is just more likely to come from self-conscious scum than from town. that's not to say that i believe that he's necessarily scum or that any of those were necessarily his strategy – just that i think it's likely enough to warrant moving my vote while we're still in rvs.

Alright, I'm not convinced this is a scum post as you are still relatively new to the site and thus, the game. Care to talk some things through with me?

Why would Llama want to attract so much attention so early on as you've mentioned? As scum it could be a really bad play in an attempt to draw suspicion on Postie, Llamarble knows whoever he'd have to play this perfectly as to not risk it backfiring. A very dodgy move as scum unless he's intentionally trying to have people think he can't be scum for that exact reason. As town, it could be an attempt to get this moving and test reactions, or he could legitmately have a reason to suspect Postie right now. For these reasons I don't particulary lean either way on thiese actions of his, though gun to head I'd say town.

This brings me to my next point.

How is generating content stagnating the game. The RVS is named that, because it's, well, random. Random votes don't generate alignment-indicative content, anything moving away from the RVS is something that is generating content from which we can try to guess people's alignments. I don't really think your second point holds up, do you see what I mean?

This seems pretty flat to me...

Anyone else think so?

[LicketyQuickety]

OK, I am caught up, feel free to fire questions at me.