Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Ether]

Day 1, Votecount 24

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I'd take a week's V/LA for you
Write a sweet serenade for you
I'd shoot the breeze every day with you
Goddamn, I wanted to play with you
Oh, I would go through so much pain
Join a hundred and two page game
If just to be with you, baby
But you still need to claim

-[

Grenade,

Bruno Mars

]

3 Cabd (Spiffeh, Transcend, Toranaga)
3 Transcend (Chara, Ginngie, Mulch)
3 UnaBombaH (Cheetory6, implosion, Kmd4390)
2 Kmd4390 (Patrick, UnaBombaH)
1 Mulch (Kagami)
1 Spiffeh (Firebringer)

2 Unvote (Aristophanes, Cabd)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-05 00:00:00), on Sunday, February 4 at 11:59 pm EST.

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[Transcend]

Ok but why have two shitwagons popped up instead of boosting up cabds

[Transcend]

Egg maybe scum

Guess i have to read him in isolation

[Aristophanes]

Ok but why have two shitwagons popped up instead of boosting up cabds

Why is Cabd scum?

[UnaBombaH]

Ok but why have two shitwagons popped up instead of boosting up cabds

Why is Cabd scum?

Why on earth am I scum?

[Kmd4390]

Ok but why have two shitwagons popped up instead of boosting up cabds

I don't think anyone has posted a good reason for cabd to be scum. Did I miss that? Like policy lynching him makes no sense. His reach out to Kagami was fine. I just don't see anything that screams scum.

[UnaBombaH]

Your OMGUS is showing with your comments at both cheer and myself and then your vote.

I would never think "you suck" about players who are more experienced and sound players than I might ever be.

My comments towards you and "cheer" (cheetory?) are based solely on your posts/actions in the game.
I do not think you suck, I think your actions might have scummy motivations.

[Transcend]

I'm confident at least one scum But probably only one scum is lynching me

Chara gives dem pings but I'm just gonna trust my peeps

Mulch is absolutely hard turbo scum

... in a world where mulch is town, ginngie is 100% capitalizing on my mistake and pushing me to get lynched Because No offense but I'm tougher for scum to lynch than mulch.

And no one has capitalized on their mistakes except for tor the obvtown

Scum would love me to get close to rope.

Anyways, I'll be pretty done if all 3 on my lynch are town.

[Spiffeh]

The only compelling reason for lynching anyone has been a post about Cabd lmao

[UnaBombaH]

I for one don't think cabd is scum. But I haven't seen much of a towntell from him either.

Like previously stated - I'm having trouble sorting Ginngie and Cabd (especially). Kagami to some degree, but I think they're town.
Almost everyone else I'd be willing to toss into a sorting basket, and I wouldn't feel too bad about it later.

[UnaBombaH]

Also: WHY is Aristophanes town?
I'd bet his role-pm isn't similar to the color of his name..

[Kmd4390]

Your OMGUS is showing with your comments at both cheer and myself and then your vote.

I would never think "you suck" about players who are more experienced and sound players than I might ever be.

My comments towards you and "cheer" (cheetory?) are based solely on your posts/actions in the game.
I do not think you suck, I think your actions might have scummy motivations.

Yeah that was cheet. Auto correct sucks. But yeah Mathdino says OMGUS is something town-you does and it seems like your reads are based entirely on that despite what you say. I'll reluctantly:

Unvote, Vote Transcend

He wants me to vote mulch but that would be purely policy for me and I don't at all love that idea.

From Mathdino, paraphrased:
Una
- Drop your Aris scum read. He would never pick a scum role. However, you pushing this does show that you are town.
-team mafia is town sided. Mulch's play takes away from that because people not in the game won't bother to keep up. Saying town loses if we mislynch mulch is BS. What are your thoughts on mulch vs transcend?
- you're probably right about scum hiding in the chaos. Lynch either a spammer or a lurker.
-youre being scum read for being awkward and uncharismatic and not seeming to care who the Lynch is.
-this slot is backed by our reads and meta knowledge and you'll be able to tell if it's a scum slot by our accuracy.

[Kagami]

Cabd, are you around?

[Kagami]

Spiff, you're deliberately shying away from using Team Mafia meta.

[Spiffeh]

Why do you think that?

[Kagami]

Because you have too few townreads, and are living in a world of nullness where nullness shouldn't exist.

[Spiffeh]

Cheetory and implosion are people I expected to be town based on their team composition and their gameplay so far has confirmed that for me

In a similar way I thought both you and Aristophanes (Aristophanes more so) would be town based on your team compositions but your play so far has not convinced me of it.

I think it's stupid to completely write people off just based on the nature of Team Mafia but it's fine as a starting point.

Who are your town reads then, based on Team Mafia meta?

[Spiffeh]

The rest of the teams and players I don't know well enough to make a conclusion on what role they would fill one way or another

[UnaBombaH]

From Mathdino, paraphrased:
Una
- Drop your Aris scum read. He would never pick a scum role. However, you pushing this does show that you are town.
-team mafia is town sided. Mulch's play takes away from that because people not in the game won't bother to keep up. Saying town loses if we mislynch mulch is BS. What are your thoughts on mulch vs transcend?
- you're probably right about scum hiding in the chaos. Lynch either a spammer or a lurker.
-youre being scum read for being awkward and uncharismatic and not seeming to care who the Lynch is.
-this slot is backed by our reads and meta knowledge and you'll be able to tell if it's a scum slot by our accuracy.

From UnaBombaH to Mathdino, not paraphrased:

- I won't drop MY Aris scumread, because it wasn't mine to begin with. I do however, agree with my teammates that he would fit his scumplay here very well. I would also like it if others pushed him too - last time he was scum he got off so very easily that it made me sick to watch them win that game.
- mulch's play hasn't been pro-town, at least not very much of it. I'm also NOT saying town loses if we mislynch him - I said that the one time he WASN'T MISLYNCHED, town won. Please don't go twisting my words. I'll hold my thoughts on mulch vs Trans until I have thought about my gameplan here.
- scum is hiding in the chaos - lynch lurker/spammer - can actually agree on this. Aristophanes has been sort of lurky here...
- I don't mind being scumread, as long as I'm not mislynched. And calling me uncharismatic feels like a low blow - us Finns have never been called good at socializing
- I A A T B U D A I C C L I I A S R A L A I A N L. *I didn't understand your last line, so I'll try to make a line that you can't understand*

[Cabd]

Cabd, are you around?

I am.

My earlier question re:mulch stands, and add to it wondering what YOU think of my dance invitations?

[UnaBombaH]

Two more things before I'm off from work and need to focus on driving and not dying IRL:

1. Saying that "someone would NEVER PICK SOMETHING" in Team Mafia, is ALWAYS drenched in WIFOM. Like, Aristophanes won his last scumroll. It was a sweep.
2. Someone saying that their teammates said ANYTHING can never be taken at face-value. Like, if I told you everything Boon has had to say about how HE reads some of you guys, you would probably be split between "yeah, trust him over yourself" and "Boons reads are always BS".

I might be newer to the site than most of you guys, but I've seen enough of how this site is run by egos and even bigger egos, that I know I'm right here.

[UnaBombaH]

And you know what - fck it.
While we are at the core of WIFOMing who gets what role - why would my team ever give me a scumrole?
I'm fairly certain we got 0 scumrolls anyway, but if we didn't, I would probably be the last one to get one.

[Cheetory6]

Aristophanes hates playing scum and there are lots of people here who can confidently read him. It's possible he took scum. It's also possible that he might be punching himself in the face right now. I don't really think he'd do either to himself here.

I'll get to KMD tonight if I can Spiff.
Also have thoughts on your self-analysis but I don't really want to get into it while I'm at work.

[UnaBombaH]

But yeah Mathdino says OMGUS is something town-you does and it seems like your reads are based entirely on that despite what you say.

I'm actually becoming fairly certain that A) Mathdino didn't say this, and B) if he did, he was wrong.

My reads are not based on OMGUS - they are based on interactions and whether something is fake or not.

[UnaBombaH]

Aristophanes hates playing scum and there are lots of people here who can confidently read him. It's possible he took scum. It's also possible that he might be punching himself in the face right now. I don't really think he'd do either to himself here.

So you're also saying people can confidently read him?
Are you one of those people?
I assume it has to be based on tone alone, simply because he has done very little in the terms of scumhunting.
Not judging the player - yet again, only respect for my "elders" - but what is his value to town if he doesn't scumhunt or post much, and is only obv.town to those who are part of a circle who can toneread him confidently based on something like 6 posts?

Genuinely, honestly interested.