Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Ether]

Day 1, Votecount 41

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I miss the bad things, the way you flame me
I miss the screaming you think's gonna sway me
Miss the quotewalls
Where my eyes bleed
I miss the slapfights
No one wants to read
I liked your godawful case
And the votes it put on me
I love the way that it hurts
I don't miss you, I miss our TvT

-[

I Miss The Misery,

Halestorm

]

3 Eddie Cane (Chara, Ginngie, Kmd4390)
3 Mulch (Kagami, implosion, Spiffeh)
2 Kagami (Firebringer, Mulch)
1 Cabd (Toranaga)
1 Ginngie (Patrick)
1 Kmd4390 (UnaBombaH)

4 Unvote (Aristophanes, Cabd, Cheetory6, Eddie Cane)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-05 00:00:00), on Sunday, February 4 at 11:59 pm EST.

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[Kmd4390]

Eddie, you asked why I was voting you. I couldn't have my first choice in unabomb so I went to my second which is you based on transcend meta and his handling of mulch.

[Spiffeh]

If Cabd's actually a friendly neighbor I'm putting my vote elsewhere

[Eddie Cane]

yes, it is. if you can say "this is TvS", you can say who is more likely faking it and who is not. if you can only say "

someone

is not being genuine here, but i can't tell who" then it's an unhelpful read.

but i feel like we've argued about this before... in Beneath the Mask, i think. maybe?

anyways, Eddie. tell me about where you are? why weren't you interested in 1v1ing Mulch?

because i don't have the will to deal with him regardless of his alignment\\tvt in the way una just used it as stupid, svs is a fancy way of saying they both look scummy and have no good reason not to be partners, tvt is a fancy way of saying fuck off dumbasses, tvx is a valid statement.

[Eddie Cane]

Eddie, you asked why I was voting you. I couldn't have my first choice in unabomb so I went to my second which is you based on transcend meta and his handling of mulch.

show me why this is scum transcend on meta, because i know transcend meta and it's not, nor is it his town meta.

[Chara]

Kmd, tell me about Una scum? i want to add him to the townpile. Cabd might be out of it while still being a townlean.

[Chara]

because i don't have the will to deal with him regardless of his alignment\\tvt in the way una just used it as stupid, svs is a fancy way of saying they both look scummy and have no good reason not to be partners, tvt is a fancy way of saying fuck off dumbasses, tvx is a valid statement.

SvS is a fancy way of saying "this is scum theatre and looks like it", not "they're both scummy". but it seems we have different definitions.

i asked because in Beneath the Mask you avoided a 1v1 because you thought the player could be town despite the scumread.
not sure how i feel about wanting to avoid Mulch. you're in a game with him, you made a very involved scumcase on him, you're involved. do you want him lynched or don't you?

[Ginngie]

you're in a game with him, you made a very involved scumcase on him, you're involved. do you want him lynched or don't you?

*claps*

[Eddie Cane]

because i don't have the will to deal with him regardless of his alignment\\tvt in the way una just used it as stupid, svs is a fancy way of saying they both look scummy and have no good reason not to be partners, tvt is a fancy way of saying fuck off dumbasses, tvx is a valid statement.

SvS is a fancy way of saying "this is scum theatre and looks like it", not "they're both scummy". but it seems we have different definitions.

i asked because in Beneath the Mask you avoided a 1v1 because you thought the player could be town despite the scumread.
not sure how i feel about wanting to avoid Mulch. you're in a game with him, you made a very involved scumcase on him, you're involved. do you want him lynched or don't you?

you're in a game with him

not by choice

do you want him lynched or don't you?

yes
i am not willing to put in the effort to do it,

regardless of his alignment

he's going to have a temper tantrum, bitch about always getting mislynched d1, spam some annoying shit, and microquote random shit i do and try to make it look bad. i do not have the desire to spend hours 1v1ing him. sorry. i'm waiting for boon's updated read and if its town i could be wrong. if its scum, then fun time /s.



what 1v1 did i avoid?

[Eddie Cane]

and that wasn't a very involved scum case, it was me giving doggo a bone because doggo doesn't case and it was annoying me that ya'll were giving him such a hard time when mulch was being scummy as fuck. i wasn't even in the game, i've skimmed most of this thread, idk how that's involved :/

[Chara]

what 1v1 did i avoid?

i don't remember, when i looked this up it was with a 1v1 keyword, and i'm unfortunately on my phone now. i would guess Rational Numbers but i can go find it properly later. you did specifically say you were avoiding a 1v1 with the slot (don't know which as i only ISOed you) because you thought they could be town.

[Chara]

and that wasn't a very involved scum case, it was me giving doggo a bone because doggo doesn't case and it was annoying me that ya'll were giving him such a hard time when mulch was being scummy as fuck. i wasn't even in the game, i've skimmed most of this thread, idk how that's involved :/

it looked very involved.
and i do remember Transcend casing Mulch this game.

[Cheetory6]

Eddie, do you have a read on Spiff atm?

[Chara]

yes
i am not willing to put in the effort to do it, regardless of his alignment he's going to have a temper tantrum, bitch about always getting mislynched d1, spam some annoying shit, and microquote random shit i do and try to make it look bad. i do not have the desire to spend hours 1v1ing him. sorry. i'm waiting for boon's updated read and if its town i could be wrong. if its scum, then fun time /s.

i'm fine with seeing what Boon says as Una is on his way to a townread.

[Eddie Cane]

Eddie, do you have a read on Spiff atm?

nope, should I? useless lurker who apparently was a paragon at some point but i wouldn't know that based on their play here. i would've scumread it but it seems all the people with spiffeh experience aren't scumreadin the lurking so shrug

and that wasn't a very involved scum case, it was me giving doggo a bone because doggo doesn't case and it was annoying me that ya'll were giving him such a hard time when mulch was being scummy as fuck. i wasn't even in the game, i've skimmed most of this thread, idk how that's involved :/

it looked very involved.
and i do remember Transcend casing Mulch this game.

where?

what 1v1 did i avoid?

i don't remember, when i looked this up it was with a 1v1 keyword, and i'm unfortunately on my phone now. i would guess Rational Numbers but i can go find it properly later. you did specifically say you were avoiding a 1v1 with the slot (don't know which as i only ISOed you) because you thought they could be town.

yep, that's right. i was tunnelling them kind of because mastina had a previously 100% success rate as math himself told me, and they were scummy enough to me. i didnt turn it into a 1v1 and actively only replied to posts by them rather than make my own because i had ruined the game enough at that point.

[Ginngie]

VOTE: SPiff

[Chara]

crazy... but i became hardtown when i wasn't voting you

hmmm i wonder if that's a genuine thought process from a player with a green role pm at all..

hmmmm

so you're saying i'm confirmed mafia for voting you but you're not even voting me

like come the fuck on my lynch already has traction

why not hop back on (:

oh right it's because i'm not getting mislynhed

alright, the test is complete.

tor's blatant town.

and me and mulch both townread him, but LO AND BEHOLD, he doesn't do lickety split when i vote toranaga and not him

he is calm cool and collected when i'm not voting him

when i vote him, he nearly implodes

VOTE: mulch

im scummy when i vote mulch but not when i vote someone both of us townread !!!!!!!!!

did you not just see how completely different mulch's tone and approach was when i voted him vs. when i voted our mutual townread?

come on una work with me here!

i did a test to give you a chance to prove you're town

all you had to do was push on me when i voted someone that wasn't you

you didn't push on me once when i did

i know lolcases and all that but seriously open your eyes

Mulch says this!

i did a test to give you a chance to prove you're town

all you had to do was push on me when i voted someone that wasn't you

you didn't push on me once when i did

I didn’t push on you when you voted me. I’m not pushing you today

Spoiler: but what actually happened was this!

you know what this is a scum draw for you mulch. sorry.

VOTE: mulch

why am i town :O

do you actually townread me or did you back the F*CK off of me because there was a zero zilch nada percent chance you were getting me mislynched

I’m townreading you with hesitation because your trybarding a Lot regardless of alignment

But I came in and am doing that too so I can’t blame you

Also if I was scum I’m pretty sure I could mislynch you

nice job answering the question (:

NOT.

Actually I don’t townread anymore

Your being manipulative and I don’t understand why your team is scumreading me

And you feel like your trying to gain towncred

you will not be giving a waffly stance on me this game without getting lynhed for it

you either tr me or sr me. no in between.

this is super dumb also

because my reads suggest it.


maybe try solving the game dude instead of getting so defensive over every single dart thrown your way.

I’m getting panicky because I think your scum and there isn’t any way to show it

una do u actually think mulch is town tho (:

pedit: if yuo think i'm scum then vote me

come the fuck at me

fight me

No, you wild lynch me

I don’t know how to explain why I think your scum

you don't have to explain anything, just vote me

pedit: well i scum read mulch, so if he self destructs on d1 and he is scum that's fine by me!

You said you didn’t know how to read me so why are you trying and failing

Trans I’m sorry for scumreading u plz forgive me

una do u actually think mulch is town tho (:

pedit: if yuo think i'm scum then vote me

come the fuck at me

fight me

No, you wild lynch me

I don’t know how to explain why I think your scum

what a wild transition in the span of 23 whole minutes :O

YEs because you became fucking scummy

crazy... but i became hardtown when i wasn't voting you

hmmm i wonder if that's a genuine thought process from a player with a green role pm at all..

hmmmm

I thought it was scummy that you voted me. Then you re evaluated townily. Then you voted me again and it was scummy

Then he says this!

well you sure did push me a whole lot in the moment that i voted tora

ps: you didn't

Yes I did

Your stretching and manipulating

Spoiler: but what actually happened was this!

VOTE: toranaga

VOTE: toranaga

Why are you voting my mason

he's scum (:

He’s probably not

Why are you scumreading him

why aren't you (:

He probably wanted town and he’s been towny

i just re-iso'd him he has bad posts

would have spoilered this but there's a spoiler.

not saying town Transcend is incapable of casing, but he did do it here. also this was maybe pointless, but i did want to answer.
the reaction test in particular was silly. you know that Mulch hates being scumread yourself, but Transcend presents the difference in reaction with the Toranaga vote and the Mulch vote as though it means something. and i distinctly do not get the impression Transcend doesn't know Mulch.

[Chara]

a spoiler i killed during that, somehow. damn it.

[Spiffeh]

Winning Paragon and trying to play mafia is like trying to live a normal life after winning the lottery

[Ginngie]

woe is you for signing up a game and being expected to play it

[Spiffeh]

Lol Ginngie you've been equally as useless as me so that's p. funny coming from you

[Cheetory6]

I'm not even pushing you for being paragon.
I'm pushing you for having a scary lategame scumgame.

I don't understand why you would sign up for team mafia if you didn't even feel like trying. Do you know how hard townYou would railroad me into the ground if I was playing how you're playing right now?

Seriously, if you're town, either stop with the woe is me shit and read the game/get invested or replace out.

[Firebringer]

Cheetory can you lay off him

[Spiffeh]

Since it wasn't clear, #1502 was in response to this:

nope, should I? useless lurker who apparently was a paragon at some point but i wouldn't know that based on their play here.

So everyone pls relax

[Spiffeh]

And it was just a fun little anecdote idk why it garnered such passionate reactions lmao