Team Mafia 2018: Inventions Mafia Day 4

[Something_Smart]

I almost think if scum she would have just forced a read (or at least made an attempt) rather than asking what you "needed".

[Creature]

I'm guessing we stick with the lynch Anen/Ghost venge the other.

[Creature]

but I don't want this day to end so early.

[Creature]

Still don't think it's GuiltyLion.

[Creature]

Anyone has experiences with gigabyteTroubadour?

[Creature]

Creature can you unpack byf!NotPOE for me bc I feel pretty strongly there

How easy can you read BYF?

[Creature]

Smocaine

Who chesskid thinks is the third scum?

[Creature]

Page 128

I can sorta see BYF being town here.

[Creature]

Katyusha and Something_Smart very likely town, just need to recheck some pages.

[Creature]

I still really need to sort singersigner and Errantparabola.

[Creature]

Sounds like he's creating a false dichotomy for the purpose of figuring out why he can't accept a "null/haven't flushed out a read on him, yet" answer.

singersigner, do you think this scummy?

[Creature]

singersigner, what do you think about Errantparabola?

[RadiantCowbells]

I can't permit all this mafia playing in my game thread.

[Creature]

singersigner, who do you think RC was trying to make look good D1?

[Creature]

singersigner, why do you think RC would hard-defend his buddy? Was it because his third buddy would be in a good position? If yes, then who is most likely to be that third buddy?

[Creature]

singersigner, do you have experiences with Errantparabola? Does he play like this as town¹?

¹ = I mean: making posts such as 2860 which I haven't read.

[Creature]

Also, how tf Errant hasn't been even prodded yet?

[Creature]

singersigner, do you think my questions are scummy?

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't listen to creature singer he's just scum trying to stand in the way of everything that we've built up together.

When am I getting my vengekill?

[Creature]

Hey Tchill, are you here?

[RadiantCowbells]

[singersigner]

What did I just read...

Sounds like

she

's creating a false dichotomy for the purpose of figuring out why he can't accept a "null/haven't flushed out a read on him, yet" answer.

Who are you referring to here?

Myself...I was being snarky...

Sounds like he's creating a false dichotomy for the purpose of figuring out why he can't accept a "null/haven't flushed out a read on him, yet" answer.

singersigner, do you think this scummy?

Do I think I'M scummy? This is me referring to myself, not you, if that makes a difference...

singersigner, what do you think about Errantparabola?

I think I made myself pretty clear in this post (at the bottom) and subsequent posts where I've called for his lynch.

singersigner, who do you think RC was trying to make look good D1?

That would take some ISOing...

singersigner, why do you think RC would hard-defend his buddy? Was it because his third buddy would be in a good position? If yes, then who is most likely to be that third buddy?

1. Hard-defense of someone is NAI in it of itself, you have to look at what they're saying. If a scum buddy wasn't doing anything wrong I'd poke holes in someone's argument which may or may not like like a "hard-defense."
2. Assuming RC flips scum like we think, why would the third scum being in a good position make it more likely that RC would hard-defend his buddy?
3. Uh...couldn't tell you since I'm not sure what this line of questioning has to do with finding the third scum. You could independently ask me who I think the third scum is and I'll say I've made it pretty clear in my lynch pools.

singersigner, do you have experiences with Errantparabola? Does he play like this as town¹?

¹ = I mean: making posts such as 2860 which I haven't read.

If I've played with him I couldn't tell you so I'm operating with the mentality that this is the first game I've ever played with him.

singersigner, do you think my questions are scummy?

NAI.

[Aneninen]

Catching-up

The elect is basically choosing tomorrow’s lynch

No, we're choosing the Vengeful's target together.

You didn't vote.¹ You pushed a null read.² You were twitchy over the hammer and you so desperately didn't want to called mastina's scum buddy.³ I even pointed out how odd it was yesterday. You seem reluctant to be associated with mastina throughout and wanted to seem to be very Town with your hammer.⁴

(1) What should I say? I know that was dumb.
(2) The more I read Mastina's posts the more scummier she looked. And I'd say the same most probably if I were scum.
(3) See (2)
(4) Actually the way she wanted to buddy me made me think she was scum. And I realized that she had been digging my grave by doing so, because I don't have a proof that I'm not her buddy. That'swhy I said that I shouldn't be around at LyLo. It would cost us the game.

And if we were scum together, why would we have this interaction since we'd be on together at the same time and I would of been added to the scum chat?

Or it was posted in the wrong chat.

This is a really large freak-out for a possible interaction to mastina. Really big. I've never seen a Town slot go 'holy shit, I might be seen as your scumbuddy, I'd better rebuff it quickly.'

Do you think Mastina would ever had been tag her scumbuddy like that? But yet again, it's only my words. I'm sitting in the middle of a WIFOM created by her, so see (4) above!

He LITERALLY ENDED DAY. He couldn't wait six days to see how his suggestion worked out? Also hold onto that list for a minute...

I lost my patience and I got scared that her wagon might be derailed.

...no, just kidding, it's my slot. He's picking my slot for final scum.

Not yet. I need to ISO all the others too. Eg. I didn't like GuiltyLion's early-Day2 posts.

i dont really see why 'from a certain pov'-esque posting is scummy, especially in the specific instance you pointed out. he's trying to engage with reck and explain why he thinks picking him as a hider is a good option from reck's perspective (it's not, there's definitely scum equity in trying to muddy the hider clear as scum, but that's not your argument and it's also stupid to do that when you know you will be solo scum). explaining why it's a good move from anen's pov doesn't make sense

Sort of.

I don’t really want to coast though, at some point we should go through everyone and be certain about our reads.

That.

@Aneninen...what the FUCK is the significance of pointing out Ghostlin's preview edit to Mastina when Mastina was still saying "hindu" was scummy?

If you're talking about the same thing, that post might have been posted in the wrong chat.

Also add Srceenplay to my townlist

I think I was wrong about him before. He as the third scum simply makes little sense.

She was always behind, she only caught up after the first Great Eight

Great Eight. That's going to be famous, I guess.....................

I WOULD LOVE TO LYNCH ANENINEN.

Good.
Then I should get the Invention, shouldn't I?

so they don't get accidentally killed since a venge kill is the only thing they can't control...

According to the Setup there may be some PR-s around. Those might mean some more threat, I guess.
Also, we can decide whom the Vengeful should target if they happen to get Nightkilled. Not obeying could be an auto-lynch. (But that doesn't mean much, they get lynched most probably on Day3 anyway.) Point me out if my train of thoughts is flawed.

lets elect aneninen or ghost as soon as possible
and then lynch rc

I'm still saying this. So, which one of us?

[Something_Smart]

Elect: BigYoshiFan

[Aneninen]

Does anyone mind this day going for a bit more while?

We need to elect and I guess we need to decide whom the Vengeful should target at Night2.

Ghostlin and Anen, just for the sake of it can you guys vote for your scumreads instead of yourselves? thanks

I still want to do some more footwork.

At the risk of Katy completely fucking manipulating me...I've asked my team to advise on whether or not I'm being duped. I also have quite the success rate of venge kills but seeing as I might only get to use it if I'm night killed it'd only serve as self-preservation...I need objective observers to tell me if that's not the route we should be taking...

I've been townreading her for a while. But her vote was away from Mastina, which we shouldn't ignore.

I haven't read too closely, but Anemic's posting is GOOD

Which one? That's important. Something came into my mind. (Even if you all doubt that might be remotely useful for us.)

pre-game shit b. I would assume Chesskid doesn't have the program. I'm conftown who doesn't need to read or explain things.

WHY WE SHOULD RULE OUT EVERY LYNCH EXCEPT GL TOMORROW:
HE SNAGGED A RED ROLE PM

Okay, let's say for a short while that I believe you.
Answer these:
1. Don't you think Chesskid was playing your slot in a very weird way?
2. If you were me and you got the Invention, would you target GuiltyLion?
3. Would you suggest the same for Ghostlin?

Having a feeling RC must've made the final scum look good based on interactions.

???

Alright, sooooo...

People who can die who may or may not be scum:
RadiantCowbells
Aneninen
GuiltyLion
Errant

If people need Ghostlin dead tomorrow I won't prevent it but I think Aneninen would be a better choice. Either way it likely means I get my flip on Aneninen and gg?????
Will vote RC upon confirmation we have a the invention secured on someone.

RadiantCowbells is not in the "may or may not be" category. His gameplay basically confirms his alignment.
Why do you think Ghostlin is town? Have you read my post?
FYI, unless I have the Invention and pick the last scum, the game won't end with my death.

GL, how likely would you have been to take a scum role?

Do you think you'll get a real answer for this?

What do you think about singersigner's reactiveness (mainly #3242)?

Not only did she vote for Mastina, she also expressed her scumread. I don't think that would make too much sense in that game phase. If she were scum, she could have left the wagon and voted for me any time without getting any FoS for doing so.

I'm guessing we stick with the lynch Anen/Ghost venge the other.

I guess you're talking about Day3. Which one of us?

Elect: BigYoshiFan

But why?
The pool for this beautiful Invention is Ghostlin, Aneninen and maybe GuiltyLion.