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Post Post #4150 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:14 am

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Day 4, Votecount 24


He's everything you want
He's everything you need
He has compelling evidence supporting all his reads
He says all the right things at exactly the right time
But he could probably fool you, so he needs to die
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1 Chara (Kmd4390)
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1 UnaBombaH (Ginngie)

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The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-23 01:00:00), on Friday, February 23 at 1:00 am EST.


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Post Post #4151 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:18 am

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In post 4148, Chara wrote:in that case, i very definitely forgot about whatever case you posted.

i think it's most convenient to have a scumread that won't get lynched that you can keep pushing for the entire game. if i were Math i would be a lot more frustrated about the fact the last scum is pretty much unlynchable, i suppose..?
i don't even though. there are a few reasons it seems fake.
Unlynchable?

Does anyone else feel that way?
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Post Post #4152 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:46 am

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In post 4148, Chara wrote:in that case, i very definitely forgot about whatever case you posted.

i think it's most convenient to have a scumread that won't get lynched that you can keep pushing for the entire game. if i were Math i would be a lot more frustrated about the fact the last scum is pretty much unlynchable, i suppose..?
i don't even though. there are a few reasons it seems fake.
He's more frustrated that he doesn't want Aris or Ginngie lynched and they are now the most likely lynches. He wants to keep Aris, Patrick, and Firebringer alive and says that's a sure win even if I get lynched at some point and that if that happens everyone needs to remember that town Bloc.
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Post Post #4153 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:50 am

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proving that Ari has done this as town isn't a good reason to townbin him, though.
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Post Post #4154 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:21 am

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That was my point, not mathdino's. All I was doing was showing that the case that he wouldn't play that way as town is wrong. Mathdino is townreading him because he wouldn't pick scum.
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Post Post #4155 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:32 am

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In post 4151, Kmd4390 wrote:Unlynchable?

Does anyone else feel that way?
I'm leaning towards Chara being town, but am not as sure as I'd like to be. I do think their point here is fair though; Chara seems pretty widely townread.

Is there something about Chara's trajectory that makes it worse than other people who defended Mulch? I looked back at your post on them and it seems to actually be the cabd read you dislike, which seems a super lightweight reason.
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Post Post #4156 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:44 am

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Yeah it's mostly cabd. What about it feels weak to you? And can you talk more about why Chara is town?
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Post Post #4157 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:02 pm

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Tone today seems more townish, and a read of a recent towngame and recent scumgame left me thinking they sound more like the towngame here. I don't think their scumgame is as weak as they've claimed it is, but plenty of people downplay that. It's a read I'd revisit before certain others, but I'm happy enough with it right now.

cabd I think was a reasonable player to table on day 1 and come back to on day 2, and a sharp rise in suspicion day 2 is normal following the bulletproof claim. I guess I just don't see how anyone's behaviour around him could lead to a significant scumread when he was pretty clearly going to be lynched after he claimed on day 2.
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Post Post #4158 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:04 pm

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Chara just played well as scum in a game I modded (scum sweep actually).

But otherwise.

This is exactly why I'm stuck.

I'm not gonna be able to argue against tone. Or a general meta feel.

And I can buy that you legitimately believe those things. And at the same time they aren't going to change my read.

I can also see your point on the cabd stuff.

So.

Like.

I'm stuck with Chara being my best guess, nothing to tell me otherwise, and no way to argue against anyone's reasons for thinking otherwise.

That's probably where anyone is getting a stagnant feel on my read.

But:
Firebringer- Obvtown
Ginngie- Obvtown
Aris - Town read.
Cheet - His play has looked town
Patrick - I see more town than scum here
Spiff- Hard to say either way, but I don't see any reason to think scum
Implosion - Has answered everything reasonably
Unabomb - The way he approached his claim feels decent
And then there's Chara.
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Post Post #4159 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:33 pm

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In post 4146, Chara wrote:also Ari, you really must explain why Spiffeh feels right for scum. :<
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Post Post #4160 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:27 pm

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we have 5 days........
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Post Post #4161 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:29 pm

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In post 4160, Ginngie wrote:we have 5 days........
So do I sheep you or Aris for my compromise?
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Post Post #4162 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:27 pm

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bleh bleh bleh.

I feel pretty neutral about kmd's math's thoughts.

I feel pretty bleh about like everything in sight here.
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Post Post #4163 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:50 pm

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i stared at this for a while before remembering i'm a player in this game and am allowed to post. haha.

i actually would not have been so disparaging about my scumgame if this game had started after Twin Trap's end. i was pleasantly surprised with how that one worked out, and hopefully it means i'm getting better. (though it's one game, so who knows) i do want Patrick to know it wasn't a case of my downplaying Twin Trap, but rather a case of timing.
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Kmd: i actually agree with your entire readslist, except for a few obvious places. Ari townread, etc. i also think Patrick is probably town, and i liked . it just makes sense and he actually did go look into my meta, not just do a bad skim. i'm aware scum can do that too, but he's still felt pretty town.
as for implosion: while i can appreciate the skill, i don't think being able to answer everything logically and being consistent are towntells. it just means he's a pretty good player.

i take back what i said about Kmd's read making no sense to me, though. i see it. i like its post there, too.
i sort of hope it's just Ari. if not him then implosion. i should really iso the latter.
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Post Post #4164 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:11 am

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In post 4163, Chara wrote:it just makes sense and he actually did go look into my meta, not just do a bad skim.
He definitely was just skimming I'm afraid. Maybe it was a good skim though :P

I also feel myself just hoping it's Aristophanes. I feel better about Kmd and Chara but that might be because they're the people I interacted with.
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Post Post #4165 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:01 pm

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Vla until I'm feeling less sick
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Post Post #4166 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:04 pm

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I think if we lynch {Arisophanes, implosion} we win and if not then idk

Probs just gonna vote Ari tomorrow, maybe I'll some how feel motivated to invest some time in to the game other than that but I doubt it
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Post Post #4167 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:39 pm

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This is still a game
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Post Post #4168 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:41 pm

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Okay I didn’t think want to out this but

I have a inno on all the alive players but ari
So it has to be ari.

Let’s go!
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Post Post #4169 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:09 pm

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unvote, vote spiff


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Post Post #4170 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:16 pm

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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post Post #4171 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:39 pm

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I dunno I just don't think Chara or unabomb can get the support.
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Post Post #4172 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:44 pm

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VOTE: spiff
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Post Post #4173 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:38 pm

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that pink is just terrible. being back the old chatmod colour.

i find myself still wanting Ari lynched but also with no real reaction to a Spiffeh wagon.

Patrick: that's too bad. your conclusions were on point even if you didn't go very in-depth, in that case.
townreading everyone not in Ari/implosion. Spiffeh is the weakest townread.
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Post Post #4174 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:41 pm

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ugh. forgot about Kmd. :v somehow.
Kmd's at Spiffeh level. i suppose?
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