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Post Post #3400 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:09 am

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In post 3399, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3398, Davsto wrote:can we not have last minute shitty compromise lynches mkay (that's especially @Ran who was even scumreading CES earlier but has the nerve to ask me to compromise on LQ or Shea like,, the fuck? Why would I ever compromise on a lynch when the person I scumread most is at L-1??? Fuckin nuts)

This real difficulty in getting a hammer on CES despite less than 24 hours left is as frustrating as it is fishy
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I had him and dan as very similar players who both posted townie things but didn't post with enough frequency to look like they actually cared about the direction of the town.

ActionDan has started being louder in response to that post and I wish davsto would too.
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Post Post #3401 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:11 am

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In post 3400, Thestatusquo wrote:I wish he would post more.
I'm sorry, I was posting more rapidly earlier due to half term (i.e. a week off) but having college and college work limits my posting. This is an explanation, not an excuse meant to justify my lack of posting (I'm totally aware I can and should be posting more) but yeh that's why. I will be trying harder.
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Post Post #3402 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 am

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Ran asked for what I'd read people if CES flips scum or town? Idk why I can't just leave this until tomorrow (because I don't want to seem like I'm extrapolating further CES-scumread from other players' behaviour - I'm not, this is merely how you can expect me to feel tomorrow upon CES scum or town flip) but I suppose I should

CES flips scum (more detail here because obviously I've given it more thought) - Ran scum, it feels like Ran gave the CES an obligatory amount of effort and a vote then hopped off once it gained momentum and is now campaigning and virtually begging hard for unvotes to kill the momentum. Again, I'm not going to extrapolate and I'm not saying today that CES is scum because of this behaviour by Ran, because I know if I don't clarify this someone will accuse me of it. I'm not sure who the third scum would be under this situation. NSG and Marquis town likely for clear reasons, and though I wouldn't totally rule out bussing on Marquis that'd be a theory I wouldn't consider chasing up unless Marquis came across badly.

CES flips town - Ran probably town, the above description does not feel like scum-defending-town for towncred. I'd probably begrudgingly listen to him and look deeper into Marquis being scum, but I'd hardly put it as solid unless I found evidence for myself. I have other people I'd consider for scum but it's not really an associative in relation to CES as much as they are just because one person I've scumread turned out town so there's more scum among my townreads, if that makes sense.
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Post Post #3403 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:14 am

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In post 3402, Davsto wrote:Ran asked for what I'd read people if CES flips scum or town? Idk why I can't just leave this until tomorrow (because I don't want to seem like I'm extrapolating further CES-scumread from other players' behaviour - I'm not, this is merely how you can expect me to feel tomorrow upon CES scum or town flip) but I suppose I should

CES flips scum (more detail here because obviously I've given it more thought) - Ran scum, it feels like Ran gave the CES an obligatory amount of effort and a vote then hopped off once it gained momentum and is now campaigning and virtually begging hard for unvotes to kill the momentum. Again, I'm not going to extrapolate and I'm not saying today that CES is scum because of this behaviour by Ran, because I know if I don't clarify this someone will accuse me of it. I'm not sure who the third scum would be under this situation. NSG and Marquis town likely for clear reasons, and though I wouldn't totally rule out bussing on Marquis that'd be a theory I wouldn't consider chasing up unless Marquis came across badly.

CES flips town - Ran probably town, the above description does not feel like scum-defending-town for towncred. I'd probably begrudgingly listen to him and look deeper into Marquis being scum, but I'd hardly put it as solid unless I found evidence for myself. I have other people I'd consider for scum but it's not really an associative in relation to CES as much as they are just because one person I've scumread turned out town so there's more scum among my townreads, if that makes sense.
Third scum would be dunn. If there's a bus vote on the CES wagon its dunns.
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Post Post #3404 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:15 am

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Wait I just checked and Dunn didn't vote CES.

I am apparently. crazy. Scratch everything I said about that.
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Post Post #3405 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:15 am

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I was about to say Dun is voting you
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Post Post #3406 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:16 am

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I could have swore I remembered him voting CES but it looks like I was just remembering his vote on me.
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Post Post #3407 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:18 am

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In post 3328, Thestatusquo wrote:My vote on CES, for those who keep saying its "SUS" is because we're at deadline
Yeah, this does make sense.
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Post Post #3408 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:20 am

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Also I'm gonna hope and see if I can dissect the big CES defencepost tomorrow morning UK time (that's before official deadline dw) because it's too late tonight
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Post Post #3409 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:21 am

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In post 3407, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3328, Thestatusquo wrote:My vote on CES, for those who keep saying its "SUS" is because we're at deadline
Yeah, this does make sense.
There was other reasoning there too, obviously.

I'm not just going to hop on, say, a ActionDan wagon just because we're at deadline. But it does make my threshold lower.
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Post Post #3410 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:21 am

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Shea prolly Town here. Hard to admit I was wrong all along, but I am starting to see it now.

I tend to get very paranoid about good players I am playing with, which I am sure shea can understand based on the dragon game, or whatever where he was Scum and I didn't believe Boon was Town.
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Post Post #3411 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:22 am

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Tbf boon is scum even when he isn't.
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Post Post #3412 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:23 am

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In post 3409, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 3407, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3328, Thestatusquo wrote:My vote on CES, for those who keep saying its "SUS" is because we're at deadline
Yeah, this does make sense.
There was other reasoning there too, obviously.

I'm not just going to hop on, say, a ActionDan wagon just because we're at deadline. But it does make my threshold lower.
Reasons rarely come up with Town/Scum reads.. What get's Town/Scum reads is behavior. Here I am seeing that was you did was actually pretty Pro-Town all things considered. Town is going to care about the deadline more than Scum like 10/10 times.
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Post Post #3413 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:25 am

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Post Post #3414 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:28 am

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In post 3406, Thestatusquo wrote:I could have swore I remembered him voting CES but it looks like I was just remembering his vote on me.
Derp Clear IMO.
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Post Post #3415 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 3414, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3406, Thestatusquo wrote:I could have swore I remembered him voting CES but it looks like I was just remembering his vote on me.
Derp Clear IMO.
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Post Post #3416 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:39 am

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In post 3415, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3414, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3406, Thestatusquo wrote:I could have swore I remembered him voting CES but it looks like I was just remembering his vote on me.
Derp Clear IMO.
why
Because Scum are usually pretty damn sure when someone votes them who it is.
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Post Post #3417 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:40 am

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makes sense, but idk I've known some airheaded scum
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Post Post #3418 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 3417, Gamma Emerald wrote:makes sense, but idk I've known some airheaded scum
If I was going to say Shea was still Scum, I would say he was faking it for that juicy Town cred when he is wagoned, not that he was just being an airhead.
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Post Post #3419 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 2072, MathBlade wrote:
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Dunnstral(3)
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Marquis(2)
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LicketyQuickety(1)
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Not Voting (0):
Time for some wagon analysis. BTW I do think there's scum on the Eddie wagon. We know Postie is town cos night kill. CES and TSQ are both on the Eddie wagon. Not really suspecting Ranmaru currently so thinking that's not it. Davsto I've been feeling as town throughout so not thinking it's him either. Lycan is justified cos tunnels.
TSQ: says postie's case makes a lot of sense. I think he's just swayed by cases easily, probably town (this has nothing to do with anyone else's alignment)
CES: He was actually scumreading Eddie day 2, but what's interesting is he pushed an Eddie/Postie team, which honestly was pretty stupid and probably a scum-motivated push.
Quick: Voted later saying Eddie didn't seem to want to play. Fair vote but not necessarily towny.
So CES is the scummiest off that wagon imo
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Votecount 3.17

Cogito Ergo Sum(5)
~ (55), (26), (105), (290), (146)

Thestatusquo(3)
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Not Voting (1): (164)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

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Performed 19 calls in 232 seconds. With an average of 12.2580526315789 seconds per call.
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Post Post #3421 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:51 am

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17-8=9
I should be able to be on at DL if I get up early
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Post Post #3422 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:52 am

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What do you think is going to change between now and then?
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Post Post #3423 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:53 am

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Not much but with what's happening I can see reason to not hammer, info is being generated
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Post Post #3424 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:55 am

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Well, I'm going to leave for work soon. I trust that someone hammers someone before deadline. I might check in tonight at home but I might not.

Please guys just don't let us NL and put us back in this same position tomorrow.
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