Mini Number 2195 | Brutalism | GAME OVER

[VP Baltar]

GC town

Go on

As in, why specifically is GC town here, and do you think Duchess is scum?

[Reformed Toxic Player]

GC is cagey abt their reads and acknowledges fault imo that leans towny mindset.
I dont have a take on duchess rn.

[VP Baltar]

acknowledges fault imo

Can you point me to what specifically pinged that for you?

[Reformed Toxic Player]

Is GC bad at baseball?

Yes. He struck out the first time he went to the plate.

So GC is bad at baseball bc he struck out the first time you went to bat?


Trying to shade me for linking the yes/no longer to the immediately following observation, that I’m twisting words, is just so scummy.

Trying to shade me for connecting the

[VP Baltar]

He isn't being cagey about his reads in that post. He is using a metaphor to explain his viewpoint

[Datisi]

@duchess, can you tell me why is green's question pinging you that much? like, why does such a loaded question seem impossible (not quite the right word, but can't think of another rn) from town's pov and what kinda possible push were you seeing there?

[Datisi]

Also town vibes from RTP, Duchess, and maybe Datisi

maybe?

[RLotus]

Also town vibes from RTP, Duchess, and maybe Datisi

maybe?

yeah you give me maybe town vibes

[Datisi]

ok

what does maybe town mean (i.e. how is it different from town) and what's giving you those vibes

[Reformed Toxic Player]

He isn't being cagey about his reads in that post. He is using a metaphor to explain his viewpoint

those were 2 separate points.
you just assumed they were one and the same.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

also in case it isnt clear, im happy where my vote is rn.

[Datisi]

do you wanna say anything about it?

[RLotus]

ok

what does maybe town mean (i.e. how is it different from town) and what's giving you those vibes

Townlean but less sure. I like the places you've been poking you feel town

[VP Baltar]

He isn't being cagey about his reads in that post. He is using a metaphor to explain his viewpoint

those were 2 separate points.
you just assumed they were one and the same.

Then explain specifically where he is being cagey about his reads. I don't see it and need an explanation

[Reformed Toxic Player]

ok maybe i used bad word choice when saying reads but they still come off as cagey.

do u have a scumread on them or smthing?

[Reformed Toxic Player]

and rn im looking between andres/datisi for most likely scum.

theres a reason i think pearl fey is town but i wanna wait to reveal it to see if that wagon builds cuz i wanna see game state before i out it cuz i think its relatively strong of a reason to townread them.

[Duchess]

Green Crayons. You are characterizing my push on you as a response to your suspicion of me, which is a complete fabrication you seem to have pulled out of thin air for the sake of your argument. My trajectory is very clearly laid out. To call me defensive is nothing but more baseless projection.

I still entirely disagree with your interpretation of VD's response. The last two sentences are not full-on non-sequiturs, but they're not a justification for the first. I see them as Italiano adding his own thoughts to RTP's previous post. I am not interested in discussing theory of conversation or hearing your analogies, and I'm troubled by your refusal to address the post in question directly.

[Duchess]

@duchess, can you tell me why is green's question pinging you that much? like, why does such a loaded question seem impossible (not quite the right word, but can't think of another rn) from town's pov and what kinda possible push were you seeing there?

His defense and attempt to turn the tables on me are strengthening my read by a lot. I don't know exactly what kind of push I was expecting to see, but if I recall correctly there was some discussion just before that time of Italiano possibly being an easy early push, and what I saw pinged me, so I wanted to nip it in the bud.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

duchess whats your take on Datisi?

[ItalianoVD]

but if I recall correctly there was some discussion just before that time of Italiano possibly being an easy early push, and what I saw pinged me, so I wanted to nip it in the bud.

That was a joke I mentioned to RTP, wasn't anything serious.

I gotta say I'm not at all comfortable being in the middle of this Duchess/Green Crayons thing, lol. Like yikes, I don't like what I say to be a basis to read someone else off when it wasn't my intention to do so. If this is theatre please choose something else to fight over and leave me out of it and if you're town then just drop it, it's not that serious.

@Duchess: I already said I didn't have an issue with Green's questioning. Your defense of me pings me more than anything especially this early in the game. And it all seems weird given that I was a FoS for you as posted in 90

VOTE: Duchess

Is there a reason you are so adamant about this?

And just to clarify, my Baltar vote was a reaction test vote, it wasn't really my solidified vote. That there wasn't more reaction to it, ehh I don't know how to feel about it just yet.

[ItalianoVD]

theres a reason i think pearl fey is town but i wanna wait to reveal it to see if that wagon builds cuz i wanna see game state before i out it cuz i think its relatively strong of a reason to townread them.

I'm sorry, who is pearl fey?

[Reformed Toxic Player]

theres a reason i think pearl fey is town but i wanna wait to reveal it to see if that wagon builds cuz i wanna see game state before i out it cuz i think its relatively strong of a reason to townread them.

I'm sorry, who is pearl fey?

harumi

[Green Crayons]

Green Crayons. You are characterizing my push on you as a response to your suspicion of me, which is a complete fabrication you seem to have pulled out of thin air for the sake of your argument. My trajectory is very clearly laid out. To call me defensive is nothing but more baseless projection.

Mischaracterization.

I said you were affirmatively defending VD and separately your attack on me when I questioned your defense of VD was suspicious. I have never said that you started pushing me solely in response to my suspicion of you, which is contradicted by my first engaging you based on your fence-sitting attack on my Q to VD. You first started pushing me to defend VD, and then started attacking me when I pressed you back.

I still entirely disagree with your interpretation of VD's response. The last two sentences are not full-on non-sequiturs, but they're not a justification for the first. I see them as Italiano adding his own thoughts to RTP's previous post. I am not interested in discussing theory of conversation or hearing your analogies, and I'm troubled by your refusal to address the post in question directly.

Lies.

I haven’t refused to address any post.

To the extent you think I’ve missed some brilliant point, rather than shading me even further you could point it out rather than nebulously referring to it.

Also, love how slippery you’re being:
- Dutchess: “GC’s question is -clearly strawmanning-”
- GC: “no, here is what his response was and basic Q&A construction and the English language connects those ideas”
- Dutchess: “I don’t want to talk about that, which undermines my shading of your Q”


To cut through this back and forth about how I interpreted VD’s post differently than you: I specifically squarely asked VD a Q to clarify his response, which nullifies your entire supposed premise for why my interaction with VD is suspect. You (supposedly) have no idea what VD was going to say—for example, he could’ve said “yeah, I’m a bad scum bc I shouldn’t have let myself get quick eliminated.” Your premature jump to defend is just so suspect, and your attack-as-a-defense just underscores it.

[Green Crayons]

I don't know exactly what kind of push I was expecting to see, but if I recall correctly there was some discussion just before that time of Italiano possibly being an easy early push, and what I saw pinged me, so I wanted to nip it in the bud.

This post is screaming TMI

[Green Crayons]

Anyone play with Datisi before?