Mini 1400(!): Bubble Tape Mafia - It's Over!

killerjester · Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:57 pm

Well I guess you also

proved

that I'm scum to Cyber, but 1. He was a little slow to the pitch and 2. I'm not seeing where you had that much interest in proving anything to Cyber.

Kthxbye · Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:12 pm

If you say so. Answer the question I asked Jake then. Why would I say anything to Jake about his vote if it was me and Cyber as both scum? You make that make sense and furthermore get the whole town to believe it and I'll self vote out of shame for the town.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:18 pm

man, I am so damn confused. I think I have my mind made but still simmering a bit, I really want to see what thor has to contribute.

killerjester · Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:39 pm

In post 1501, Kthxbye wrote:If you say so. Answer the question I asked Jake then. Why would I say anything to Jake about his vote if it was me and Cyber as both scum? You make that make sense and furthermore get the whole town to believe it and I'll self vote out of shame for the town.

It's not so complicated. For whatever reasons, you and Cyber were having trouble coordinating a quickhammer. This could mean a number of things. Maybe scum don't have daytalk. Maybe Cyber was not online at the time. Maybe you were trying to appear town. I'm not really going to pick one out of a hat for you but you get the idea.

I do, however, want you to confirm that you voted me to prove to yourself that I'm scum. Something more than, "If you say so." I'm going for like a yes/no thing here.

Kthxbye · Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:45 pm

Of course it was. If you figure out a way to confirm scum to everyone playing the game, let me know, cuz I'll use it in every single one of my town games from now on. Even having a Cop role doesn't confirm town/scum to the Cop as much as I have confirmation on you due to sanity issues and scum PR's.

Are you mad that I took a good bet and caught you so easily?

Thor665 · Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:06 pm

@KJ - I've been watching this for a while, and I'm curious about something.

You know that neither Jake nor I can be scum.
Yet you aren't voting either confirmed scum.

Why is this?

Cybertronix · Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:08 pm

Hey people. Just logged in quickly to say that I'm at the hospital because my wife is expecting to deliver within a week here and they want to keep her for observation. I won't be posting or doing anything MS related tonight but I may have time tomorrow.

killerjester · Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:21 pm

...words fail me.

Any town player can recognize throwing the game to find scum is a worthless maneuver unless they can also prove to the town that their information is reliable. Kind of impossible to do in LyLo, isn't it?

PEDIT: Let me make myself clear. I quite literally

do not care

which one of Cyber/Kthx you guys choose to lynch. I do not care for the reasons why you lynch Cyber/Kthx. Hell, you could even be half-wrong. If you thought the scumteam was Cyber/Dunhamganger I would not lose a wink of sleep as long as you lynch either Cyber or Kthx today.

To illustrate my indifference, I have not voted. If you or Jake find a definitive preference between the two, I'll gladly line up behind either lynch. I'm serious. If you ask me to put my vote down right now it's as good as flipping a coin that always lands on scum. In fact, if you asked me to put my vote down I

would

flip a coin, just to humor you.

Thor665 · Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:48 pm

I just can't think of any situation where I've known someone was scum and wasn't voting them.

killerjester · Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:57 pm

Baby if I had two votes I would. I didn't want you or Jake to feel limited in that I wouldn't want to lynch the person I was not voting for.

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

Evens Kthx, Odds Cyber

killerjester · Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:57 pm

VOTE: Kthx

Kthxbye · Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:28 pm

Cute. Bussing with one, winning with the other. Can we kill KJ now and win tomorrow with a Cyber lynch?

Grats btw on the kid Cyber.

killerjester · Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:51 pm

Oh

now

you're so sure Cyber is scum?

Thor665 · Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:15 pm

Regardless of alignments - that post just won the thread.

Kthxbye · Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:18 pm

It's well thought out. I wish I was cleverer...alas, I'll have to settle for finding this scumbag.

Thor665 · Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:23 pm

Why did you call out Cyber as his scumbuddy?

Kthxbye · Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:48 pm

In post 1512, killerjester wrote:Oh
now
you're so sure Cyber is scum?

Honestly KJ, I don't know why you keep wanting to go around these circles. I've said where I stand on Jake, Thor, and Cyber multiple times, yet you keep desperately trying to latch onto something/anything in order to not hang.

Jake/Thor, if you have questions to ask me, I'll respond. If you'd like to talk about whether or not I should shoot tonight if KJ flips RB, we can talk about that as well. Otherwise, I've told you why KJ is conf-scum and why he's the best lynch for today. Other than that, I'm done for today. That poster really hurt my feelings.

p.edit: Thor: It makes the most sense. It's a logical conclusion based off my read of you and Jake. You could still be his scumbuddy. You could be asking me these questions to figure out who you want to NK. I don't know. That's the issue here. I don't anything but 2 facts: I'm a town PR that's been RB'ed all game after I had to claim and KJ is scum cuz he's not dead yet. If it sounds like I've said this before, it's cuz I have, multiple times in fact.

Why are you confused as to why I'd call Cyber his scumbuddy if you've been reading today's posts? Is it time for Thor to bail his scumbuddy out? You've been nice and silent. Even after Jake asks for your opinions on this matter. <----Its these thoughts that enter my head that make it so I can't be 100% on you or Cyber. The reason you are a

much higher

probability of being town over Cyber, is because you are actually asking questions to try and figure this out where as Cyber is being lurker after his vote. Granted, we just found out he's having a kid soon, but still...

There is probably some frustration in there as well b/c I'm the only one who knows for certain KJ is scum. If I try and step back and see it from the other towns point of view, there is no proof only posts. It's aggravating as hell.

tldr: Cyber has a higher probability of being KJ's scumbuddy than Thor does. That's why I called Cyber his scumbuddy.

killerjester · Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:08 pm

In post 1516, Kthxbye wrote:There is probably some frustration in there as well b/c I'm the only one who knows for certain KJ is scum. If I try and step back and see it from the other towns point of view, there is no proof only posts. It's aggravating as hell.

This is not the post of someone with a good scumread on Cyber. This is the post of a person who

knows

Cyber is scum. Cyber is in the same boat as Kthx but is not even slightly considered to have the same perspective as him (ie: KJ 100% scum).

Kthxbye · Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:26 am

In post 1517, killerjester wrote:
In post 1516, Kthxbye wrote:There is probably some frustration in there as well b/c I'm the only one who knows for certain KJ is scum. If I try and step back and see it from the other towns point of view, there is no proof only posts. It's aggravating as hell.

This is not the post of someone with a good scumread on Cyber. This is the post of a person who
knows
Cyber is scum. Cyber is in the same boat as Kthx but is not even slightly considered to have the same perspective as him (ie: KJ 100% scum).

Well this IS a post of someone who is flailing scum trying desperately not to get lynched.

Kthxbye · Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:09 am

Sigh, you got another response out of me by taking part of a post and trying to make it look scummy..no more I tell you!

Thor665 · Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:31 am

Dave168

: 7 (Cybertronix,

Thor665

,

AngryPidgeon

, Kthxbye,

k4shmasta

,

zipperflesh

,

qwints

)

Cybertronix:

1

(d3x)

kushm4sta

:

1 (KillerJester)

KillerJester:

1 (

DoubleJD

)

Not Voting:

3 (

Leonshade, Dave168

, Jake from State Farm)

kthxbye:

3 (

AngryPidgeon

,

mastin2, qwints

)

AngryPidgeon

:

3 (Jake from State Farm,

zipperflesh

, kthxbye)

zipperflesh

:

2 (

Thor665

, Cybertronix)

kushm4sta

:

1 (KillerJester)

mastin2

:

1

(d3x)

Not Voting:

1 (

kushm4sta

)

kushm4sta

:

6 (KillerJester,

AngryPidgeon

,

d3x, qwints

, Cybertronix, kthxbye)

zipperflesh

:

1 (

Thor665

)

AngryPidgeon

:

1 (

zipperflesh

)

d3x:

1 (

kushm4sta

)

qwints:

1 (

mastin2

)

KillerJester:

1 (Jake from State Farm)

zipperflesh

:

5 (

Thor665

, Cybertronix, kthxbye, Jake from State Farm,

qwints

)

Cybertronix:

2 (

Angry Pidgeon, d3x

)

Jake from State Farm:

1 (killerjester)

Not Voting:

1 (

zipperflesh

)

Thor665 · Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:33 am

qwints

:

4 (Jake from State Farm, kthxbye, Thor665, killerjester)

d3x:

1 (qwints)[/color]

Cybertronix:

1

(d3x)

Not Voting:

1 (Cybertronix)

Thor665 · Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:34 am

@Jake - from a glance at those, my first thought is that scum wanted to set up a Cyber lynch via D3x NK (?)
Also Cyber/Kthx seems questionable simply because of the two instances of them voting in lockstep. (Kush and Zipper lynches)

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:38 am

This suggests KJ is the right lynch IMO.

Thor665 · Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:40 am

How so?
I'm still jonesing for Kthx