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So Mafia kills a big name player N1. They then go on to kill either a solid but not terrifying player N2 or Bob (who...wasn't exactly ripping things up). N3 is either obvious or unknown. N4 they kill either a hydra of good players or anonymous ones. The possibility of KK being set up aside, it is odd that he hasn't been taken out, especially since there was a point where I thought he might be a mason based on some of his posts.
If scum are trying to crosskill then it helps less, but if they're playing with an agenda on who to take out, how the Grey kill fits in with any of their other potential choices is an interesting question. Still processing to figure out where that all leads.
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P-edit: let me check who Titus replaced; I don't remember. Although did we get an explanation for why Titus was pretending to be a cop? Because it smells like a Mafia BP being cheeky to me.Haveyouever considered that, perhaps, maybe, I am good?
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not so, my dear penguin.In post 1850, Turkish Van wrote:If scum are trying to crosskill then it helps less
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Oh, hey, Titus replaced Katarina, whom I only let off the hook because I thought she was crumbing mason. Which obviously wasn't the case.
Haven't looked at Muffin yet, but this really makes me want to lynch Titus. Has she actually done anything here? I seem to recall her post-replace-in posts were pretty fluid in a non-useful way.
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P-edit: OK, so if scum are trying to crosskill and targeted LotU and TA, what does that tell us? Without getting super-convoluted please. Because figuring out if said scum were pushing those lynches in-thread seems like a game of WIFOM. Was anyone voting them at the end of yesterday?Haveyouever considered that, perhaps, maybe, I am good?
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@TV, I never gave one. I was saying my claim was fake all along. ika is someone who I play with and he frequently gambits. I was saying I was claiming cop tomorrow to draw a nightkill and create the very scenario I was explaining, considering no one was listening to me.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Looking at the table, a Mafia RB and a Mafia BP mean that the in-between move is either on Town Cop or Town Gunsmith with a flipped Town Roleblocker. The ambiguity of your claim makes me think you were actually trying to smoke out the last town PR. Do explain why I'm wrong, any time.In post 1854, Titus wrote:@TV, I never gave one. I was saying my claim was fake all along. ika is someone who I play with and he frequently gambits. I was saying I was claiming cop tomorrow to draw a nightkill and create the very scenario I was explaining, considering no one was listening to me.
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In post 1855, Turkish Van wrote:
Looking at the table, a Mafia RB and a Mafia BP mean that the in-between move is either on Town Cop or Town Gunsmith with a flipped Town Roleblocker. The ambiguity of your claim makes me think you were actually trying to smoke out the last town PR. Do explain why I'm wrong, any time.In post 1854, Titus wrote:@TV, I never gave one. I was saying my claim was fake all along. ika is someone who I play with and he frequently gambits. I was saying I was claiming cop tomorrow to draw a nightkill and create the very scenario I was explaining, considering no one was listening to me.
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I can't even see how that would draw out the last town PR. My claim was not ambiguous at all. I specifically said I was claiming town cop tomorrow, and I crumbed my own claim was bullshit. The only players capable of understanding me were you, Antihero (conftown) and possible Marquis. Everyone else wouldn't understand it at all. It literally was a no risk plan, but of course if it nets me scum it's a good idea.
You also look solid for being scum based on VCA. The wagon surrounding you at the start of the day is off.
My only concern is this being too easy.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Big hand? Lemniscate was the only one whose lynch I really strongly pushed.In post 1840, Antihero wrote:
khan has a big hand in that, but i don't know if he's scumIn post 1837, Turkish Van wrote:Looking at the flips, that we got 50% of the Mafia before Day Two and none of them since then indicates that something seriously wacky is going on with the scum hunting here. I don't have a good sense of the game rhythm here, but it seems very likely that we have groupscum directing a lot of the scum hunting somehow. I'll be looking for that in my reread.
Agreeing with you on the zMuffinMan though. But we've banked a lot of time, mind as well start using it to read the game and build good cases.
How in the world would it net you scum?In post 1857, Titus wrote:I can't even see how that would draw out the last town PR. My claim was not ambiguous at all. I specifically said I was claiming town cop tomorrow, and I crumbed my own claim was bullshit. The only players capable of understanding me were you, Antihero (conftown) and possible Marquis. Everyone else wouldn't understand it at all. It literally was a no risk plan, but of course if it nets me scum it's a good idea.Occasionally intellectually honest
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yeah, and that wagon laid a huge fart. AND you forced an atmostphere yesterday where it was either going to be Lemni or nobody because you were so goddamn stubbornIn post 1859, Kublai Khan wrote:Big hand? Lemniscate was the only one whose lynch I really strongly pushed.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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it wouldn't have. titus was obviously fakeclaiming to draw the scum kill. i knew it at the time, but didn't say a word.In post 1859, Kublai Khan wrote:How in the world would it net you scum?
considering this is a multiball game, and there's no mafia BP, i actually think that's really townThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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I actually said that in reference to your incorrect ideas about how the setup is determined- the four roles on the chart are determined in one fell swoop, or one move, from start to finish. It's not determined by hopping from one point to another, which totally negates the point of the setup because that would allow for any combination of a random four on that chart.In post 1841, Turkish Van wrote:
:rolls eyes: I have exactly two games here in 75+ where I've bussed a partner. One was Open 459, one of my first games on site, and Day One bussing led to a town romp. The other was Mini 1527 where I was utterly screwed anyways and took a Hail Mary on living another day (and definitely shouldn't have). Get a better working theory, please and thank you.In post 1838, Marquis wrote:You're not SK, you're mafia.
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I think that because of your interpretation you probably aren't the Serial Killer, who would know about the powers in play already and consequently wouldn't come to the mistaken conclusion that you did, or even think of potentially faking that sort of conclusion about the game setup. Again, there's a slim possibility you faked not knowing how roles were determined, but at this point I'm just going to take whatever process of elimination puzzle pieces I can get.link in bio-
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True. But I sat through a couple of fruitless town lynches so I felt maybe I should be more forceful with who I wanted lynched.In post 1860, Antihero wrote:
yeah, and that wagon laid a huge fart. AND you forced an atmostphere yesterday where it was either going to be Lemni or nobody because you were so goddamn stubbornIn post 1859, Kublai Khan wrote:Big hand? Lemniscate was the only one whose lynch I really strongly pushed.
Well, I figured it was a fakeclaim, because no cop is stupid enough to promise result tomorrow. But if it worked and he got NKed, I don't see how that would net him scum.In post 1861, Antihero wrote:
it wouldn't have. titus was obviously fakeclaiming to draw the scum kill. i knew it at the time, but didn't say a word.In post 1859, Kublai Khan wrote:How in the world would it net you scum?
considering this is a multiball game, and there's no mafia BP, i actually think that's really town
Do you think it's town because he might have drawn a cross-kill?Occasionally intellectually honest
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Oh I wish that sheer stubbornness could actually force a my way or the high way Antihero.In post 1860, Antihero wrote:
yeah, and that wagon laid a huge fart. AND you forced an atmostphere yesterday where it was either going to be Lemni or nobody because you were so goddamn stubbornIn post 1859, Kublai Khan wrote:Big hand? Lemniscate was the only one whose lynch I really strongly pushed.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Only scum would feel scared of me the way I was playing early on.In post 1863, Kublai Khan wrote:
True. But I sat through a couple of fruitless town lynches so I felt maybe I should be more forceful with who I wanted lynched.In post 1860, Antihero wrote:
yeah, and that wagon laid a huge fart. AND you forced an atmostphere yesterday where it was either going to be Lemni or nobody because you were so goddamn stubbornIn post 1859, Kublai Khan wrote:Big hand? Lemniscate was the only one whose lynch I really strongly pushed.
Well, I figured it was a fakeclaim, because no cop is stupid enough to promise result tomorrow. But if it worked and he got NKed, I don't see how that would net him scum.In post 1861, Antihero wrote:
it wouldn't have. titus was obviously fakeclaiming to draw the scum kill. i knew it at the time, but didn't say a word.In post 1859, Kublai Khan wrote:How in the world would it net you scum?
considering this is a multiball game, and there's no mafia BP, i actually think that's really town
Do you think it's town because he might have drawn a cross-kill?
TA's hyper defensiveness is a little more understandable given they were the cop.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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do what now?In post 1863, Kublai Khan wrote:Well, I figured it was a fakeclaim, because no cop is stupid enough to promise result tomorrow. But if it worked and he got NKed, I don't see how that would net him scum.
Do you think it's town because he might have drawn a cross-kill?
if it worked and titus got NK'd, we'd have one more cop result.
...this really isn't that hard to understand, khan, are you being intentionally dense?The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Also, at first I trusted Turkish Van's application of self meta on the idea that scum wouldn't risk doing it. Then I realized that I'm too lazy to check it and on policy don't like it because I still have the feeling Turkish Van is mafia.
The idea that you don't bus that often, and therefore didn't bus now, is one that I don't just like on policy, but that I also don't like because it sounds way too much like a probability fallacy.link in bio-
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Ah. I'm not paying that much attention to the setup. I didn't know for sure if there was a cop. I thought it was just bluster.In post 1867, Antihero wrote:
do what now?In post 1863, Kublai Khan wrote:Well, I figured it was a fakeclaim, because no cop is stupid enough to promise result tomorrow. But if it worked and he got NKed, I don't see how that would net him scum.
Do you think it's town because he might have drawn a cross-kill?
if it worked and titus got NK'd, we'd have one more cop result.
...this really isn't that hard to understand, khan, are you being intentionally dense?Occasionally intellectually honest
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My gut based on the VCs says to lynch TV or jbomber... all three scum not bussing day 1? How rarely does that happen?
TV imo my gut says more likely SK based on end lynch VCs
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I didn't either at the time. I was just trying to bait a kill really.In post 1870, Kublai Khan wrote:
Ah. I'm not paying that much attention to the setup. I didn't know for sure if there was a cop. I thought it was just bluster.In post 1867, Antihero wrote:
do what now?In post 1863, Kublai Khan wrote:Well, I figured it was a fakeclaim, because no cop is stupid enough to promise result tomorrow. But if it worked and he got NKed, I don't see how that would net him scum.
Do you think it's town because he might have drawn a cross-kill?
if it worked and titus got NK'd, we'd have one more cop result.
...this really isn't that hard to understand, khan, are you being intentionally dense?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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