Open 473: Jungle Republic GAME OVER

[uctriton00]

Damn right I die Night 1.

Haters gonna hate.

[Alduskkel]

GG all

Haven't read most of the game, but I assume Majiffy did 99% of the work*, so I'm very happy for him. Sorry for not being as active as would have been ideal. (lol understatement)

Thanks to Josh for modding, though I think 3 week deadlines were a bit excessive.

*The 1% is whatever ridiculous interactions I threw out there that benefited our team

[Majiffy]

Dang. Nice shot. Did you have me figured, or was it a lucky guess?

I spent about 4 hours reading uct and Rob's ISOs over and over looking for associative tells.

I saw a lot of anti-associative tells with Rob-HD.

Still felt like a potshot though.

[Majiffy]

In fact I sent some frenzied PMs to Josh asking for him to confirm if I won or not before he opened the thread, lol.

[Human Destroyer]

I saw a lot of anti-associative tells with Rob-HD.

I was kinda wondering why you were even bothering to push a Rob/HD team to be honest

I thought it was pretty obvious we

weren't

a team

[Majiffy]

Needed to keep myself from getting lynched, which meant keeping all my options open.

[Rob14]

I thought I had done a good enough job of dropping a few associative tells with HD. Guess not. I tried to do some shit in that direction, but meh. Did the same for the ol' jiffy.

BTW. Re:HD's style of "scum-hunting"

You claim that when you find scum it's because you tunnel. Guess what? When you don't find scum, it's also because you tunnel. In fact, based on the games I've played in with you, you tend to tunnel on townies quite often and refuse to use new evidence to alter your reads. This is bad play, plain and simple.

Which is better: a day 1 read or a day 4 read? Because when you tunnel from day 1 to day 4 on a single player, you're basically deciding that you prefer your day 1 read over developing a day 4 read. Obviously your day 4 reads are much better than day 1, though, because you have more info at your disposal. This is true for any day numbers. The longer you've been in the game, the better your reads will become. This is why you HAVE to keep analyzing new information and be willing to adjust your reads.

Your big tunnel this game was Tajun-wolf. Guess what: Tajun wasn't a wolf.

Your big tunnel in the 3p LyLo we were in together was, well, I forgot who it was. But you voted someone you decided to tunnel on in 3p LyLo instead of me without any discussion as soon as the day started, which serves to demonstrate how you play as if you aren't willing to analyze new info. What's worse is that I KNEW you did that based on just a few prior games, which means that I could use it to my advantage to win the game. Trust me, I'm not even close to the skill level that some players on this site are. I consider myself fairly middle-of-the-road. If I can read you like that after only a game or two, then at least half of the site can do it too. The longer you play, the more you'll run into situations where players' meta knowledge of this weakness in your play leads to losses.

You favor old reads over new ones. Until you stop doing that, you will not be able to improve very much as a player. Not trying to bash you, just trying to help a bit.

[Rob14]

By the way, I'm not saying that's what caused a town loss here. There were many other things that did that. I'm just pointing it out because you defended your tunneling earlier as the best way to find scum for you, which is horribly wrong.

[Tajun]

Dang. Nice shot. Did you have me figured, or was it a lucky guess?

I spent about 4 hours reading uct and Rob's ISOs over and over looking for associative tells.

I saw a lot of anti-associative tells with Rob-HD.

Still felt like a potshot though.

Good to know. I was wondering if 4nx's excellent analysis on me had finished us off, or if it was something else. He is definitely my choice for town MVP, lynched or not.

Here is the maf QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/49/H/ieVrGBe9Aru

Nothing too exciting. Apparently I did consider Majiffy a possible wolf day 1 (forgot about that ). A couple points for players:

Whiskers: You were obvtown, for anyone who knows your meta. Like really,

really

obvtown. Never ever vote yourself as town, but other than that you got a pretty bad time this game, most of it undeserved IMO. Don't argue every bloody point though, pick your battles better.

Sky: Sorry if I came off as too big of a dick.

Majiffy: You played well, and deserved it. Wouldn't have hurt my feelings if you had missed though. Bold move day 1 (2?) directing the seer.

Thor, HD was a counter to Ald, but it wasn't initiated by Ald, so how does that remove the likelihood of him being a wolf?

In other news, Whiskers still looks worse than Sky, and everyone who was screaming at me for being a jerk for opposing Whiskers and pushing Sky is now pushing Sky and opposing Whiskers.
Is this some sort of new game meta where it's just 'call Thor scummy no matter what he does and then do the opposite' playstyle?

Is this some sort of new game meta where it's just 'call Thor scummy no matter what he does and then do the opposite' playstyle?

Yeah I've actually got everyone but you in a QT and we're giggling like schoolgirl over this. Took you long enough to catch on.

It would explain a lot.

This is officially my favourite set of quotes I have ever read on this site.

That's about all I've got. Is there a dead players QT?

[Tajun]

Oh, also thanks to Josh for the modding, everything went smoothly.

[Majiffy]

Oh, also thanks to Josh for the modding, everything went smoothly.

^^^

[Alduskkel]

Werewolf QT... consists entirely of me trying to coach dividizzle and then looking stupid when he replaced out AND I end up being the one who gets lynched Day 1

woo

[Majiffy]

Oh we had a QT?

[Thor665]

The final alignments explain a lot

[Majiffy]

Sorry to let you down, Thor.

[Sky]

Thanks Josh for hosting and congrats wolves!

Tajun no hard feelings man haha, it's mafia for chrissake.

[uctriton00]

why did I have to die Night 1 btw

[Majiffy]

IIRC you looked townie as shit to me and I figured you were never getting lynched.

But I can't be certain on account of the fact that there's no record of my thoughts in the QT and it was a long time ago.

[uctriton00]

#ego +1

Also good job to whoever it was who called out the correct scum team.

[Thor665]

Sorry to let you down, Thor.

Nah, I had what you were doing pegged as scummy. I just figured you would never be so blatant as scum.
Live and learn.

I'll lynch you next time, and will probably end up doing some town mislynches of you (as town *and* scum) citing this as reasoning whenever you do anything that is openly horrible

[Majiffy]

When you're the last scum on your team at day start the second day phase, the tendency is to push your luck as far as you can...

[Thor665]

Yeah, and it worked beautifully for you. I'm just ashamed I fell for it.

[Majiffy]

Yeah I doubt I'll be able to pull something like that off again with this playerlist.

[Rob14]

Yeah I doubt I'll be able to pull something like that off again with this playerlist.

lolno

[Tajun]

Haha probably not, but that's a real shame. I had a lot of fun reading your posting this game.