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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:23 am

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In post 19, pisskop wrote:
In post 16, Dunnstral wrote: And why is that?
well for one it implies that Im just a VT
I don't really like the confspec either, but I'm not sure how it implies that any of the replace outs are VT.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:24 am

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In post 19, pisskop wrote:
In post 16, Dunnstral wrote: And why is that?
well for one it implies that Im just a VT
Why would this make you super not stoked about what he's saying and then why does that lead to a vote?
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:24 am

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In post 2, Ausuka wrote:
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You are a Traitor.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.

Your partners are X and Y, but you cannot talk to them unless you are recruited. If you are the last Mafia left alive (and are still a Traitor), you will be endgamed.

The game thread is here.

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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:25 am

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In post 26, Black wrote: why does that lead to a vote?
I jumped on the back of an existing vote to spur discussion
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:26 am

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Like I'm not sure why someone implying you are a VT would aggravate you like that
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:27 am

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In post 24, pisskop wrote: Im not claiming anything
Then what's the problem

Scum have brains and can find these implications themselves, and we know they have day talk so they can discuss role spec in their PT instead of out in the open
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:31 am

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VOTE: davesaz
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:39 am

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Maybe this setup shouldn't have a confirmation phase. It's probably not too bad if you open the thread when you send out updated PM's and ask people to confirm before they post.

That way you can avoid these icky mid-pregame replacements entirely.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:40 am

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It's been too long since I've played with Dunn but I think this kind of spec is something he might do as a scum tactic.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:47 am

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VOTE: pisskop

I think if this flips red then SS could be partnered
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:49 am

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In post 34, Black wrote: I think if this flips red then SS could be partnered
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:53 am

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I don't really like how SS showed up and didn't say anything about pisskop and the conversation going on with him. sorta feels on-the-fence regarding Dunn's motives which isn't really scummy by itself but in this situation it feels like he might be trying to get ahead of the pisskop wagon and pre-emptively alleviate some pressure there
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:54 am

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The statement is implied. Just as Dunn implied the repouts were VT
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:55 am

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And furthermore, they call to meta. Which is more interesting than any defense you feel might be happening.
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:56 am

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Obviously this is just a gut feeling based on another gut feeling so I don't have much confidence in it atm
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:57 am

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In post 38, pisskop wrote: And furthermore, they call to meta. Which is more interesting than any defense you feel might be happening.
Wdym?
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:59 am

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What is implied?
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:00 am

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davesaz is the only slot that has posted so far that i feel is greater than rand to be scum

black feels towny
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:04 am

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In post 36, Black wrote: I don't really like how SS showed up and didn't say anything about pisskop and the conversation going on with him.
Do you really think I should be sharing my opinion on whether or not pisskop is VT?
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:05 am

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No, but I guess I just thought you should have some opinions on his reactions and his vote on Dunn
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:06 am

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Happy to see shaddowez is back, btw. I think it's been literally seven years since we've played together.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 am

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In post 44, Black wrote: No, but I guess I just thought you should have some opinions on his reactions and his vote on Dunn
I understand why pisskop would be uncomfortable with Dunn's comment regardless of alignment. It is a pretty gross thing to be speculating on.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 am

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Dann feels townie based simply on the fact that he has played two games with me very recently, one where I was scum and one where I was town, and I think he's the type of player to be able to read me well, even early on. Saying I feel townie could be like a psuedo-pockety thing but I want to believe he's just accurate town here
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:10 am

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Dann that reminds me, I wanted to ask you something. I might as well ask it here even though it's not related to the game. How much did you compare my play between Mini Normal 2313 and Open 885 while they were ongoing? Did playing with me in those games simultaneously have any effect on your read on me in either game?
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:11 am

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In post 47, Black wrote: Dann feels townie based simply on the fact that he has played two games with me very recently, one where I was scum and one where I was town, and I think he's the type of player to be able to read me well, even early on.
That is a bold claim. Then again, it's page 2, we don't really have non-bold ones.

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