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Post Post #3625 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:10 am

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has dave done anything townie yet?
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Post Post #3626 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:11 am

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In post 3601, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 3592, davesaz wrote: If Bellaphant has scumreads, then vote them rather than asking others who they prefer.
I did! Not sure why the issue is with my vote specifically rather than enchants or pythons, but whatever.

With furtive specifically, he isn't approaching me in good faith. Neither are you: you see my pint about gamma, FB agrees, you ignore it in order to continue to shade me. It's also just ....weak, because are you really implying that it's scummy, that I can't fake reads as scum?

Compare for example how you and furtive have discussed me compared to rce, Ney and yessiree.
Furtive: Bella's just scum because?? But I won't engage and sort her
You: Bella's scum because she's....talking to people?
Rce: Bella might be town but I tr her too easily, I'm gonna leave this to others
Yessiree: I disagree with Bella's takes. Oh, I could see this being a legit thought process really
Ney; Bella.doesnr have a ton of content but I can see solve motivation

Which ones look like genuine, thought out takes to you?

Also, I'm less convinced about the votes on Titus meaning as much as we thought, as people were trying to give her a break for RL. I am still convinced that votes on the counter wagons are scummy. I CBA to check right now but furtive deffo had some weird votes last day phase (as did Dave, I hadn't realised he'd voted me yesterday??)
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Post Post #3627 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:13 am

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In post 3625, usesPython wrote: has dave done anything townie yet?
Every fucking thing I've done in this game has been townie.
I promised myself that I'll stop reacting to shit like this the way I used to react to it.
Therefore I'll leave off what I really think about all of you and leave it at that.
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Post Post #3628 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:15 am

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Scum can be found on the Dragon wagon.
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Post Post #3629 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:29 am

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In post 3627, davesaz wrote:
In post 3625, usesPython wrote: has dave done anything townie yet?
Every fucking thing I've done in this game has been townie.
I promised myself that I'll stop reacting to shit like this the way I used to react to it.
Therefore I'll leave off what I really think about all of you and leave it at that.
Maybe worded that wrongly. We're mostly looking for sets of posts that either show you didn't know someones alignment (e.g. the stuff we're tring naerys for) or otherwise deeply wouldn't be done by scum you (e.g. the stuff we were tring DE for), with the caveat that scum you wouldn't think to fake that kind of thing (for obvious reasons therefore it's probably not something you'd be able to point out to us)
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Post Post #3630 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:31 am

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In post 3626, davesaz wrote:
In post 3601, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 3592, davesaz wrote: If Bellaphant has scumreads, then vote them rather than asking others who they prefer.
I did! Not sure why the issue is with my vote specifically rather than enchants or pythons, but whatever.

With furtive specifically, he isn't approaching me in good faith. Neither are you: you see my pint about gamma, FB agrees, you ignore it in order to continue to shade me. It's also just ....weak, because are you really implying that it's scummy, that I can't fake reads as scum?

Compare for example how you and furtive have discussed me compared to rce, Ney and yessiree.
Furtive: Bella's just scum because?? But I won't engage and sort her
You: Bella's scum because she's....talking to people?
Rce: Bella might be town but I tr her too easily, I'm gonna leave this to others
Yessiree: I disagree with Bella's takes. Oh, I could see this being a legit thought process really
Ney; Bella.doesnr have a ton of content but I can see solve motivation

Which ones look like genuine, thought out takes to you?

Also, I'm less convinced about the votes on Titus meaning as much as we thought, as people were trying to give her a break for RL. I am still convinced that votes on the counter wagons are scummy. I CBA to check right now but furtive deffo had some weird votes last day phase (as did Dave, I hadn't realised he'd voted me yesterday??)
In absolute honesty, I don't
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I have to go back and read to know what your stances are.
Even when I do go back to read, I don't see the
why
of most of the things you're saying.
This sounds like a you problem.

Ask me questions if you want.
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Post Post #3631 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:33 am

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In post 3614, Naerys wrote:
In post 3602, Firebringer wrote: So challenge for Naerys:
Go through my iso and I just want you to comment on all my takes on yourself. Can be anything just what you think I am doing/ur personal thoughts on my position/is it real-fake/possible opportunism. If you think i am smelly doody head, w/e. Just give me ur thoughts on how I have read and talked about yourself. I think this will be best I get for informing my read on you.
I am not going through that million posts of yours. I refuse to be bullied into this.
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Post Post #3632 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:47 am

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In post 3630, Bellaphant wrote: This sounds like a you problem.

Ask me questions if you want.

How about your thoughts on ?
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Post Post #3633 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:49 am

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In post 3630, Bellaphant wrote: This sounds like a you problem.
Also I reject this. If you aren't making yourself clear, that's your problem not mine.
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Post Post #3634 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:01 am

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even if people agreed with your premise that scum were counterwagoning to Dragoneater. They still want to know why individual X is the most likely scum doing it. What makes them scum doing it.

So like you might be clear in the opinion that SCUM WERE COUNTER WAGONING TITUS
But what isn't clear is why any individual is scum for doing it. Why there can't be town counterwagoning. Etc


So like why not start there dave
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Post Post #3635 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:13 am

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Yeah, you first babe.
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Post Post #3636 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:29 am

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I'm voting Firebringer for a reason.
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Post Post #3637 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:50 am

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do you have a convincing argument for why firebringer is mafia
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Post Post #3638 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:25 am

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In post 3637, Aristeia wrote: do you have a
convincing
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besides he was voting Dragoneater
fixed that for u
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Post Post #3639 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:09 am

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In post 3638, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3637, Aristeia wrote: do you have a
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besides he was voting Dragoneater
fixed that for u
you are overwhelming and you discredit honest effort
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Post Post #3640 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:14 am

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i don't want to yell and shout at u, because ive been annoyed way too much in this silly game of mafia.

lets go with i agree with everything you say about me. Ur doing great effort.

I would like more of your wisdom, please can you help me the moron and big meanie by telling me what you think of everything I said about my read/progression on you.
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Post Post #3641 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:15 am

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In post 3640, Firebringer wrote: i don't want to yell and shout at u, because ive been annoyed way too much in this silly game of mafia.
yeah, basically this
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Post Post #3642 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:16 am

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I have no delusions about being convincing. Convincing people of things is not my forte.

Being town I know any push on me is wrong. Pushing solely on "bussers" and completely ignoring the CWs is indicative of having an agenda to exclude the people voting the CW from suspicion.
I feel like Firebringer's position on that CW and voting pattern D1 along with his approach to today is the strongest fit to that agenda.
Focusing on "giving Titus time" as the indicator of "bussing" reinforces this, especially when I'm extremely well known for wanting to give people time and Firebringer must know this from past games.
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Post Post #3643 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:20 am

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okay theres something about my approach here. That will not get me to get people to talk to me in a way that gets me anything useful.

I will not be annoyed at responses to me anymore. I know fully expect the way I am engaging is somehow the problem. I am not doing something right here to get people to be helpful to me.

So I don't know what I am doing wrong. Probably being too snappy. Maybe I should just throw compliments out with everypost. Idk

Anyways this is to say.

I am done with this day for time being.

@mod V/LA till friday


I will be around but I am not actually getting a useful dialogue out of this game. Expect low effort for awhile till i figure out how i want reproach this game.
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Post Post #3644 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:22 am

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Claiming scum the entirety of D1 looks like a joke but I feel very confident it's something he could do as scum to look town, and do it with impunity.

The two votes together that someone thought looked like it was just conversation vibing could have been planned, and in the case of Titus and Fire it's exactly the type of thing I think they would plan from experience in prior games. (TBF I might not have seen it from them as a pair before but I'm 100% certain I've seen that kind of planning from Titus and maybe 75% certain I've seen it from Fire)
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Post Post #3645 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:22 am

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VOTE: Naerys
Can move dave up my reads list and put Naerys down.
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Post Post #3646 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:23 am

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In post 3642, davesaz wrote: Being town I know any push on me is wrong. Pushing solely on "bussers" and completely ignoring the CWs is indicative of having an agenda to exclude the people voting the CW from suspicion.
ok but why can't a town player genuinely believe that the entire scum team was bussing and not counterwagoning?

why is that indicative of an agenda'd scum player?

for example I know I am town and I think it's more likely mafia were bussing titus than counterwagoning to save her because titus had largely given up and didn't even bother to play.
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Post Post #3647 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:24 am

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In post 3644, davesaz wrote: Claiming scum the entirety of D1 looks like a joke but I feel very confident it's something he could do as scum to look town, and do it with impunity.
yes and it's also something he does as town because he thinks it's fun.
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Post Post #3648 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:25 am

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Clarification/addition to 3644, I think Titus would plan both the conversation and the votes, and plan a time to be here together to make it look like it just happened live.
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Post Post #3649 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:29 am

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In post 3602, Firebringer wrote: So challenge for Naerys:
Go through my iso and I just want you to comment on all my takes on yourself. Can be anything just what you think I am doing/ur personal thoughts on my position/is it real-fake/possible opportunism. If you think i am smelly doody head, w/e. Just give me ur thoughts on how I have read and talked about yourself. I think this will be best I get for informing my read on you.
In post 3605, Firebringer wrote: Nayers - Queen of Sloth. Possible Scum. Not feeling great about it. See my questions and stuff at her above posts.
In post 3604, Firebringer wrote: yessiree looks worse but the reasons again. They just seem superficial anyone can make doesn't make it fake just means I can see anyone coming up with this even a scum player.
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For your info: I am living like 3 years with deep depressions. I am using antidepressants and i am mostly stable but i have my mood swings. Could you kindly respect the fact that not everyone has energy, wits or w.e. to write tons of posts everyday?
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