large normal 219: COOL NEW ANIMALS (done!!)

[NotAnAxehole]

Also, you lied earlier. You said that I've only defended the sick wagon when I have defended both the Bob and Wizard wagon's. I prob defended Sky to but the previous two I can remember. I'm just going to defend any wagon that I don't like the reasons to.

Eh, you never actually pushed another wagon until recently.

[NotAnAxehole]

feels like nero is manipulating the gamestate

how so?

I mean, he's not wrong.

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: RuiRui

Maybe this will encourage some more thoughts.

She may not be active, but scum always jumps onto the counter wagon there because she is the other option for lynch today.

Town could be naive enough to think there is a chance to establish a better wagon.

[NotAnAxehole]

Does everyone want to force a quick lynch on town!RuiRui? Because tbh, I'm down to kill anyone as quickly as possible.

[NotAnAxehole]

Eh, I'll hammer whoever. I think it's Sickofit, Flavor Leaf and Nero Cain.

RosterFoster, highly doubt inactive player is overly committed to the wifom.

[NotAnAxehole]

That’s just total bs on your part no matter the alignment

Unfortunate that fumuki scum slipped before replacing out.

[NotAnAxehole]

well, i don’t feel like fighting this. I’m overgammed and modding two games right now, so do whatever.

Then vote Sickofit with us and let's lynch faster. What's the point of 2 week deadlines other than to make players replace out?

[NotAnAxehole]

You’re wrong lol.

Just like last game

[NotAnAxehole]

well, i don’t feel like fighting this. I’m overgammed and modding two games right now, so do whatever.

Then vote Sickofit with us and let's lynch faster. What's the point of 2 week deadlines other than to make players replace out?

To allow players who don’t post everyday to post more. Makes the games matter more too because of the time commitment. Also can be used as a tactic.

Well, it seems like the 2 weeks fails to accomplish its calling.

[NotAnAxehole]

So, let's vote Sickofit.

[NotAnAxehole]

You’re wrong lol.

Just like last game

Yeah, but I mean, it’s hard when you’re essentially a scum team of 1 in a crazy game.

And I’m vastly different here than I was there.

Coasting through the game until accused, say that you're busy with a whole bunch of other games and what not, so you haven't been able to properly follow up on this game. Then spew a bunch of posts once you've been accused claiming anything and everything.

Seems very different to me.

[NotAnAxehole]

Does everyone want to force a quick lynch on town!RuiRui? Because tbh, I'm down to kill anyone as quickly as possible.

Eh, I'll hammer whoever.

for someone that you are hard town reading you sure do give up quickly.

2 week deadlines are too long, I'd prefer you wagon against me.

[NotAnAxehole]

Aww... I was hoping we could got 24h with the mod as the most recent post.

Who's got the hammer?

[NotAnAxehole]

i believe that is L-1

I don't really know why you're not voting.

[NotAnAxehole]

Eh, all of the lurkers are scummy as fuck. I don't really understand how there are so many. Like, non-voting at this point in the day is so awful imo

[NotAnAxehole]

out of respect im giving sicko a chance at final words tbh

Eh, I feel like he gave them when he said he wasn't defending himself, but sure.

[NotAnAxehole]

not voting (2): RuiRui, EeveeLution Army

1 of these is lockscum, the other is not bothering to play

Sick/Eevee assocs + Eevees play is bad enough that I'd prefer a hard pivot to Eevee but either one of those 2 are fine

I work 50hr weeks hop off my dick about activity

That's my issue is that I feel like it's super scummy, but it can't be alignment indicative if there are more players in that situation than there are scum.

[NotAnAxehole]

lets just hammer sick so we can get another flip already

has sick claimed yet

He claimed VT

[NotAnAxehole]

Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Sickofit

It's about time

[NotAnAxehole]

it doesn't really matter if you are vt or not b/c you are gonna flip anyways. It's not impossible for me to see Axe powerwolfing and he should never ever make it to lylo but I could also see just really bad town that thinks he's better than his really is.

If you are scum then maybe he was bussing you. At the very least you were SCFTWR.

ruirui is scum.

Power lynch

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah I'm VT.

Please give Axe some more scrutiny this next day period, it would appease me to see his scum ass get lynched.

You just got lynched son, you dead

[NotAnAxehole]

I think we lynch Eevee tomorrow if Sickofit flips town.

[NotAnAxehole]

Honestly, it's so hard to tell who's who when most players don't post. We should just turbo lynch every round.

[NotAnAxehole]

i think we ignore you the rest of the game if he flips town.

Turbo lynching is the way to go.

[NotAnAxehole]

Lynch lynch lynch lynch.

[NotAnAxehole]

i think we ignore you the rest of the game if he flips town.

I mean, that would be a fair strategy, but I'm guessing you're just saying this because you're tired of being ignored.

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah I'm VT.

Please give Axe some more scrutiny this next day period, it would appease me to see his scum ass get lynched.

I wonder if he's trolling or doesn't realize he's been hammered?

[NotAnAxehole]

I think we lynch Eevee tomorrow if Sickofit flips town.

%^#%%#@$&@

Use words

[NotAnAxehole]

not voting (2): RuiRui, EeveeLution Army

1 of these is lockscum, the other is not bothering to play

Sick/Eevee assocs + Eevees play is bad enough that I'd prefer a hard pivot to Eevee but either one of those 2 are fine

I work 50hr weeks hop off my dick about activity

Maybe. If Sickofit flips scum, we lynch Flavor Leaf. If he flips town we lynch Eevee. Turbo wagon on either would do the trick.

[NotAnAxehole]

Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Sickofit

Yeessssssssss. Yeessssssssss @Sickofit

[NotAnAxehole]

Vote count 2.4

Sickofit1138 (4):

NotAnAxehole, nomnomnom, Skygazer, Performer

RuiRui (4):

NerfedBuJ, Nero Cain, Flavor Leaf, rosterfoster

bob3141 (1):

Sickofit1138

Skygazer (1):

bob3141

EeveeLution Army (1):

KidAmn

not voting (2):

RuiRui, EeveeLution Army

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. day 2 ends may 22nd at 10:40 central US time; in (expired on 2019-05-22 10:40:00)

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Where is the lock?

[NotAnAxehole]

not really. I just care about playing to my wincon and having you out and lynch a bunch of town isn't helping towns wincon.

We'll see if I was originally right about sick or if I was right to be cautious d2.

I think he's trolling, if he's town I doubt he even posts there.

[NotAnAxehole]

I care about killing as many people as possible, and having them know I drove the bus over them.

[NotAnAxehole]

I think Sickofit coming to post was his scum buddies wanting to get some twilight distance.

[NotAnAxehole]

If I'm wrong, at least I got to drive a bus over two people, so that's satisfactory for me... In case town turns on me, I've already got my fill of death and suffering.

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm just kidding, I want more. I hope Sickofit flips scum so that we can run over Flavor next.

[NotAnAxehole]

it doesn't really matter if you are vt or not b/c you are gonna flip anyways. It's not impossible for me to see Axe powerwolfing and he should never ever make it to lylo but I could also see just really bad town that thinks he's better than his really is.

If you are scum then maybe he was bussing you. At the very least you were SCFTWR.

ruirui is scum.

Power lynch

Yeah I'm VT.

Please give Axe some more scrutiny this next day period, it would appease me to see his scum ass get lynched.

You just got lynched son, you dead

I think we lynch Eevee tomorrow if Sickofit flips town.

i think we ignore you the rest of the game if he flips town.

Turbo lynching is the way to go.

Every post you've made since Sick was hammered has made me more and more sure you vs Nero is TvS and I'm honestly not 100% sure it's not just both of you gish galloping this game (or something close to it) at this point.

Yeee Nero is scummmm

[NotAnAxehole]

good luck trying to get me mislynched. As an added challenge you can't fakeclaim or hint at a guilty.

Don't fake claim and I won't have to expose you.

[NotAnAxehole]

Is there a world where Nero + Notan is Scum theatre? Probably not right?

[NotAnAxehole]

Deaaaaath

[NotAnAxehole]

The mod resigned, we need to fend for ourselves.

Sickofit has been lynched, he was Mafia.

Night 2 begins.

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: Eevee

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: ruirui

[NotAnAxehole]

TURBO

[NotAnAxehole]

lets all ignore this guy and lynch rui rui today. Although if there was enough ppl that wanted Axe dead I wouldn't object that much.

VOTE: ruirui

I want axe dead.

[NotAnAxehole]

4 more and I'll hammer you. but real talk, I don't really understand why you feel like any of this is good town play.

I don't

[NotAnAxehole]

We're still not lynching Axe?
Nice game.

I'm IC

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah so is the mod

I'm not voting today unless it's axe.

I'm a town mason, it's been hinted at so much, also the reason I knew Roleblocker was super unlikely because there was a lack of anti-town utility, lack of utility for scum too knowing that town mason was the big power on the town side.

[NotAnAxehole]

Like, is anyone the least bit surprised that I'm a town mason?

[NotAnAxehole]

Axe/performer/sickofit/roster/rui/bob

Contains sll scum.
If axe flips town then nom is the scum.

What if I told you, I could get someone in this game to confirm that this list is wrong?

[NotAnAxehole]

This day is better than I could have ever hoped for.

[NotAnAxehole]

as bad as they are, and they are worse than they claim they are, I'm not lynching claimed masons today.

Not only claimed masons, but I demonstrated my power day 1 by weeding out a fake claimed PR.

[NotAnAxehole]

This gives me a bad feeling as you have certain people in your townblock and put me as an sr.

I really hate this.

It's obvious he didn't actually read the post (where Sky pointed out that he wasn't really a SR), he takes a very small quote, starts throwing shade without really committing to a read, then disappears when Sky clarifies it.

I think Bob is town due to the FL kill honestly. FL's been correctly calling all the town mislynch-bait and it makes sense for scum to remove him since he'll resist a Bob lynch.

I mean Bob being scum isn't impossible. I agree with you that he's been opportunistic and hasn't really been offering original opinions but the guy is new and new players are just gonna seem scummy, idk.

Bob needs to post a full reads list with reasons why when he gets on.

I feel like this is trying to set up a Bob mislynch for later, like changing to 'Oh well it seems like he was just abusing his newness after all' type of thing. Sky just pushing for a Bob lynch is townie as I'd expect scum to wait until everyone has forgotten about FL. I believe her claim too.

I also believe the mason claim (do we seriously think scum Nom/Axe hint at masons D1?).

So that gives me town of Me/Nom/Axe/Bob/Sky/Buj.

So scum in Nero/Performer/Kid/Rui/Eevee

There's no way the D2 wagon was all town, and it's scummy af for Nero to even suggest that.

If it's Nero/Perf RuiRui isn't a partner as I don't think they go all megalol bus at this stage. I'd say Eevee is more likely as Nero was directing Axe away from Eevee at the start.

But I'm not going to be able to confidently draw associations until I get a flip on Nero or Performer.

VOTE: Performer

I agree with this actually, but maybe we should let Nero bus his buddy before going off onto someone else...

Or we just lynch Nero today?

[NotAnAxehole]

Oh and I don't think you're right on performer.

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: NotAnAxehole
I don't buy the claim and if you're not scum, you've done a fantastic job of fucking all of us over and giving scum a free win. My vote isn't moving today.

Wanna sheep me for 2 more votes and then we can decide if I threw?

[NotAnAxehole]

It's performer, bob/roster, kid/rui

Performer
Roster > bob
Rui > Kid

That's with the laughable assumption that all 3 of axe, nom and nero are town.

I agree

VOTE: Nero Cain

Lets TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[NotAnAxehole]

Okay guys, let's all jump on the wagon together....

ONE.

LAST.

TIME!

[NotAnAxehole]

Scum is in the same place I said yesterday. Turbo lynch whoever you want, I'm just not interested in this game if yall are gonna follow Axe off a cliff any more.

Woah Woah Woah.

It sounds like you're ruining the game for yourself, we need more positivity in this thread.

Nero for president, get your votes in now!

[NotAnAxehole]

oh idk what went wrong there

I think we only do good things when you're on the wagon, so I suggest you vote Nero Caaaaaaaaaiiiiiiinn

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: bob

Nero is setting up the Bob lynch like he set up the other mislynches. He knows we would probably flock to Bobby

[NotAnAxehole]

Or again, axe himself for a pretty easy wifom clear

There is no wifom friend.

[NotAnAxehole]

as bad as they are, and they are worse than they claim they are, I'm not lynching claimed masons today.

Being bad, better than being mad

[NotAnAxehole]

@rosterfoster sheeeeeep meeeee

[NotAnAxehole]

And having all town on a day 1 wagon is an advanced level scum play not a play from the scumteam who doesn't kill one of 4 "conftown" players.

And axe wanted to lynch FL so if the scumteam didn't know FL why would they be worried that town can't mislynch FL? This points to people who actually know that FL would never have been lynched by someone like axe.

Actually, fact: I got FL lynched in the previous game we played, turns out that being loud is a good way to fucking lynch loud people.

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm still not voting anyone except axe in protest. You'll play this day without me if nobody wants to listen.

VOTE: Axe

This is a democracy, you are free to vote who you will, but know this... You will lose knowing that I was right on this day, and you... Were wrong.

[NotAnAxehole]

I feeeeeeeeeeel aliiiiiiiiivvvvve

[NotAnAxehole]

So, we have 5 conf town players at 11: Skygazer, BuJ, NotAnAxehole, anonymous and anonymous... I think Nero's protection of Bob means Bob is town if Nero is scum, so if we successfully lynch Nero, we end up with 5 conf town in 9 players and it's auto.

We should be able to win this almost every time. If we mislynch today, we drop to 4 confirmed town on 9 players. 75% hit, then 67%, then 50% (and that suggests the absence of reads.

[NotAnAxehole]

In fact, lynching bob is always a bad play here because the last two players Nero defended flipped town. Today he's soft defending me and Bob which basically just confirms that he believes my claim and that Bob is also likely town.

Lynching Nero seems like the best play for an automatic 5v4

[NotAnAxehole]

If we're wrong on Nero, it's no worse than if we're wrong on someone else. If we're right on Nero, we win.

[NotAnAxehole]

I think we should all lay out our PoE and lynch order, since it is very much applicable at this stage of the game. Several players should see a near-auto win, so it's important for us to figure this out now.

So how it works is, we are at 11, lay out your 5 next lynches in the order which they occur. I will go last because I don't want to give away my mason friends until we've heard from everyone, then everyone can re-evaluate once the masons are announced.

So how it works:

NotAnAxehole -> Wagonomics -> TheWizard -> Flavor Leaf -> Sickofit

Obviously, if you don't have a PoE of 5, then this is less relevant to you, but if you don't have a PoE of 5, you might as well just sheep at this point.

[NotAnAxehole]

Anyone want to set up a claim order? I think Nero Cain should go first.

[NotAnAxehole]

every time i read a post SRing buj/nero/axe/nom i just feel more and more this is going to be a definite town loss

why is it that as soon as i post this the game goes further into shit mode

I'm mostly trolling, but if you have 1 correct town read, your PoE is auto.

[NotAnAxehole]

Same with BuJ for that matter.

[NotAnAxehole]

If the 5 of us can agree on 1 town who agrees on us, this game is over.

[NotAnAxehole]

So, actually, Skygazer, BuJ, myself and the two masons should game solve.

[NotAnAxehole]

nero is my strongest non clear townread so uh

What do you think Nero is missing on Bob?

[NotAnAxehole]

Everyone should give their top town reads outside of the conf town circle

[NotAnAxehole]

nero is my strongest non clear townread so uh

We can probably agree that eevee and ruirui go straight into the PoE of 5 right?

[NotAnAxehole]

Rooster is my top town outside of the confirmations.

[NotAnAxehole]

I don't see scum optimistically jumping into this conversation like that.

[NotAnAxehole]

So I would vote that the three masons +Skygazer +BuJ side with RosterFoster

We systematically vote the other 5. If we miss on the first two, then we can call the level of confirmation into question, but we aren't really likely to do that.

[NotAnAxehole]

feel like nero has been playing to his usual town self tho tbh

That's ok, but do you think Nero is more town than RosterFoster?

[NotAnAxehole]

So, that's where I'm at. If we can get a universal town read on rosterfoster, I don't really care what order we go down the PoE in, it's auto unless Skygazer is scum, and if that's the case, I'll take the loss.

If we miss on the first two which is 60% and 75%, I'll take the loss at LyLo.

[NotAnAxehole]

All of the masons will be claimed today, so there's no tricks or nonsense. If we're scum, you just hit us 7, 5, 3.

[NotAnAxehole]

If axe and nom flip town masons schadd should stop having mason setups they've just killed the whole schtick.

I kind of agree with this, because masons should mostly just dick around and narrow the PoE until they can claim for an auto. Which sucks for non-masons that don't like playing around.

[NotAnAxehole]

could you imagine if i was scum thatd be hilarioussssss

I would love it. It would be the most epic end of game reveal.

[NotAnAxehole]

could you imagine if i was scum thatd be hilarioussssss

So, how do you feel about rosterfoster?

[NotAnAxehole]

roster's town
nero around the same level

i think we lynch bob/rui/eevee/amn today

I'm ok with that PoE of 4 as long as we add Nero to it, the order makes no difference to me.

@BuJ, @Rosterfoster

Can you both get onboard with that PoE of 5?

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: rui

since i guess no one fuckin wants to go for bob rn

I'm fine with bob tbh, I just want to make sure everyone is onboard, because this really should be auto.

UNVOTE:

[NotAnAxehole]

BuJ and Rosterfoster, I'd like to hear from you, then we can pull the trigger on a ruirui lynch or other from the 5

[NotAnAxehole]

OK, well let's just roll with that, I'm good with RuiRui going first

VOTE: RuiRui

[NotAnAxehole]

THat's L-1 I believe.

[NotAnAxehole]

@Rosterfoster you're right.

I guess you can hammer and we can close out this PoE one by one.

[NotAnAxehole]

I don’t want to hammer until we hear from Bob and RuiRui

What we hear from the PoE doesn't matter, what we hear from BuJ matters more. The PoE is the PoE and will always be the lynches. The order doesn't matter

[NotAnAxehole]

@Shadd

[NotAnAxehole]

I don’t know about you but I’d rather lynch the scummiest of the POE first.

Now granted we’re probably not going to hear anything from RuiRui but still

Honestly, it doesn't matter at this stage if you trust me, if you decide that I'm scum at 7, it's an easy 1-2-3, since you know everyone I share a PT with.

[NotAnAxehole]

Though, a scum team doesn't aggressively call the lack of roleblocker because they have no way of knowing... Mason team of 3 makes roleblocker pretty much impossible on this player count in a normal game.

[NotAnAxehole]

Nero Cain, KidAmn, Eevee, Bob

Can you all full claim / make cases? Just so that we can better determine the order of the PoE.

[NotAnAxehole]

All the masons claim and verify each other and then choose one of you to sacrifice.

Only then am I able to move on and play along.

If you say we have the mislynches to do it then do it.

There's already a hammer today.

[NotAnAxehole]

We can revisit this at LyLo imo, the game is auto if we catch 1 scum, since there are 3 scum vs 3 masons. 1 flip confirms all 3. If RuiRui flips town, we lynch Nero Cain for the incorrect push, if he flips town then you choose who to believe at 7... This was heavily hinted at, the knowledge that we would have from being masons was put to use on a fake claim... I mean, I don't know why you need more proof tbh.

[NotAnAxehole]

Also, if we're not masons, then there should have been a bunch of PR claims today disproving us... There weren't. There is no mason counter claim. There's nothing. This game is not 12 VT vs 3 scum.

What is there left to claim? There's no roleblocker, there's no cop... Tell me, other than mason, what town roles are in this game?

[NotAnAxehole]

3 masons vs 3 scum is balanced at 3 scum vs 10 town.

This is 3 scum vs 12 town. Scum need more power. Roleblocker has no negative utility against masons, so it's more powerful than usual, so Scum would have to be super decked out... Like I don't even know what roles you would give scum to balance that in a normal game. You already have to balance them being behind 1 lynch.

There's no cop because 1) no miller, 2) no claim in the first 3 days, seems unlikely and highly sus..

What town roles are left?

[NotAnAxehole]

It's not that it's impossible, it's just in a game with 3 masons and a roleblocker 12 vs 3, scum should always lose unless the roleblocker claims and gets lynched for wifom.

[NotAnAxehole]

Town roleblocker is better suited in a game with tracker/cop so that there is negative utility to balance it.

[NotAnAxehole]

Well, if I say there's no roleblocker in the game because of role reasons and no one tries to 1v1 me for it day 2, then there is no roleblocker.

And that's the thing, masons remove the anti-town component of roleblocker... Because mason isn't an active role.

[NotAnAxehole]

Put it this way . If you're scum you just win this game now unless we lynch.

So if you're town I'm sorry but this is a terrible time to claim.

Why? I don't see any reason anyone would think we're scum and we've narrowed down the PoE sufficiently that we only lose to scum!skygazer. Like... I don't really see the issue with us claiming now especially with the strong possibility that the wagon could flip on me today.

[NotAnAxehole]

I feel like you're way too flustered about this BuJ You're conf town, we're all on the same team.

[NotAnAxehole]

I tried to get you lynched on the merits of my own posting and I failed then I helped you lynch town faster to prove how dangerous you are and it still didn't get you lynched so whatever. I'll count this as a personal loss if you're town and move on to the next game but I refuse to play along with something I don't believe.

Honestly, the main loss is probably taking a game seriously when it's filled with over 50% lurkers or when it's played on mafiascum. I had no intention of ever taking this game seriously and I'm not disappointed with the result. It looks like we're going to get a win to boot.

[NotAnAxehole]

Lol. No scum caught, let's go into LyLo that way. What a joke of a statement.

VOTE: Nero Cain

[NotAnAxehole]

Unless there are significant plausible PR claims today lynching claimed masons is absolutely ridiculous

[NotAnAxehole]

So, the correct play here is PRs all claim, we lynch the least likely claim. If they flip PR, you know exactly who scum team is at LyLo... They won't though because Masons are the power here.

[NotAnAxehole]

So Roster fakeclaimed mason...again

Roster is not mason

[NotAnAxehole]

So Roster fakeclaimed mason...again

Roster is not mason

which order did you check them in

[NotAnAxehole]

Scums are trapped. As long as we do not lynch the mason claims this is an easy win. Don't be stupid.

Scum has already claimed today, we're just waiting for confirmation.

[NotAnAxehole]

PT for details.

@Eevee, please claim order so that we can continue with the mass-claim.

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah, so there is insufficient town power to deny the existence of masons, so we confirm us and lynch from the PoE as we have all game.

@Nero Cain I'm a mason, this game is just about PoE, so you talk shit about the town lynches all you want... Your lynch pick from the poe was RuiRui. Your play has been garbage this game and it's probably because you're scum, since the PoE is incredibly narrow. But it doesn't matter if you're scum because we just lynch from the PoE and win.

VOTE: kidAmn

[NotAnAxehole]

Also, Nero if you want to 1v1 me, which I'm sure you will.. do it today or forever hold your peace.

[NotAnAxehole]

Nero should claim first, his claim list sucks especially since one player on his list is already claimed.

[NotAnAxehole]

axe eevee is confscum

PoE is PoE the order doesn't matter, but I'm just going off the group discussion.

I'm not sure I see the conf scum though, can you elaborate?

[NotAnAxehole]

eevee claimed motion detector and they claimed they investigated nero last night with no motion but i used my thing on nero last night so their claim is a lie

Motion detector detects both source and destination of the motion?

[NotAnAxehole]

nom, axe, bob.

Bob is not even one of the three claimed masons...

[NotAnAxehole]

you'd rather we verify the guilty then? Fairly sure kidamn is 100% scum but I'm not too hung up on the order here.

id rather lynch a hard guilty then a player that could (very unlikely) flip town

From your PoV, from everyone else, 1 of you is scum and 1 of you is town, so that clears the three masons automatically, which makes KidAmn's claim absolutely ridiculous (also because Bob is not the third mason).

So, hitting away from you is 67% scum for everyone else, except for the townie who it's 100% for.

I want votes.

Bob, kidamn, Nero Cain & Roster Foster. You each have a 67% chance of guessing scum among you. Throw your votes down.

[NotAnAxehole]

lol, axe is such a salty nooblet

Victorious nooblet maybe

[NotAnAxehole]

you'd rather we verify the guilty then? Fairly sure kidamn is 100% scum but I'm not too hung up on the order here.

id rather lynch a hard guilty then a player that could (very unlikely) flip town

From your PoV, from everyone else, 1 of you is scum and 1 of you is town, so that clears the three masons automatically, which makes KidAmn's claim absolutely ridiculous (also because Bob is not the third mason).

So, hitting away from you is 67% scum for everyone else, except for the townie who it's 100% for.

I want votes.

Bob, kidamn, Nero Cain & Roster Foster. You each have a 67% chance of guessing scum among you. Throw your votes down.

I messed up my player count, it's not 100% for any one townie

[NotAnAxehole]

Confirmed town at 100% certainty (due to the conflicting data from Skygazer and eevee - this is either SvS or TvS - probably the latter)

NotAnAxehole
Nomnomnom
Performer

50/50:
Skygazer
Eevee

50/50
Nero Cain
Bob
Kidamn
RosterFoster

[NotAnAxehole]

We have 1 mislynch left, so we need two town reads.

[NotAnAxehole]

just for shits and giggles why am I scum?

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Please just give your reads and throw down your vote within the PoE based on my last post which you clearly didn't read, if you come back with questions after reading it, refer to above statement.

[NotAnAxehole]

UNVOTE:

[NotAnAxehole]

R
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pc police gonna throw a hissy fit.

I'm also voting the claimed guilty today.

That makes no sense, you don't know that person's alignment, it's a 50/50 for you. Seems like TMI.

Voting within the 4 gives you a 67% shot AND, if you happen to miss, our chances of lynching successfully on any given day are no lower than 50%

[NotAnAxehole]

Voting into the 4 is always the correct move here which makes me think Nero is scum

[NotAnAxehole]

If skygazer is scum, she is lying.

[NotAnAxehole]

R
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not an ok word

It's certainly a word.

[NotAnAxehole]

and here we go again, following Axe off the cliff, this time with added D4 setup spec
UNVOTE:
do what you want, I'm out

I'm not pushing you, I didn't push RuiRui either. lol

[NotAnAxehole]

but you were perfectly ok with a rui wagon.

PoE is PoE, I don't care about the order of the PoE

[NotAnAxehole]

is performer the 3rd mason?

Honestly, I don't really know that I want to announce the third mason right now.

[NotAnAxehole]

its not super important right now but the scum team is kid, bob and performer or kid, bob and roster.

The latter seems likely at this point.

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah, Kidamn being mad at this game because of bad town is...

...

...

Yeah, the word isn't coming to me, but he really needs to look in the mirror.

[NotAnAxehole]

Not desperate scum. Tired of this game. If anyone else had pushed town towards 3 mislynches after promising to full claim and get in the noose themselves if they were wrong about the 1st of them, people would be all over them. Axe is playing y'all hard, but nobody can be bothered to scumhunt. Peace out.

Lmao, I only pushed 2 lynches.

Kid, smh... You hardly played, everyone is having a hard time reading this game because of people like you.

Man, this guy...

[NotAnAxehole]

Crying on your death bed because we didn't lynch a mason is hilarious.

[NotAnAxehole]

Skygazer claim first please

[NotAnAxehole]

Actually it doesn't matter, Skygazer you believe eeeveee's claim right?

[NotAnAxehole]

So, nom and I are IC

I would like everyone to comment on whether they believe Eevee's claim

[NotAnAxehole]

The crumbs and the class make 0 sense together. What gives me pause is that Skygazer came into today trying to confirm Eevee's alignment when it was already confirmed the day before (due to the Nero situation)... Yes a roleblocker could have interfered, but this seems like theater.

[NotAnAxehole]

It also lines up with "you would never guess my partner if I'm scum"

[NotAnAxehole]

eevee wasnt confscum to me until amn flipped and perf flipped

Yet you still waited for her result today.

[NotAnAxehole]

You only considered that after though

[NotAnAxehole]

Tbh, that claim seems unlikely given that you were strategizing a way to confirm Eevee as scum. I would expect town to actually think it through first, not after.

[NotAnAxehole]

Eh, Eevee is scum no matter how we look at it tbh, I just am pointing out I don't think that makes you town.

[NotAnAxehole]

i mean its just i wish axe would post his thoughts

I don't really see why people are asking the IC questions, I think it's more productive to let the potentially scum talk.

[NotAnAxehole]

So, I would lynch Skygazer, Eevee or RosterFoster today, those are people I would hammer if they reached L-1

[NotAnAxehole]

Obviously, if skygazer and Bob flip scum, I'll be pretty upset at townies who detailed those wagons, especially Skygazer, I really don't feel she's done enough to demonstrate she's town... The 1v1 with eevee felt forced which make me think it's SvS. (Which would be a good play because the logical thing is to shoot away from the 1v1)

RosterFoster hammer hesitation on RuiRui is clearly scum.

Eevee soft claims don't make any sense in relation to her hard claim. Her role has no bearing on the target's alignment other than if that player performed the kill... In fact, the very fact the Eevee goes along with the plan that Skygazer proposed is really scummy because 1) it was a bad plans and 2) Skygazer is almost certainly scum from eevee PoV

[NotAnAxehole]

I think Skygazer's 1v1 with Eevee was TMI (and also potentially scum theater)

[NotAnAxehole]

YAY!

?

[NotAnAxehole]

honestly, I feel like its Sky and I don't really see that changing but I'll vote whomever you want me to vote so I can blame you guys if I'm right or win the game if I'm wrong. win win 4 me!

Heheh. I just said something similar about sky in PT

[NotAnAxehole]

I think we’re gonna lose this game because people are treating Nero as town.

Like I get I made some shitty decisions this game but town Nero would be WAY more angry about stuff like Wizard happening D1. Instead he just kind of let it happen.

I've never thought Nero's play to be townie this game, but that can be said of everyone including me. This whole town is one colossal failure.

[NotAnAxehole]

I mean you're just upset. Other than being fairly wrong most of the game I've done nothing that's scummy but ok w/e

I'm actually tired, not of this game, but I'd say that's more what I'm feeling this morning.

[NotAnAxehole]

There is a difference between a healthy skepticism and trying to get them lynched.

You do realize that there was also confirmed town that was pushing him right?

Why is it so hard to believe that town me was skeptical of the claim b4 performer's death confirmed them? By your logic buj and kid are both scum, then how come they flipped town?

Thats bit of logical falsey. First I am infact being pushed by everyone apart from eve.

And who has been the most vocal for my lynch.

In fact you saying no one is pushing this lynch is in fact pushing that lynch. Posted after you have many statements advocating for my lynch.

ppl calling you scum=//=wagon.

Maybe there is no wagon because you're scum team is waiting for either nom, axe or eve to vote for me so you can quicklynch me so you can win the game.

And since you are claimalso that sky is scum yet haven't voted for him is telling as it looks to me like you don't want to hammer you scum partner.

As there are 3 votes on sky and I know i am town that means sky can't possibly anything but scum in mind as why hasn't scum hammered him.

The only possibilities is either that sky is scum or the impossible because from my perspective I know Im town and sure eve is town. And that is that all those voting for sky must be scum as why wouldn't he of been hammered. As it only takes one townie to vote for him

Therefore, sky is scum and your his scum buddy.

There are not 3 votes on sky I think?

UNVOTE:

Just in case

[NotAnAxehole]

Laying a vote here is a scum claim, I think we just fry rooster and eat chicken tonight.

[NotAnAxehole]

Holy shit Nero.

Maybe they’re both scum.

VOTE: Sky

Sky/Eevee/Bob

Lol

[NotAnAxehole]

fuckkkkk if it isn't obvious that i'm the designated mislynch by now then idk what to tell you

This is a terrible post

[NotAnAxehole]

Friends & Enemies with no town PRs would be town favoured in this player count.

[NotAnAxehole]

Also @Nero do you believe Sky and Eevee could be bussing each other and setting this whole thing up?

i've already said the OR points to not bussing today and the only way that it could be bussing is that is town Sky votes scum Evee and scum Roster wants to bus Evee and buddy Sky.

bussing between Eevee - skygazer is far stronger though because it drives the lynch to the other players, which have more town than scum. I'm not sure what the likelyhood of this is, but my god they're both scummy...

[NotAnAxehole]

conveniently i just had a scum game end where my play was like the polar opposite of what it was here if anybody wants to read it

Nop

[NotAnAxehole]

So, let's assume Skygazer is town, that means both Eevee and RosterFoster are confirmed scum, there is no world where Skygazer can be town with either of them. She would be dead.

If Eevee is town, there is no way that Skygazer is also town... because she would be dead.

[NotAnAxehole]

So, let's assume Skygazer is town, that means both Eevee and RosterFoster are confirmed scum, there is no world where Skygazer can be town with either of them. She would be dead.

If Eevee is town, there is no way that Skygazer is also town... because she would be dead.

not following the logic of how id be dead here over a mason

scum count = 3, votes to hammer = 4. If you have 1 town vote, you just coordinate in the PT to hammer 1-2-3.

[NotAnAxehole]

tbh, I'll probably hammer the first person to reach L-1

[NotAnAxehole]

Do it sky

[NotAnAxehole]

I don't believe you're tilted. Prove me wrong.

[NotAnAxehole]

Sky has tried to appeal to emotion way too much this game tbh.

[NotAnAxehole]

lets hope we are right nom

theres no hope for you. roster is 100% scum to you.

Yeah, this comment from Nero is a scum claim.

[NotAnAxehole]

LOL Is Eevee actually town this game?

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm flipping town but go ahead and lynch me.

You don't believe in the sky/eevee theatre and you don't know for sure that bob and rosterfoster are scum. At some point, you need to take a stand. I'm tempted to vote Nero Cain just because he has more experience on this site than anyone here and if he's town, it's a deserved loss.

I've made my bed, I'm ready to lay in it.

VOTE: Nero Cain

[NotAnAxehole]

you are a fucking moron

I FEEL ALIIIIIVE

[NotAnAxehole]

I have reported you for your terrible terrible behaviour. BAD BOY Nero

[NotAnAxehole]

now that town can win this shit i will NOT let a mason who hasnt lynched correctly all game lose this

Seems to me, you don't have a say in the matter

[NotAnAxehole]

Sky, hammer yourself or drop the act.

[NotAnAxehole]

UNVOTE:

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: nero

town doesn't derve this

SOOOOOOOOOOOO MAAAAAAAAAAAD

[NotAnAxehole]

Nero following through on skygazer's threat is cute.

[NotAnAxehole]

Also, @Sky, that's how you do it.

[NotAnAxehole]

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SELF-VOTE AND TILTING PLAyERS I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT

Sky is not tilted, she's scum.

[NotAnAxehole]

What is the vote count?>

[NotAnAxehole]

Axe is just a toxic kid

You're an angry American.

[NotAnAxehole]

nomnom if you masons would just decide already between me and sky people wouldnt be annoyed

One could argue, that's the point.

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: roster

get your act together

What about, no.

[NotAnAxehole]

i'll vote Sky if Axe and Nom want to go there, I'll vote Evee if that's where they want to go too.

You vote where you want to go buddy.

[NotAnAxehole]

oh my god are you going to listen to axe?? wow!

scum!nero

[NotAnAxehole]

I hard claim scum roleblocker now vote me

lmao

[NotAnAxehole]

There's no roleblocker ya drum drum

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: Eevee

[NotAnAxehole]

UNVOTE:

[NotAnAxehole]

its a part of it

this game is just a stressful fucking disaster and i should've repped out D1

Never too late!

Honestly, let's just kill someone. Lol

[NotAnAxehole]

Nom lead us!

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: bobby

[NotAnAxehole]

So how much do we meme before I claim who I'm voting for?

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: Nero Cain

[NotAnAxehole]

Nero + Rooster are scum. but uhmm, just for fun... Why rooster over bob Eevee?

[NotAnAxehole]

you are wrong. and i didnt care who died first

You and bob are voting rooster, so either you and bob are scum or Nero and rooster are scum...

[NotAnAxehole]

It's Nero + Rooster

[NotAnAxehole]

Oh, anyway. Whatever, Nero dies tomorrow regardless of who the NK is.