Newbie 1728: Training Your Dragon Mafia [Game Over]

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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:33 am

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*with experienced players.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:40 am

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Agreed, PhanthomCobalt.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:41 am

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Just a correction for question 1, it should be 1645 to 2245 from Mondays to Fridays.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:18 am

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Can those without avatars please consider getting one?


It makes it much easier to differentiate between your posting, IMO. Honestly an avatar of anything will be awesome. Thanks!
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:18 am

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Experienced players can second me on this too.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:19 am

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In post 46, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 45, RyanK wrote:Well, you aren't over reacting, so he has already see that you could handle pressure quite well.
Experienced players never over react to RVS wagons, because they know they are 99% not going to be lynched.
True, unless it's L-1 in a Newbie game lmao. I'm pretty sure this has happened before, where someone got to L-1 and a newbtown hammered on accident.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:23 am

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Dragon Training Tip #2: Food. Its always good to have food around when you are training your dragon. Not only for yourself, but also to make sure you dragon doesn’t consider you on the menu when it starts getting hungry! Dragons prefer fish, but their appetite can vary, just try not to convert your dragon into a vegan. They won’t like that...


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Reso (L-5):
DistructiveNick (L-4): Reso,
Rusty (L-4): PhantomCobalt,
omnyx (L-5):
RyanK (L-5):
innocentvillager (L-4): hiplop
PhantomCobalt (L-4): Maverick1102
Maverick1102 (L-5):
hiplop (L-3): innocentvillager, RyanK,

Not Voting (3): DistructiveNick, Rusty, omnyx,


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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:26 am

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In post 41, hiplop wrote:
In post 32, reso wrote:Another considerably-more-hare-brained meta reason RQS is that it would allow veteran players to gauge a newer player's attitude and playstyle. It's too meta and inconsistent to actually be called a legitimate reason, but the possibility exists.
Yea this is what I use it for. For example your list of pizza toppings tells me a whole lot about you than I would normally have to guess. A lot of scumhunting has to do with understanding perspectives of where a person is coming from :]

I apologize I can only check in quick here. More in 6-8 hours :P
So if I tell you my favourite pizza is Hawaiian, how does that affect how you read me?

Because honestly, I strongly feel this is fluff and distraction. Same from IV.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:28 am

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IV, people can change their own meta if they're aware of it (as hiplop is). I would never teach newbies to follow that kind of information and I think your vote is there for either misplaced reasons or I haven't fully understood them.

Could you clarify? Is your vote based on Hiplop's self-meta?
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:29 am

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To clarify, the above is in reference to IV's #17
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:33 am

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In post 57, Maverick1102 wrote:Because honestly, I strongly feel this is fluff and distraction. Same from IV.
Like I said, I've used this type of stance on common tells to catch people in scumtells/self-contradictions before. If everyone answers these questions, scum can no longer bullshit scumtells that aren't in accordance from what they said at the beginning of the game. It confines everyone to a framework.

Like if you said lurking is NAI but then attacked the lowest poster, I'd be pretty suspicious. Stuff like this happens. That would imply scum is not being sincere in their scumhunting.
Maverick1102 wrote:IV, people can change their own meta if they're aware of it (as hiplop is). I would never teach newbies to follow that kind of information and I think your vote is there for either misplaced reasons or I haven't fully understood them.

Could you clarify? Is your vote based on Hiplop's self-meta?
Dude my was a joke, lmao. I don't actually have a read on hiplop.

I am more than aware that people can change their meta, intentionally or not.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:38 am

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Have you no stronger reads for voting yet?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:50 am

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In post 61, Maverick1102 wrote:Have you no stronger reads for voting yet?
not really
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:47 am

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Guys id like to see less theory and more scum-hunting, even if it's just poking for reactions, do it
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:01 pm

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In post 44, RyanK wrote:
In post 6, innocentvillager wrote:...
3) Lynch "all" liars or no?
....
Maybe not,
for example, innocentvillager drew a very powerful role.
He should lie about it and do whatever he needs to so he won't be a night-kill targer. This creates a WIFOM, though, and he may get killed.
To me, this part feels incredibly weird. You could be actually using an actual example, OR you slipped and told us that IV has a powerful role in this game, and the only way you could possibly know that is if you knew what IV is before the start of the game. It's also worth noting that IV has noted you as having a very minor TR in Post 38, despite not having had contributed anything gamewise prior to said Post 38.

If RyanK and IV are both mafia, then who would I like to see out first......

UNVOTE: DistructiveNick
VOTE: innocentvillager, just purely on the fact that I feel like the Too Townie Fallacy is going to hit me harder from IV than RyanK.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:23 pm

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I'm kind of 50/50 about if that slip was AI or NAI
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:24 pm

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Ryan mentioning innocent specifically is very sketchy though, if anything id vote Ryan before innocent
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:29 pm

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Also a nice feature I forgot to point out before reso used it, the post button in the very bottom right of the tag bar links the post number to the actual post for easy navigation for people reading your posts
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:30 pm

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In post 64, reso wrote:To me, this part feels incredibly weird. You could be actually using an actual example, OR you slipped and told us that IV has a powerful role in this game, and the only way you could possibly know that is if you knew what IV is before the start of the game. It's also worth noting that IV has noted you as having a very minor TR in Post 38, despite not having had contributed anything gamewise prior to said Post 38.
Lmfao, yep you caught the scumteam already, gg.

He was replying to my comment, I don't see why him using me as an example is so sketchy. If he had said anyone else's name, then YEAH that's weird as shit.

Why does it matter that I have a very minor TR on Ryan?
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 68, innocentvillager wrote:Why does it matter that I have a very minor TR on Ryan?
Prior to your Post 38, these were RyanK's only posts:
In post 9, RyanK wrote:I'll vote randomly. VOTE: hiplop
In post 10, RyanK wrote:UNVOTE: hiplop VOTE: innocentvillager. The name looks too innocent.
In post 13, RyanK wrote:
reso wrote:
In post 11, PhantomCobalt wrote:1. Those aren't random questions.

2. Why are you so defensive from the start?
I apologize, but to whom are you referring to?
To answer your question, he(PhantomCobalt) is most likely (PhantomCobalt should know better) referring to innocentvillager as
innocentvillager wrote:
RQS! (Random Questioning Stage)

I know, SE's...
In post 15, RyanK wrote:Thanks for the help, hiplop. It's already 11 here. I'd better go get some sleep now. Goodnight everyone regardless of their time zone.
In post 16, RyanK wrote:*11 p.m.
How/why did you get a very minor TR from this devoidness of game help?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:51 pm

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In post 69, reso wrote:How/why did you get a very minor TR from this devoidness of game help?
Just got a general feeling that was trying to engage with the game, and honestly I gave a townpoint or a half for him when he switched votes soon after his first post, which showed some fearlessness.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:52 pm

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V/LA until Friday
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:22 pm

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In post 70, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 69, reso wrote:How/why did you get a very minor TR from this devoidness of game help?
Just got a general feeling that was trying to engage with the game, and honestly I gave a townpoint or a half for him when he switched votes soon after his first post, which showed some fearlessness.
Fearlessness against what exactly? His initial vote and vote switch was pretty much back-to-back and it was still RVS. What's there to fear in RVS? Are you to be feared then? The only ones to be feared in this game are the ones with that kill without warrant.
In post 68, innocentvillager wrote:He was replying to my comment, I don't see why him using me as an example is so sketchy. If he had said anyone else's name, then YEAH that's weird as shit.
Another interesting thing about his response to you is that despite responding to you, he refers to you in a third person perspective. Why would he do so? Because I think you and RyanK are mafia, I will assume that this was him trying to distance himself from you while you attempt to make him look better than he has actually done with your 'very minor TR'.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:21 pm

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IV does bring up a good point, I did not notice his reply was to iv'S original questions
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:44 pm

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In post 73, PhantomCobalt wrote:IV does bring up a good point, I did not notice his reply was to iv'S original questions
How is that a good point? To me, it's neutral, I don't see anything good nor bad about it.

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