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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:08 am

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In post 492, Thor665 wrote:
In post 491, Thor665 wrote:Can you show me an example of his scummy bandwagoning that he did like nuts?

Especially since I just looked.
He voted three people in three days - and those were the first three days of the games.
One of the votes was himself.
Sooooo, bandwagony. :neutral:
Looking forward to this one being explained to me.


No, that was an RVS self-vote; the serious votes he made were bandwagoning.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:08 am

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In post 89, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:
In post 31, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Siv's self-vote was a strained attempt for scum to say "hey i don't care about being lynched!"

Serious scum read right now.


Um, can I point to this? You think I'm scum, then have a major problem with majiffy wanting to flip/lynch me?

Do you still think I'm scum?

UNVOTE: Siverruer Trickedup
VOTE: Ornicusthe_original

In post 161, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Hrmmph.

I can accept the newbtownness of ornicus.

FT is bad though.

VOTE: fourtrouble


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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:11 am

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In post 491, Thor665 wrote:And by 'people' you mean 'top scumspect'?


No, but "them" does.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:27 am

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In post 499, Thor665 wrote:@Rach - why do you think Human is townish?
Also - justify your current vote pl0x.


In post 497, pirate mollie wrote:#430 is a good start

but #437 was funnier

and then of course there was this post that I am responding to.

red flags everywhere

Guess you got me dead to rights.

Describe what it is I'm dodging again for the slow kids in class?


thinking I did. :P

you claimed that I dodged a question that you never asked. that is scumtell #1

you then dismiss what my response was to your accusation with a lack of response to what I actually said. scumtell #2

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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:47 am

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HD, those aren't very bandwagony. The first one is a decent reaction to the events, the second is the same shift everyone else made. I guess an argument could be made that the second is "bandwagony" if you want to stretch it, but it certainly isn't scum or town aligned; I can see the play being made from either alignment.

Mollie, Thor hasn't actually been that scummy. Leave him be for a while and we'll see how town does with two of us alive. You never know, we just might lynch all the scum back to back.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:45 am

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Explain the scum maneuvering behind either vote, or both?
Because this looks weak as hell.

In post 503, pirate mollie wrote:you claimed that I dodged a question that you never asked. that is scumtell #1

you then dismiss what my response was to your accusation with a lack of response to what I actually said. scumtell #2

you don't have it in you to be mean

1. People agreed there was an implicit question there, if I am scummy so are at least two other players for this. Are they?
2. Your response was a dodge - you should be well aware of how I react to those when I'm town.

Remind me again how bad of a scum player you think I am? <-- this is a question I want answered.

@Majiffy - why do you think Mollie is town?
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:52 am

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Interactions with me in the early-game. Possible buddying but she's not the kind to keep her composure well as scum so if she is, she'll be easy to read by the time we see a few flips, anyway.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:06 am

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The only town game I've seen her in was yours, where she flipped her questionable composure as town.
You see that as normally not indicative as much?

Also, she's calling me scum for saying she dodged a question, and then is suggesting I dodged...'something' and acting like she's brilliant with that attack. When all past interactions she had with me should be that I'm a good (and sexy bearded) scumhunter, and with that as a concept she thinks these Playschool scum tells are viable somehow...?

She looks terrible.

Remind me of the awesome earlier interactions that I'm sure I'll read any day now?
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:09 am

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No her flipping out is typical, but her scum flipping out and her town flipping out are different.
She's a meta scumhunter, she doesn't play with you and thus can't read you. So she's just kinda trying to use what she can to get reads off you.
I'll take a look and dig some up.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:13 am

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27 - Looking to me for reads on a player she doesn't know.
111 - Essentially voting FT because of his attack on me.

Not things I would expect her to do as scum. But as I said, if she is, it'll be blatantly obvious eventually.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:14 am

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That's just the early stuff. I'm sure she's done more since then
but frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:18 am

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Hurm...

She's "played" with me twice now, how much meta does she really need? Also, really, a derp side slap is her alternate method of choice?
Your reasons for getting a town read look weak to me, and it's not even enough buddying for me to rule you two out as a pair.

Are you susceptible to buddying to give town reads?
I know I am, are you?
Because this looks weak, whassup Majiffylube?
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:21 am

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A lot. She relies heavily on alignment-dependent tells that vary from player to player, which means she needs to pick up on them first.

If someone buddies me I'm more likely to give them a pass till late-game, sure. Particularly if they sheep my votes.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:36 am

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WOuld you expect the sort of derp case she's coming at me with from a town Mollie?
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:39 am

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Yeah, but I'm not sure if that's town-dependent or null. Only game I can remember her as scum is a game where I bussed her d1 so it wasn't like I had to actually read her.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:58 am

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I'd accept null as the answer there, which is good enough.
I know she does bad cases as scum, I was curious if she did as town.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:01 am

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SO BASICALLY IF THERE ARE ANY INVESTIGATIVE ROLES YOU SHOULD, I DUNNO.


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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:12 am

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In post 505, Thor665 wrote:
In post 503, pirate mollie wrote:you claimed that I dodged a question that you never asked. that is scumtell #1

you then dismiss what my response was to your accusation with a lack of response to what I actually said. scumtell #2

you don't have it in you to be mean

1. People agreed there was an implicit question there, if I am scummy so are at least two other players for this. Are they?
2. Your response was a dodge - you should be well aware of how I react to those when I'm town.

Remind me again how bad of a scum player you think I am? <-- this is a question I want answered.

@Majiffy - why do you think Mollie is town?


1. voided agreed with you. that was it. and I found it funny.
2. my response was not a dodge. you suggested I sheep you. I didn't. there wasn't a question in it and you are making shit up.

so I am basically scummy for independent thought? lol

I haven't played against you when you have been scum so I have no idea "how bad of a scum player" you are. what I know is that right now you are looking pretty scummy. for reasons I have stated.

that was also a loaded question which is scumtell number #3

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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:18 am

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In post 515, Thor665 wrote:I'd accept null as the answer there, which is good enough.
I know she does bad cases as scum, I was curious if she did as town.


well if my case is so bad that even a dummy can understand it then will have trouble pointing out how it is so. do you know what a bad case looks like? yours on hd. as in you don't have one and when you have been questioned about it you are saying it should be obvious.

go ahead thor. convince me you are town. you sure as hell don't look like it. but I seriously doubt anyone will have the balls or the ovaries to lynch you other than me.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:27 am

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In post 504, Majiffy wrote:HD, those aren't very bandwagony. The first one is a decent reaction to the events, the second is the same shift everyone else made. I guess an argument could be made that the second is "bandwagony" if you want to stretch it, but it certainly isn't scum or town aligned; I can see the play being made from either alignment.

Fairly sure the 2nd one is bandwagoning.

Psst, Mollie, they aren't scumtells if the tells aren't true.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:32 am

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In post 518, pirate mollie wrote:well if my case is so bad that even a dummy can understand it then will have trouble pointing out how it is so. do you know what a bad case looks like? yours on hd. as in you don't have one and when you have been questioned about it you are saying it should be obvious.

You have noticed that I did explain it explicitly at this stage, right?
The rest of your posting is too terrible to bother with.

Why do you think Human is town?
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:49 am

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In post 520, Thor665 wrote:
In post 518, pirate mollie wrote:well if my case is so bad that even a dummy can understand it then will have trouble pointing out how it is so. do you know what a bad case looks like? yours on hd. as in you don't have one and when you have been questioned about it you are saying it should be obvious.

You have noticed that I did explain it explicitly at this stage, right?
The rest of your posting is too terrible to bother with.


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okay maybe you do have it in you to be mean. :(

and no I have not noticed where you have given adequate answers to my questions/assertions and that is why I keep pestering you about them. the loaded question thing is a huge scumtell as you should know since you subbed in for me in a game where scum were dropping them left and right in lieu of actual dialogue. which is what you did and then you adding put downs on top of that makes you look even scummier.

I am not sure if hd is town or not. he is not the one I am trying to get a read off of at the mo. I followed his vote onto you cos you were looking scummy with your exchanges with him.

the only town motivated thing you have done during this game is asking other players for the reasons as to why they have the reads that they have. but it isn't enough.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:51 am

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In post 521, pirate mollie wrote:and no I have not noticed where you have given adequate answers to my questions/assertions and that is why I keep pestering you about them

...Yes he has? I don't need to be sheeping him to see that he's answered your questions.

In post 521, pirate mollie wrote:which is what you did and then you adding put downs on top of that makes you look even scummier.

That's null for him.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:52 am

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I stated a town read on you at least once in this game, Mollie. Thor asking why I had a town read on you is not a loaded question.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:52 am

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In post 522, Voidedmafia wrote:...Yes he has? I don't need to be sheeping him to see that he's answered your questions.
That's null for him.

Now this is unexpected.
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