In post 491, Thor665 wrote:Can you show me an example of his scummy bandwagoning that he did like nuts?
Especially since I just looked.
He voted three people in three days - and those were the first three days of the games.
One of the votes was himself.
Sooooo, bandwagony.
Looking forward to this one being explained to me.
No, that was an RVS self-vote; the serious votes he made were bandwagoning.
HD, those aren't very bandwagony. The first one is a decent reaction to the events, the second is the same shift everyone else made. I guess an argument could be made that the second is "bandwagony" if you want to stretch it, but it certainly isn't scum or town aligned; I can see the play being made from either alignment.
Mollie, Thor hasn't actually been that scummy. Leave him be for a while and we'll see how town does with two of us alive. You never know, we just might lynch all the scum back to back.
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Explain the scum maneuvering behind either vote, or both?
Because this looks weak as hell.
In post 503, pirate mollie wrote:you claimed that I dodged a question that you never asked. that is scumtell #1
you then dismiss what my response was to your accusation with a lack of response to what I actually said. scumtell #2
you don't have it in you to be mean
1. People agreed there was an implicit question there, if I am scummy so are at least two other players for this. Are they?
2. Your response was a dodge - you should be well aware of how I react to those when I'm town.
Remind me again how bad of a scum player you think I am? <-- this is a question I want answered.
Interactions with me in the early-game. Possible buddying but she's not the kind to keep her composure well as scum so if she is, she'll be easy to read by the time we see a few flips, anyway.
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The only town game I've seen her in was yours, where she flipped her questionable composure as town.
You see that as normally not indicative as much?
Also, she's calling me scum for saying she dodged a question, and then is suggesting I dodged...'something' and acting like she's brilliant with that attack. When all past interactions she had with me should be that I'm a good (and sexy bearded) scumhunter, and with that as a concept she thinks these Playschool scum tells are viable somehow...?
She looks terrible.
Remind me of the awesome earlier interactions that I'm sure I'll read any day now?
No her flipping out is typical, but her scum flipping out and her town flipping out are different.
She's a meta scumhunter, she doesn't play with you and thus can't read you. So she's just kinda trying to use what she can to get reads off you.
I'll take a look and dig some up.
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She's "played" with me twice now, how much meta does she really need? Also, really, a derp side slap is her alternate method of choice?
Your reasons for getting a town read look weak to me, and it's not even enough buddying for me to rule you two out as a pair.
Are you susceptible to buddying to give town reads?
I know I am, are you?
Because this looks weak, whassup Majiffylube?
Yeah, but I'm not sure if that's town-dependent or null. Only game I can remember her as scum is a game where I bussed her d1 so it wasn't like I had to actually read her.
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In post 503, pirate mollie wrote:you claimed that I dodged a question that you never asked. that is scumtell #1
you then dismiss what my response was to your accusation with a lack of response to what I actually said. scumtell #2
you don't have it in you to be mean
1. People agreed there was an implicit question there, if I am scummy so are at least two other players for this. Are they?
2. Your response was a dodge - you should be well aware of how I react to those when I'm town.
Remind me again how bad of a scum player you think I am? <-- this is a question I want answered.
@Majiffy - why do you think Mollie is town?
1. voided agreed with you. that was it. and I found it funny.
2. my response was not a dodge. you suggested I sheep you. I didn't. there wasn't a question in it and you are making shit up.
so I am basically scummy for independent thought? lol
I haven't played against you when you have been scum so I have no idea "how bad of a scum player" you are. what I know is that right now you are looking pretty scummy. for reasons I have stated.
that was also a loaded question which is scumtell number #3
In post 515, Thor665 wrote:I'd accept null as the answer there, which is good enough.
I know she does bad cases as scum, I was curious if she did as town.
well if my case is so bad that even a dummy can understand it then will have trouble pointing out how it is so. do you know what a bad case looks like? yours on hd. as in you don't have one and when you have been questioned about it you are saying it should be obvious.
go ahead thor. convince me you are town. you sure as hell don't look like it. but I seriously doubt anyone will have the balls or the ovaries to lynch you other than me.
In post 504, Majiffy wrote:HD, those aren't very bandwagony. The first one is a decent reaction to the events, the second is the same shift everyone else made. I guess an argument could be made that the second is "bandwagony" if you want to stretch it, but it certainly isn't scum or town aligned; I can see the play being made from either alignment.
Fairly sure the 2nd one is bandwagoning.
Psst, Mollie, they aren't scumtells if the tells aren't true.
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In post 518, pirate mollie wrote:well if my case is so bad that even a dummy can understand it then will have trouble pointing out how it is so. do you know what a bad case looks like? yours on hd. as in you don't have one and when you have been questioned about it you are saying it should be obvious.
You have noticed that I did explain it explicitly at this stage, right?
The rest of your posting is too terrible to bother with.
In post 518, pirate mollie wrote:well if my case is so bad that even a dummy can understand it then will have trouble pointing out how it is so. do you know what a bad case looks like? yours on hd. as in you don't have one and when you have been questioned about it you are saying it should be obvious.
You have noticed that I did explain it explicitly at this stage, right?
The rest of your posting is too terrible to bother with.
Why do you think Human is town?
okay maybe you do have it in you to be mean.
and no I have not noticed where you have given adequate answers to my questions/assertions and that is why I keep pestering you about them. the loaded question thing is a huge scumtell as you should know since you subbed in for me in a game where scum were dropping them left and right in lieu of actual dialogue. which is what you did and then you adding put downs on top of that makes you look even scummier.
I am not sure if hd is town or not. he is not the one I am trying to get a read off of at the mo. I followed his vote onto you cos you were looking scummy with your exchanges with him.
the only town motivated thing you have done during this game is asking other players for the reasons as to why they have the reads that they have. but it isn't enough.
In post 521, pirate mollie wrote:and no I have not noticed where you have given adequate answers to my questions/assertions and that is why I keep pestering you about them
...Yes he has? I don't need to be sheeping him to see that he's answered your questions.
In post 521, pirate mollie wrote:which is what you did and then you adding put downs on top of that makes you look even scummier.
That's null for him.
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