Micro 609: DC Dual Universes uPick - Game over!

[lilith2013]

Aren't I?

[KuroiXHF]

My mistake. You are. Sorry, I assumed your vote was an RVS one.

[KuroiXHF]

This as as minor as they are and I'm sure it can change considering how early it is on essentially, a different day one...

VOTE: MoI

[lilith2013]

It was (mostly) originally (barring the "why wasn't he killed" WIFOMy stuff, it was RVS), but now it's kind of a serious one I guess.

[KuroiXHF]

This is going to be an interesting game. I'm really curious how this goes.

[lane0168]

I don't like being prodded I'm sorry guys.

[lane0168]

Nobody is saying of they're the same alignment or not

Oh, were you serious? I thought you were RVS derping around.

Everyone is going to say yes. There is not a single motivation to do otherwise. Town in both are going to tell the truth. Scum on one world and Town on the other are going to lie. Scum on both are going to be truthful but it will properly suggest they were lying if they ever flipped. It would be tantamount to game throwing for scum to not do so.

Did you expect great things from your question? What answer that was at all alignment indicative did you expect to get?

Nobody is saying of they're the same alignment or not

Are you saying you are third party clumsy?

He’s making a D&D joke folks …

Honestly I was expecting someone to acknowledge it, but have an issue with it and avoid answering. Something like your post shows you have an issue with just answering outright. The hesitation reveals you could very well be town in one game and scum in another.

Clumsy's reaction also gives me the feeling they could be scum on earth 1 along with him being scummy there already.

VOTE: moi

[KuroiXHF]

I don't like your vote on MoI, especially the "I was expecting someone else to acknowledge it." Just saying.

I'm also not 100% sure that we're having our Earth 1 mindset on Earth 2, although that could possibly mean you're town here and scum on Earth One.

[KuroiXHF]

Mod: Are you aware of previous games with this whole, "Earth One" "Earth Two" play style?

Also, you'd tell me who was scum. You said that you'd PM it to me, but you must have forgotten. Want to send it to me again, please?

[lane0168]

Just realized the death on night 0 of earth 2... And 2 other votes on magna for other reasons. Good enough for early day I spose. Does anyone have any idea who'd kill xk? Cause I don't know how to analyze something like that. Who'd kill someone without anything to go on?

[lane0168]

I don't like your vote on MoI, especially the "I was expecting someone else to acknowledge it." Just saying.

I'm also not 100% sure that we're having our Earth 1 mindset on Earth 2, although that could possibly mean you're town here and scum on Earth One.

What do you mean expecting someone else to acknowledge it...?

[lane0168]

Sometime else like who? I didn't say that or mean to say it

[SnarkySnowman]

Soft prod received - will respond shortly.

[SirCakez]

Mod: Are you aware of previous games with this whole, "Earth One" "Earth Two" play style?

Yes you may discuss both Earths at all times.

[KuroiXHF]

My guess is that they're choosing smart and is willing to put two and two together very well. Xkfyu was pretty good yesterday, which would make MoI a good fit at killing Xkfyu. I'd nearly expect scum of less experienced people to kill me as I'd suspect people coasting by and less active.

Part of me also feels Lilith would bus MoI.

It is early and possibly premature, but my first guess of Earth Two scum is Lilith and MoI.

Preview Edit: Lane, I find it that you saying "I didn't want to say it, but I did notice it" to be forced. It seemed like something you would deliberately say in order to sound townie.

Preview Edit: No, Mod. You misunderstood my question. I'm saying are there other games (Not Micro 609) that uses the same setup of different and parallel games within the same game?

[lane0168]

I'm confused. Didn't want to say what?

[lane0168]

I think you're reading it wrong

[KuroiXHF]

The point about MoI that Lilith said. If you saw it and you found it creepy, you should have said it. That's town's job.

[lane0168]

No I didn't see it and find it creepy. I saw that lilith has other reasons for voting moi. Which are different than my reasons. I'm not trying to "oh yeah I saw that too". I'm saying... "oh I see that lilith and kuroi have their own reasons. Good for them" and I said good enough for early day 1 meaning "maybe moi not dying night 0 isn't bona-fide proof, but let's see where this takes us"

[Clumsy]

Nobody is saying of they're the same alignment or not

Oh, were you serious? I thought you were RVS derping around.

Everyone is going to say yes. There is not a single motivation to do otherwise. Town in both are going to tell the truth. Scum on one world and Town on the other are going to lie. Scum on both are going to be truthful but it will properly suggest they were lying if they ever flipped. It would be tantamount to game throwing for scum to not do so.

Did you expect great things from your question? What answer that was at all alignment indicative did you expect to get?

Nobody is saying of they're the same alignment or not

Are you saying you are third party clumsy?

He’s making a D&D joke folks …

Honestly I was expecting someone to acknowledge it, but have an issue with it and avoid answering. Something like your post shows you have an issue with just answering outright. The hesitation reveals you could very well be town in one game and scum in another.

Clumsy's reaction also gives me the feeling they could be scum on earth 1 along with him being scummy there already.

VOTE: moi

My reaction where exactly? The D&D comment? If that's your push you're going to have to do better than that.

As for Xk, let me go back through Earth-One and see his thoughts again. Might open up some thoughts.

[SirCakez]

Oh that's what you mean. Yeah I've seen one game using this mechanic before offsite (where I got it from, the creator is a friend of mine).

[Clumsy]

This isn't everything of course, but just some examples I pulled. Probably some better points to be made, but I'm not feeling well and just want to get some discussion going. In fact, previewing back through for formatting, it looks pretty lame. Whatever. I might do more later. I'll spoiler for ease on the eyes.

Spoiler: Wall

Reads list:

Town:
Lilith
Snarky
lane
Kuroi

Null:
Clumsy
TTH

Scum:
Javajoe (but not with Soren)
Soren (but not with Javajoe)


Those are in no particular order, and mostly based on gut, right now. So, come on, let's do this.

The interesting part here is that he was null-reading TTH, which many people were town reading.

No

I completely disagree.

Honestly, I'm not looking to talk about theory with you and I'll go ahead and warn you that I'm probably not going to answer questions of that nature.

Ok why's that?

These are a couple examples of interactions between the two. Pretty quickly, TTH just stops having anything to do with Xkfyu. A few possibilities here, but I maintain that TTH is probably town in Earth-One. I was going to say that this could be a reason that Xkfyu died in this world. One candidate, but it's made stronger if TTH is scum in Earth-One too. I don't think they are though.

Clumsy and javajoe's dislike for the wagon makes me like it more

Why?

Because they aren't in my town reads

How many scum are you expecting to be on each Earth?

2

You can see how that doesn't add up, right?

2

You can see how that doesn't add up, right?

Yeah... And?

Surely you don't need me to point out the faulty logic there.

Strong Town: TelltaleHeart
Lean Town: Lilith, Clumsy
Null: Soren, Javajoe
Lean Scum: Xkfyu, SnarkySnowman
Strong Scum: Lane

Here where's I am.

lane
TTH
Xkfyu/Soren/Snarky
Kuroi/Javajoe/Clumsy

Maybe I don't need you to explain it. But you'll have to explain why that's a problem now, and hasn't been a problem with you before

Having 3 scum reads in a game where there is very likely to have 2 isn't the problem.

However, using the fact that 2 of your scum reads don't like the wagon that just formed on your 3rd scum read as evidence that the wagon is good, is a problem, because no matter what, at least one of them is town.

Yeah id like to lynch javajoe.

Don't get me wrong. I get it. He's pretty damn scummy looking, and the points against him are good. In my experience though, the scummiest players in D1 almost always flip town.

Then who?

I'm not exactly sure yet. I have you and Kuroi as strong town, followed by TTH and Lilith who I think are probably town.

So, one of Clumsy, Joe, Snarky, and Soren being my choices for today.

I'm gonna start here:

VOTE: Clumsy

A -lot- of interaction with Lane here. But Kuroi had even more pushing against Lane. If Lane is scum on this Earth, would he kill Kuroi? Or would it look too obvious? Would he go with Xkfyu instead? What if Kuroi was his partner here. Eh. A lot of if's and would's.

(I mean, objectively, why Snarky. Not just from this wagon-not-moving thing.)

Because of balancing issues. And replenishing for VT? I am only asking for one other to confirm my theory.

The more vt's that claim, the better chance scum have of hitting pr's. Is what clumsy is getting at

This.

And I can't tell if javajoe is rolefishing or just didn't think of that.

This fence-sitting post. I think Snarky knows that Joe is town, but he's leaving his options open so that he can either push him on it, or WK him for it.

Plus the wagon-not-moving thing.

A little bit of pushing on Snarky too. It'd be easy for Snarky to coast by on his meta of not doing anything as town. That's way too easy to fake. Could be Snarky here?

So, I think it's one of the following scum teams:

Snarky/TTH
Snarky/MoI
MoI/TTH
Lilith/TTH

Hmm...now that I write it out like that, perhaps TTH is the better lynch.

Yeah. I like it. Let's do that.

UNVOTE: SnarkySnowman

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

Even more pushing on TTH.

If I had to pick one of these to cling to, it'd be TTH here. (It is still NKA, which is tricky and unreliable, but it's something to get discussion going.) Thoughts anyone?

[KuroiXHF]

OK. I get a good feeling that Clumsy is town here. It's too early to do a complete reads list but I'd venture to say leans town.

SirCakez, you wouldn't be able to link us to that, would you?

[lilith2013]

Pretty sure this is L-1 on Magna.

[lilith2013]

Do I seem like the type to hard bus?