Mafia 59: Hell on Earth - Game over!

[spectrumvoid]

vote: N9V

Seriously speaking, I like to lynch claimed scum... To heck with the numbers. Reason being people can manipulate numbers anyway (like I see some people have been doing), and we should not rely on scum to cross-kill.

[Kelly Chen]

Vount count

2 - No Lynch (theopor_COD, Jalyn)
2 - ~N9V~ (Skruffs, spectrumvoid)
1 - Skruffs (~N9V~)

not voting: Nightfall

With 6 alive and 6 present it takes 4 votes to toss someone into the steel (or decide not to).

Deadline Sun May 20.

[Skruffs]

SV is smart. Probably town.
Jalyn + NV9, definitely alien.
Theo and Nightfall, be elimination, borg.
That's my position.

[Jalyn]

I'm going to

unvote

while I think. I think it would only need 3 votes to send this into night, and I think there needs to be more discussion (among other things, it'll let Skruffs contradict himself even more.) I'll go back to voting no lynch later.

[Nightfall]

I agree that NV9 is the play for today. but I think we should look at scenerios a bit more.

Should we each make lists of our greatest suspects?

[~N9V~]

This is my list for most likely to be Borge:

1: Skruffs

2: Nightfall

3: Spectrumvoid

4: Theo

5: Jalyn

[theopor_COD]

Alien - N9V deffo. Skruffs likely. Jalyn Poss.

Borg - SV very likely. Nightfall - Skruffs - Jalyn.

[~N9V~]

Now you know what would be funny, If I was actually town.

[Skruffs]

what would be funny, would be if everyone fell for it. That would be humorous.

[~N9V~]

XD But yeah. I am town. I just said I was alien so that Yos would get lynched.

[Nightfall]

My thoughts,

Alien - N9V, Theoper
Borg - SV , Skruffs
Town - Nightfall, Jalyn

[Skruffs]

Before you even claimed Alien, you were saying who the aliens were going to kill.
Maybe you outed yourself to get Yos lynched, but you are

still alien

. I can understand your actions yesterday and today; you're trying to keep your team alive, even if it means getting lynched yourself, if that last alien can make it to endgame you still win. Very noble. But you are Definitely scum. You came clean with everything yesterday and you

can't go back, now.

[~N9V~]

I know. Hmm but why lynch me today? You have tommorow. I'm confirmed alien, so why today? Let me lay it out like this:

Lynch Me and turn out Alien:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
2-2-1

Then this is what can happen at night:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
1-2-0 (Both mafia target each other)

2-0-1

(Both mafia target a townie)
2-1-1 (Both mafia target the same townie)

1-1-1

(Alien targets Borg, Borg targets town)

2-1-0

(Alien targets town, Borg targets Alien)

Say we lynch a town today:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
2-1-2

Then this is what can happen at night:
(Borg-Town-Alien)

1-1-1

(Both mafia target each other)

2-0-2

(Both mafia target town)

1-0-2

(Alien targets Borge, Borge targets town)

2-0-1

(Alien targets town, Borg Targets Alien)

Say we lynch a Borg today:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
1-2-2

Then this is what can happen at night:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
0-2-1 (Both mafia target each other)

1-0-2

(Both mafia target a townie)
1-1-2 (Both mafia target same townie)

0-1-2

(Alien targets Borg, Borg targets town)

1-1-1

(Alien targets town, Borg targets Alien)

Allof the bolded ones are forsure losses for town. If we lynch a Borg for today, then the town's chances of winning go way up. If we miss, then what do you have to lose? Do the math, take what I just made above, and subract my kill for the next day (this is for my "Lynch Borg" chart. You have more of a chance of winning as you see.

[Skruffs]

Misleading. You're forgetting the number of times each situation could happen. For example, in lynching a townie situation :

Say we lynch a town today:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
2-1-2
B-org - RS, Town - T, A-lien UV
Then this is what can happen at night:
(Borg-Town-Alien)

S-T-V

(A- targets R, B- targets U)

S-T-U

(A- targets R, B- targets V)

R-T-V

(A- targets S, B- targets U)

R-T-U

(A- targets S, B- targets V)

Town loss without no-lynch and crossfire the next night.

2-0-2

(Both mafia target T)

Game Loss on All Sides

1-0-2

(A- targets R, B- targets T)

1-0-2

(A- targets S, B- targets T)
Alien (~NV9~) must be lynched the next day (impossible) followed by crossfire for town to win. Assumes that borg wouldn't want to kill alien threat.

2-0-1

(A- targets T, B- targets U)

2-0-1

(A- targets T, B- targets V)
Borg lynch necessary the next day (impossible) followed by successful cross kill.

Assuming that each option is completely random (it's not) town has 4 chances of being forced into a necessary nolynch + successful crossfire situation, 1 shot of being a game loss on all sides, and 4 potential mafia wins.

This is going to be done to your other scenarios, AND I'll do one for a no-lynch situation, too, but it will have to wait.

[spectrumvoid]

Sigh. What's this fascination with numbers?

There's so many ways I can see this turning out, so I'm not going to try to hazard a guess. The odds of each scenario happening are small due to the sheer number of possible scenarios.

[Skruffs]

exactly.
SV is smart, and two votes should be enough for the borgs to hop on and lynch the alien. Seriously, if the two of you vote NV9 right now, you will know who the last alien is, and you can knock one of the townies out tonight and STILL get the alien lynched tommorrow for the win.

[theopor_COD]

I still prefer a no lynch.

However I can't see the difference between lynching a Borg or an Alien. Being as N9V has already claimed scum he would be the obvious choice, as I say I still think Skruffs is the other alien and hence is pushing N9V's lynch to appear innocent.

[spectrumvoid]

I'm seriously starting to doubt Skruffs and his 'SV is smart' thing. Someone recently accused this behaviour of being 'fawning', which leads to the fawnee subtly misleading the fawner.

[Skruffs]

You can't risk lynching me, right now. IF your scum group miskills tonight, you lose the game. If someone is going to eb lynched, it has to bne NV9, regardless of if you think me and him are scum together.

[~N9V~]

Hmm, nice contradiction on your part Skruffs....

[Nightfall]

Vote:N9V

I'm going with lynching the alien we know.

[Skruffs]

Jalyn: Wants to No Lynch
Alien: N9V, Skruffs
Borg: SV, Nightfall/theoper_COD
Town: Jalyn, theoper_COD/Nightfall

Theopor(yesterday) - Wants to no lynch
Alien: N9V, Skruffs
Borg: SV, Nightfall
Town: Theo, Jalyn

NV9 - wants to vote nightfall/Skruffs
Alien : ???, ???
Borg : Skruffs / Nightfall
Town : NV9, ???

Skruffs: Wants to vote claiemd scum
Alien : Jalyn , NV9
Borg : Theo , Nightfall
Town : SV , Skruffs

Nightfall :
Alien - N9V, Theoper
Borg - SV , Skruffs
Town - Nightfall, Jalyn

Spectrumvoid: Wants to vote claimed scum
Town : ??? ???
Alien : ??? ???
Borg : ??? ???

More stats, SV, gotta love it right?
Town's public opinions on:
Jalyn - Town-3 Alien-1 ???-2
Nightfall - Borg-4 Town-1 ???-1
NV9 - Alien-4, TOwn-1 ???-1
Skruffs - Alien-2, Borg-2, Town-1, ???-1
Spectrumvoid - Borg -3 Town-1 ???-2
Theodor - Town-2 Borg -1 Alien-1 ???-2

Theopor, Jalyn, you want to lynch scum or not? Because in my eyes, scum probably want to avoid being lynched, townies want to lynch. If you were town, then pushing for a no-lynch means you are hoping for two successful nights of crosskilling with no lynches from here out. As compared to going for a successful lynch, one night of crosskilling, and another successful lynch. Of course, since neither of you are town, it makes sense that you would 'hope for the best' with a no-lynch.

SV, sorry. If it matters, I honestly think you are town and are playing it safe. I'm hoping you are, anyways, if you are always scum I will get depressed.

[Kelly Chen]

Vount count

3 - ~N9V~ (Skruffs, spectrumvoid, Nightfall)
1 - No Lynch (theopor_COD)
1 - Skruffs (~N9V~)

not voting: Jalyn

With 6 alive and 6 present it takes 4 votes to toss someone into the steel (or decide not to).

Deadline Sun May 20.

[theopor_COD]

unvote, vote n9v

Because frankly my desired wish of a no lynch is blatantly never going to happen, with the two Borg and other Alien pushing N9V's lynch.

[Kelly Chen]

Vount count

4 - ~N9V~ (Skruffs, spectrumvoid, Nightfall, theopor_COD)

1 - Skruffs (~N9V~)

not voting: Jalyn

With 6 alive and 6 present it takes 4 votes to toss someone into the steel (or decide not to).


"I was truthful! Don't lynch me!" ~N9V~ squeals as he bursts into flame inches from the bright red steel goo. And then falls into it.

~N9V~ -

Alien

- lynched Day 7


Night 7 falls! I would again like moves by this weekend.



There are 2 borg mafia, 1 alien mafia, and 2 protown remaining (one townie and the Newt).

The borg mafia can win the game if the last alien does not kill a borg tonight.