Mini 1088: Cookie Thief Mafia (Game Over)

[drmyshottyizsik]

UNVOTE: drmyshottyizsik

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik for real. Overreacting to a random vote on him.

my vote was real the firrst time, now you've mis repped and contradicted yourself. If your first vote was random why did you give a reason?

[Elleran]

It wasn't a reason. It was sarcasm the first time. I put wagon in quotes for that purpose.
So no, I did not contradict myself.

[drmyshottyizsik]

^^back peddling

[Stigmata]

vote Elleran

sarcasm
noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.

I don't think sarcasm is the word you are looking for. Why did you vote him?

[Elleran]

@drmyshottyizsik: Still nope.

Making a counterargument against your comment on my vote was fine. I simply provided an evidence that was from my past post. You can call it back pedaling if you want, but it's also possible that you took 'wagon' in quote marks too literally.

@Stigmata: Hmm.. You're right. "Sarcasm" was the wrong word. The intention of the quote marks were to show that I was being unrealistic. I voted shotty the second time with more seriousness for overreaction.

[andrew94]

Lier!

your reason for your first vote looked seriouss

[drmyshottyizsik]

ya it seemed like you were using a real reason while making fun of me

[Elleran]

It wasn't serious. Sorry to disappoint you guys.

Were you guys really expecting anyone to vote someone seriously within the first page when the average number of posts posted by each person was nearly 0? I did not have enough information. Far from it. Even the vote that I have proposed the second time isn't strong. My shotty vote remains because I have a reason to keep it there. Unless another evidence that I can work with arises, my vote isn't moving.

[drmyshottyizsik]

no but this arguement got us out of rvs

[Elleran]

That's fine. I dislike RVS. Too little information is really given off.

I'm almost convinced of your innocence, drmyshottyizsik. Only a scum would want to extend RVS. Getting out of RVS is critical if we want to make the most of the time we have.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm town I promise(I don't break those)

[Darox]

no but this arguement got us out of rvs

That's fine. I dislike RVS. Too little information is really given off.

I'm almost convinced of your innocence, drmyshottyizsik. Only a scum would want to extend RVS. Getting out of RVS is critical if we want to make the most of the time we have.

What is this mythical conceptual abstraction you call the rvs and why do you think we have magically stepped out of it's boundaries?

[Llamarble]

VOTE: Elleran
Elleran's "I'm almost convinced you're town" is ridiculous at this stage and handing out town reads only helps scum.
It also contradicts his "I'm keeping my vote on you because I have a reason to" a post earlier.
If Elleran believes Shotty is innocent then he doesn't have a reason to keep his vote there.
Scum forget what they're pretending to believe about other players because they don't actually believe it.
Telling Shotty he looks innocent is also buddying.

Drmyshottyizsik is another strong possibility, or perhaps a scumbuddy.
He's seeking towncred for getting us out of RVS when such has not yet happened.
The two of them may have planned having a silly argument and claiming getoutofrvs towncred during scum pregame talk.

[Darox]

Sounds good Llamarble, but let's lynch drmyshottyizsik first because his name is dumber.

[lewarcher82]

Elleran looks like a VI to me.

VOTE: Elleran
Elleran's "I'm almost convinced you're town" is ridiculous at this stage and handing out town reads only helps scum.
It also contradicts his "I'm keeping my vote on you because I have a reason to" a post earlier.
If Elleran believes Shotty is innocent then he doesn't have a reason to keep his vote there.
Scum forget what they're pretending to believe about other players because they don't actually believe it.
Telling Shotty he looks innocent is also buddying.

Drmyshottyizsik is another strong possibility, or perhaps a scumbuddy.
He's seeking towncred for getting us out of RVS when such has not yet happened.
The two of them may have planned having a silly argument and claiming getoutofrvs towncred during scum pregame talk.

I agree that the "I am almost convinced you're town" is ridicuolous at this stage, but how is your detailed analysis of scumteams any better?

[RobCapone]

i was the first vote and this is RVS you're dumb

unvote
vote elleran

for misrepping me

UNVOTE: drmyshottyizsik

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik for real. Overreacting to a random vote on him.

my vote was real the firrst time, now you've mis repped and contradicted yourself. If your first vote was random why did you give a reason?

so which is it shotty, either it was RVS or it was real, can't be both.

[lewarcher82]

i was the first vote and this is RVS you're dumb

unvote
vote elleran

for misrepping me

UNVOTE: drmyshottyizsik

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik for real. Overreacting to a random vote on him.

my vote was real the firrst time, now you've mis repped and contradicted yourself. If your first vote was random why did you give a reason?

so which is it shotty, either it was RVS or it was real, can't be both.

pay closer attention, you missed something.

[RobCapone]

I did?

[lewarcher82]

actually, no. My bad.

[Kublai Khan]

vote Elleran

sarcasm
noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.

I don't think sarcasm is the word you are looking for. Why did you vote him?

2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark:

a review full of sarcasms

.

It was obviously a flippantly sarcastic taunt. It was in quotes. Why did you consider it worthy of a vote?
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@Elleran: unvoting, then revoting the same person isn't an overreaction in itself?
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The two of them may have planned having a silly argument and claiming getoutofrvs towncred during scum pregame talk.

On a scale of 1-10 (10 being really strongly): how strongly do you believe this actually happened?

[RobCapone]

Did he really speculate on scum chat pre-game?

:skeptical:

[lewarcher82]

sidenote: trying to get out of rvs is not a towntell. It is a nulltell.

mod: I find it very nice when mods put the votecount (updated to page n-1) in the first post of page n, is it possible?

I like it too, but unfortunately, I don't know how it's done. I'll try to update VC as often as possible.

[PoisonIvy]

Oh hai thur

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik for trying to start a "wagon".

- WRONG!!! Shotsick was ACTUALLY the first person voted under the exact same statement.

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik for real. Overreacting to a random vote on him.

-When he pointed out your contradiction.

It wasn't a reason. It was sarcasm the first time. I put wagon in quotes for that purpose.
So no, I did not contradict myself.

- this is dealt with in RECAP.

Making a counterargument against your comment on my vote was fine. I simply provided an evidence that was from my past post. You can call it back pedaling if you want, but it's also possible that you took 'wagon' in quote marks too literally.

- Comprimising, will to accept other peoples point of view but still claiming she is right and pointing out that there is a possibility of her being misinterpretted when she firstly misinterpretted the WHOLE thing ie. shotsick trying to start a wagon. Why not picked up andrew? Did you read the game at all?

It wasn't serious. Sorry to disappoint you guys.

- Sounded pretty srs. Srsly.

My shotty vote remains because I have a reason to keep it there. Unless another evidence that I can work with arises, my vote isn't moving.

- comprimising. But willing to change her vote.

LESS THAN A PAGE LATER!!!!!!!!

I'm almost convinced of your innocence, drmyshottyizsik. Only a scum would want to extend RVS. Getting out of RVS is critical if we want to make the most of the time we have.

- So what happened to this other piece of evidence you were waiting on? Also many people, scum and town say that. Why are you suddenly under the illusion he's town because of his words? Perhaps you are too eager to swallow them.

RECAP. We either have mafia or a serial VI who cant read to see that shotsick was voted first and voted him for trying to start a "wagon". Even under the use of sarcasm, a "wagon" is what i would use if someone was attempting to start a wagon, but no one was taking the bait. FYI im one of these people who believes long term idiots are not good for town, even if they are indeed town. Its best to get rid of them early. They are easily persuaded to be loyal to one party, mafia or town and very stubborn to admit mistakes. See: backpedalling and the whole "I have a reason for my vote" vs. "It wasnt serious but im still not moving my vote" and now the "i believe you are almost completely innocent" gag. Sense this does not make to me.

Unvote, Vote Elleran

((And i am purposely refusing to call you that name shotsick))

[lewarcher82]

Oh hai thur

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik for trying to start a "wagon".

- WRONG!!! Shotsick was ACTUALLY the first person voted under the exact same statement.

I am absolutely convinced that the whole starting-a-wagon stuff was a joke. I do not get scumvibes by Elleran, and I do not get scumvibes by Shotstick either (guess it's your new name, dude).

I do get some from Llamabrble #37... he seems to be deducing a lot of stuff from a nulltelling situation. It is ridiculous for Elleran to be convinced that Shotstick is town, but it is allright for him to speculate on scumtalk in pregame and scumteams with scumstrategies?
This may be an hyperinterpretation, but it may also be scum jumping on a VI. A vote on his head won't hurt.

unvote; vote: Llamarble

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.1

drmyshottyizsik (2): andrew94, Elleran
RobCapone (1): Kublai Khan
Darox (2): Zed, Llarmarble
Zed (1): RobCapone
Elleran (4): drmyshottyizsik, Stigmata, Llamarble, PoisonIvy
Llarmarble (1): lewarcher82

Not voting: Darox

With 12 people alive, town needs 7 votes to lynch someone.