Open 338 Jungle Republic StefanBversion - FIN

[iamausername]

Speaking of dialogue, one question that comes up a lot, is policy on day 1 lurkers...though it might be problematic with this game due to its unusual late start and we still havnt got 100% numbers yet so we could be seeing a lot of early swaps.

some might say
that sunshine follows thunder
go and tell it to the man who cannot shine

some might say
this post is kind of scummy

UNVOTE: TheOtherFiction
VOTE: Sir Bastion

(Also "Speaking of dialogue" is a ridiculously bad segue, shame on you.)

[Rhinox]

hmm... well I'm still not entirely saitisfied with cobbler but there is another thing I've noticed.

IIOA, IIOA, Random Vote?, IIOA.

Noticing this pattern here with Yos. Its still early and I can give a pass on the first 3 because collectively they're basically your first post and you were answering distinct questions, but the last 1 is starting to raise some red flags for me. Too much talk about theory*.

Posting information, or setup discussion, or whatever, is only a scumtell if you do it instead of actual scumhunting. I don't think anyone this game had done any actual scumhunting as of page 2, so you're basically just calling me out for posting more stuff then other people. Discussing the setup is actually a perfeclty good way to get conversation going on early pages of a game. "information instead of analysis" is a silly thing to say, at a point of the game where there's nothing to analyze.

Thats funny because I was scumhunting from my very first post on page 1, but I digress and also point out the irrelevance of using scumhunting as a metric in an open multiscum game where one faction doesn't even have a kill and must only eliminate the other faction via lynching (scumhunting).

It just seems like the motivation behind your posts is to make you *appear* to be helpful and non-threatening.

Vote:princesskdw, who hasn't posted yet. (/slightly better then random vote since I have a weak town read on a few people and obviously have no read on her.)

Cobbler asked the wrong question. The right question was: what were you hoping to accomplish by voting an inactive?

[crypto]

Unvote. Vote: Sir Bastion.

In other news, all the activity in this game has me shaking with excitement.

[Sir Bastion]

Speaking of dialogue, one question that comes up a lot, is policy on day 1 lurkers...though it might be problematic with this game due to its unusual late start and we still havnt got 100% numbers yet so we could be seeing a lot of early swaps.

some might say
that sunshine follows thunder
go and tell it to the man who cannot shine

some might say
this post is kind of scummy

UNVOTE: TheOtherFiction
VOTE: Sir Bastion

lovely poetry. (haiku?)

May I ask what is kind of scummy about it?

(Also "Speaking of dialogue" is a ridiculously bad segue, shame on you.)

Shamed

Unvote. Vote: Sir Bastion.

In other news, all the activity in this game has me shaking with excitement.

are you in RVS or just wagoning?

btw the other friction its been for a while but I thought you'd notice after the mod said it twice now your vote is broken.

shamed

[crypto]

[quote=Sir Bastion]are you in RVS or just wagoning?[/quote]You left out the third option. Typical.

[crypto]

Fuck that shit.

[scooby]

Not seeing SirBastion. Active noob read all around.

Why didn't no one comment on my TheOtherFiction case?

[scooby]

You guys should come over for a visit sometime. We could play cards and tell scary stories over the campfire.

And also lynch Yosarian2.

Aww. But I like playing cards and campfires.

Do you usually make jokes on games? All I remember from you are serious posts.

[TheOtherFiction]

Because it wasn't a case and just pointing out the number of ifs in an arbitrary vote?

[StefanB]

Votecount:

Sir Bastion: iamausername, crypto (L-5)
Primate: Sir Bastion (L-6)
Cobblerfone: Rhinox (L-6)
princesskdw: Yosarian2 (L-6)
TheOtherFiction: scooby (L-6)
Yosarian2: Cobblerfone (L-6)

votingfailure: TheOtherFiction

Not Voting: Primate, havingfitz, princesskdw, MaxMontag

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is now permanent in post 4

Searching for replacements for princesskdw and MaxMontag

[Cobblerfone]

Yeah, scooby, that wasn't a case, it was a comment on a player's personality. I tend to be exact in my word choice as well, so I also sometimes include "if"-words. Heck, IRL I usually use "probably" in place of "yes".

Anyway, yeah, prod-dodge I guess. Nothing's really changed. I'm really just waiting for a response from Yos to Rhinox.

@Scooby & Fiction: What do you think of Yosarian2?

[Yosarian2]

You guys should come over for a visit sometime. We could play cards and tell scary stories over the campfire.

And also lynch Yosarian2.

Aww. But I like playing cards and campfires.

Do you usually make jokes on games? All I remember from you are serious posts.

What makes you say that? I usually joke around on day one.

Anyway, person I'm voting for lurking is getting replaced. So let me just lynch a scum instead.

unvote

Vote:TheOtherFiction

This is a good wagon. He's not voting anyone, he's making some weak quasi-attacks against both Cobbler and Bastion but isn't really going after either one. Looks like he tried to vote Bastion early on but messed up the bold tags, no big deal, except that was back on Tuesday, he's posted several times since then, and never bothered to actually put his vote on for real. Looks like overly cautious scum to me.

[Yosarian2]

Anyway, yeah, prod-dodge I guess. Nothing's really changed. I'm really just waiting for a response from Yos to Rhinox.

Response to what? This?

Cobbler asked the wrong question. The right question was: what were you hoping to accomplish by voting an inactive?

First of all, she's actually more likely then not to be scum. If I have 2 town reads on people in this game, then I vote someone else, I've got a 2/3 chance of voting for scum (9 other people, 6 of them are scum). That's why if you're town, you really want to be voting *someone* at all times in a game like this. This is an ideal game to lynch lurkers in, because the lurkers will usually also be scum.

Also, I did want her to be under some pressure when she started posting, since she needs to catch up with the rest of us. Besides that, scum are probably going to be more passive then townies (that's probably why this game is moving so slowly, all the scum are probably sitting on their hands doing nothing, and that's half the people in this game). Voting for people who seem to not be doing much is key to this kind of game, we all need to be doing it, because "too many scum" games are much more likely to stall out then normal games.

[Sir Bastion]

Looks like he tried to vote Bastion early on but messed up the bold tags, no big deal, except that was back on Tuesday, he's posted several times since then, and never bothered to actually put his vote on for real. Looks like overly cautious scum to me.

It has been somewhat hidden at the bottom of the votecount, he might have missed it?

btw

unvote

no point of it for the moment. Will give the thread a re-read through when I got the brains for it.

[TheOtherFiction]

I didn't revote because no one warranted the vote. Even if it were on the person, it would not exactly be worth it. That being said, I must agree with Yos2 on one point, which makes post 85 by cobbler fairly suspicious because he is posting "only to avoid a prod" which is funny since he gave town points to SirBastion for trying to ENCOURAGE talking, etc.
This is ironic and fishy because he admits there is nothing done while barely progressing anything by asking a question about Yos2 (I don't like him, but more like neutral-1 (-5=confirmed scum) but I don't really think that his play is necessarily scummy given his recent attempts at both making the game go forward and trying to scum hunt.

[StefanB]

I may have the two replacements, just waiting on a response from them. (PMs sent half an hour ago)

[Hiraki]

Yo bacaknaro

I'm going to be busy until 12ish, but when I'm able to, I'll address this game first.

[StefanB]

Yes Hiraki is replacing Princesskdw

[Cobblerfone]

Anyway, yeah, prod-dodge I guess. Nothing's really changed. I'm really just waiting for a response from Yos to Rhinox.

Response to what? This?

Cobbler asked the wrong question. The right question was: what were you hoping to accomplish by voting an inactive?

First of all, she's actually more likely then not to be scum. If I have 2 town reads on people in this game, then I vote someone else, I've got a 2/3 chance of voting for scum (9 other people, 6 of them are scum). That's why if you're town, you really want to be voting *someone* at all times in a game like this. This is an ideal game to lynch lurkers in, because the lurkers will usually also be scum.

Also, I did want her to be under some pressure when she started posting, since she needs to catch up with the rest of us. Besides that, scum are probably going to be more passive then townies (that's probably why this game is moving so slowly, all the scum are probably sitting on their hands doing nothing, and that's half the people in this game). Voting for people who seem to not be doing much is key to this kind of game, we all need to be doing it, because "too many scum" games are much more likely to stall out then normal games.

Well that and do you think scumhunting will be a towntell or not? I don't think it will be, but I also think notscumhunting will be a scumtell. Also, is there a reason you've been spelling "werewolf" as "warewolf"?

[StefanB]

Votecount:

Sir Bastion: iamausername, crypto (L-5)
TheOtherFiction: scooby, Yosarian2 (L-5)
Cobblerfone: Rhinox (L-6)
Yosarian2: Cobblerfone (L-6)

votingfailure: TheOtherFiction

Not Voting: Primate, havingfitz, Hiraki, MaxMontag, SirBastion

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is now permanent in post 4
VLA Rhinox(this weekend kind of) havingfitz(Hollydayweekend) Hiraki (until the 12.)

Can someone American tell me how long the Hollyday is going?

[funkybike1]

/confirm, replacing MaxMontag.

[Hiraki]

I meant 12 o'clock, not the 12th.

Sorry if that caused confusion.

[Hiraki]

Don't got much to say but holy shit scooby.

Vote: TheOtherFiction

[StefanB]

Yepp, say hello to funkybike1, who replaces MaxMontag.
Welcome to our 2 replacments.

[Sir Bastion]

not much to say at the moment, curious about theotherfiction wagon but not enough to spot the hiding scum atm.

Until then hello Hiraki and funkybike1!!