Micro 71: Lucid Dreamers - Night 4

Mitillos · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:10 am

And to see what would happen next.

qwints · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:34 am

Piggy things Mit is "no doubt" town yet leaves her vote on him. That's scummy.

UNVOTE: empking
VOTE: PiggyGal15

In post 56, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count

Activity Check - Siveure has not picked up his role PM, replacements are queued, Siveure has until one of my replacements responds

In post 58, screamlampost wrote:VOTE: Siveure DtTrikyp
Just realized you were here. Come talk.

~both signed by M

Why vote someone who is in the process of being replaced? Given that he hadn't picked up the pm he seems to be a completely null read.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:36 am

Ohcrap.

I'M HERE!

PLEASE DON'T REPLACE ME!!!!

Um, so yeah, going to work things out now.

screamlampost · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:39 am

Didn't even notice he was being replaced qwints.
But he's here now, and until he produces content, vote stays.

~M

qwints · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:53 am

screamlampost · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:54 am

Referring to me or SD?

~M

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:55 am

Um, I can't really tell much.

Piggy has a eensy weensy townread from me, so can't take that wagon.

Don't really support the whole empking wagon.

VOTE: Mist7676

For trying to derail a wagon that could have gotten us information. Sure it will crash and burn, but it's already going so maybe stop trying to crash it?

I think I'm developing a dislike for catchup posts...

qwints · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:03 am

In post 80, screamlampost wrote:Referring to me or SD?

~M

SD

Mist7676 · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:23 am

In post 81, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Um, I can't really tell much.

Piggy has a eensy weensy townread from me, so can't take that wagon.

Don't really support the whole empking wagon.

VOTE: Mist7676

For trying to derail a wagon that could have gotten us information. Sure it will crash and burn, but it's already going so maybe stop trying to crash it?

I think I'm developing a dislike for catchup posts...

But if you are voting me, aren't you already derailing the wagon?

Zoidberg · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:49 am

In post 83, Mist7676 wrote:
In post 81, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Um, I can't really tell much.

Piggy has a eensy weensy townread from me, so can't take that wagon.

Don't really support the whole empking wagon.

VOTE: Mist7676

For trying to derail a wagon that could have gotten us information. Sure it will crash and burn, but it's already going so maybe stop trying to crash it?

I think I'm developing a dislike for catchup posts...

But if you are voting me, aren't you already derailing the wagon?

You're suggesting he should put Empking at L-1 on the 4th page?

Mitillos · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:56 am

There is no Empking wagon any more, in any case. I moved to Piggy (come on, bacony one, start talking

) some time ago, as did qwints.

Mist7676 · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:25 pm

In post 84, Zoidberg wrote:
In post 83, Mist7676 wrote:
In post 81, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Um, I can't really tell much.

Piggy has a eensy weensy townread from me, so can't take that wagon.

Don't really support the whole empking wagon.

VOTE: Mist7676

For trying to derail a wagon that could have gotten us information. Sure it will crash and burn, but it's already going so maybe stop trying to crash it?

I think I'm developing a dislike for catchup posts...

But if you are voting me, aren't you already derailing the wagon?

You're suggesting he should put Empking at L-1 on the 4th page?

Did I say he had to vote Empking?

ProHawk · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:25 pm

In post 81, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Um, I can't really tell much.

Piggy has a eensy weensy townread from me, so can't take that wagon.

Don't really support the whole empking wagon.

VOTE: Mist7676

For trying to derail a wagon that could have gotten us information. Sure it will crash and burn, but it's already going so maybe stop trying to crash it?

I think I'm developing a dislike for catchup posts...

For someone so fixated on how wagons provide information, interesting that you provided a non-wagon vote?

screamlampost · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:27 pm

In post 76, qwints wrote:Piggy things Mit is "no doubt" town yet leaves her vote on him. That's scummy.

^This.

Also Emp's reaction to the wagon makes me think he is town. I guess the other head will have something to say about this, but I'm going to sleep and don't want my vote on Siv, so screw it.

Vote: Piggy

P-Edit:

@ProHawk: maybe he is starting a new one? Even though I'm not sure if I agree with Siv on that matter.

~m - non-capital m

Mitillos · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:40 pm

That's L-1, incidentally.

Zoidberg · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:39 pm

Don't really like the piggy wagon, especially L-1 so early. Definitely don't want a lynch without much more content from Siveure and some others.

But more than that I don't like Prohawk's reasoning:

In post 69, ProHawk wrote:
In post 21, PiggyGal15 wrote:

Today we No Lynch.

And

In post 41, PiggyGal15 wrote:

Well that sucks plan wise :/
Therefore I will say, DON'T BE A HERO AND TRY TO VIG SOMEONE TONIGHT.
I'm serious here, RC got LUCKY last game. I doubt we'll get that lucky again.

Hmmm... All the role ideas I had are now unusable, which is saddening...

Here.

No-Lynch... and RC got Lucky? I would have vigged/lynched Klick myself if I would have been playing.

Both of these points are bad. Had a no-lynch occurred, Klick would not have hammered town (his most scummy post IMO). Had Klick not been vigged, he wouldn't have been lynched D2 because he would have faked his death. It was not a random vig target from what I saw.

My read on you - scummy. I see someone posting pro-town ideas with ulterior motives. Discuss/explain.

Calling for no-lynch while also calling for no hero-vigilantism is logically consistent and doesn't show any cognitive dissonance.

Zoidberg · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:40 pm

In post 86, Mist7676 wrote:Did I say he had to vote Empking?

Who were you suggesting he vote for, then? Piggy?

Zoidberg · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:43 pm

In post 81, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Piggy has a eensy weensy townread from me, so can't take that wagon.

Whoa there, nugget. Why can't you vote someone who says they have a town read on you?

VOTE: Siveure Dtsomething

Mist7676 · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:46 pm

In post 91, Zoidberg wrote:
In post 86, Mist7676 wrote:Did I say he had to vote Empking?
Who were you suggesting he vote for, then? Piggy?

Seriously? I am not telling him to vote anyone, he can vote for whoever he wants for I just pointed out a quirk in his statement. Stop trying to throw mud at my by stretching the truth.

Zoidberg · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:04 pm

In post 93, Mist7676 wrote:
In post 91, Zoidberg wrote:
In post 86, Mist7676 wrote:Did I say he had to vote Empking?
Who were you suggesting he vote for, then? Piggy?

Seriously? I am not telling him to vote anyone, he can vote for whoever he wants for I just pointed out a quirk in his statement. Stop trying to throw mud at my by stretching the truth.

Well, when you say that voting for you would de-rail the wagon that implies that voting for you is bad.

Therefore you are saying there is a better candidate.

Maybe that was just an "anyone but me"-response? I don't know.

ProHawk · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:15 pm

In post 90, Zoidberg wrote:Don't really like the piggy wagon, especially L-1 so early. Definitely don't want a lynch without much more content from Siveure and some others.

But more than that I don't like Prohawk's reasoning:

Calling for no-lynch while also calling for no hero-vigilantism is logically consistent and doesn't show any cognitive dissonance.

I get it. You don't like me. You have said it twice.

Problem is, I am not here to gain your support. I am not here to make you like me. I am here to catch scum.

Calling for a no-lynch while calling for no hero-vigilantism sounds pro-town/logically consistent/doesn't show any cognitive dissonance at first glance. However, what I am saying is that in the last game she played in (which Piggy uses as support for her argument):

The lynch directly lead to the death of scum

by

hero-vigilantism. Herein lies the logic inconsistency/cognitive dissonance I am wanting Piggy to explain.

Side Note:

Mists rebuttal (Post #83) of Siveure's argument for voting her is interesting, and something that I also found to be lacking in Siveures post. Although Siveure is speaking in the past tense that Mist "derailed" a wagon, the fact is that he is also indirectly "derailing" any other wagon by not joining one. (One vote does not equal a wagon). I understood Mist's argument as such and agree.

Mist7676 · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:39 pm

Thanks ProHawk. I guess in my frustration, I didn't get my clear point across.

When I said,

Mist7676 wrote:
But if you are voting me, aren't you already derailing the wagon?

I meant to point out he is derailing a wagon (Piggy's and Empking's already dead one) by voting me. Of course, I didn't mean it as "Get your vote off me!" So, it was just a remark.

Mist7676 · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:42 pm

Simple Terms:

PiggyGal15 · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:56 pm

Already disliking Prohawk as well. Him and Mist are my biggest scum reads, though I doubt the interaction between them comes from scumbuddies.

Prohawk, I was saying we no lynch if we do the alignment reveal plan. We're not doing the alignment reveal plan because we can't even do that anymore. Ergo, we're lynching today.
How in the world can you say that what RC did was obvious? Klick wasn't anywhere near scummy (at least not to me, he was barely even there) so why would you think RC had any way of obviously knowing that Klick would be scum and would warrant a lynch? Unless you're suggesting he got outside knowledge or something,

it was just a lucky shot.

Zoidberg · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:02 pm

In post 95, ProHawk wrote:I get it. You don't like me. You have said it twice.

Oh hey... listen I didn't mean that I personally dislike you.

When I say "I don't like XYZ" I meant "I don't find this to be pro-town".

Please don't take it as me saying "I dislike you as a person/poster/player"