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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:59 pm

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In post 48, notscience wrote:Why isn't the IC as strong as a one shot cop?

Essentially it gives EVERYONE an inno rather than one person.

Granted, there is no chance of getting the guilty on scum with an IC, but it still provides someone the scum HAVE to kill before Lylo. It provides lynches to analyze without the lynch.
Because the chance of getting a guilty as you said, and the possibility of having 2 confirmed town (cop and cop's target). It takes the other 2 town PR's being dead and no counter-claim or to somehow have the Cop's story check out through other town PR night actions like the Tracker or the JK. I agree the IC does have its own advantages though.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:01 pm

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Ah, I see it now.

I actually take it back- picking the IC is a must.

Why?

Because if you take 3, there are still 2 left for fakeclaims.

If you don't take the IC, there's only one.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:04 pm

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@49 Ah, that was just me commenting on the game. As in, actually playing and giving my opinion. And the part in the parentheses was obviously sarcasm.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:04 pm

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Though I just realized from scum's perspective you are also thinking about what you can counter-claim. So even more reason to pick IC since you can't fake claim it.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:07 pm

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I will just say it now but that's twice that notscience has been thinking the same thing as me. First time was with the question about what people would pick, though I didn't post that because I figured it would have too much WIFOM to actually use for scumhunting down the road. Notscience = town.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:07 pm

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Here's another question-

When forced to claim, do you claim something you know is in the game to out the PR (tracker or JK) or do you claim those not in the game?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:11 pm

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depends on the situation; if you are prob dead whatever you claim, you claim something that is so they are outted. If your claim will probably save them, something not in.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:12 pm

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I think that we should lynch between the two people who claimed innocent townie, the odds of getting scum are higher there. Whoever is innocent townie should help us by claiming, so we have a confirmed scum.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:13 pm

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No
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:13 pm

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In post 57, mnemonicdevice wrote:I think that we should lynch between the two people who claimed innocent townie, the odds of getting scum are higher there. Whoever is innocent townie should help us by claiming, so we have a confirmed scum.

VOTE: MD

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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:16 pm

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He might just be dumb
I was in a game with him where he was dumb.
And someone had your avatar, which is making me have flashbacks
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:19 pm

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We are not lynching the joke claims! They are probz both town....
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:19 pm

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Is anyone else bugged he said he wants to lynch us without voting us, and had 0 other comments on the game?
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:20 pm

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What? I am confused with what you said NS.

I would choose IC, 1-shot cop, tracker.

IC: Isn't even a PR and they have to choose when to use it the right way.
cop: Has 1 shot which is nothing
tracker: Well I sucked at tracker so I don't like the role and it is the weaker of the remaining roles.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:20 pm

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Meant to say confirmed not claiming
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:21 pm

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Yeah that is a little odd
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:22 pm

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About what, Beast?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:22 pm

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Wow this game has a lot of posts. Choosing IC would depend on the player list. If it had people who weren't scum with me that I would be sure that would make the best use of IC, I wouldn't play it.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:22 pm

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In post 60, NicCage wrote:He might just be dumb
I was in a game with him where he was dumb.
And someone had your avatar, which is making me have flashbacks
When was this?
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:24 pm

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Lol no, I'll find it
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29484
Dis un, I replaced in, then was killed. But I saw you be dumb all over the place.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:25 pm

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Is dumb alignment indicative for him?
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:26 pm

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I doubt it. I mean he was town that time, but I doubt he becomes a genius when he's scum.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:28 pm

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The claiming thing. You said scum have 2 claims with IC but 1 without or something like that.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:30 pm

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Okay.

So 5 PRs. Scum pick 3. That leaves 2 not in the game. The scum can claim these two without being CC'd.

But if they don't pick the IC in the three, that leaves only 1 fakeclaim, as they can't fakeclaim IC.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:34 pm

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Yeah! I when I'm scum. I post well!

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