-1 lynch in 7 player game?

[MightyFireball]

Ok, since I just inadvertantly did this in Newbie 314, I'll ask: Is it wise to put someone in a -1 lynch situation on day one in order to draw out scum? This is assuming there is 2 Mafia and either no cop and no doctor, or one cop and no doctor, or one doctor and no cop, or one cop and one doctor (the usual Newbie setup).

Any thoughts, is it bad to put someone in a -1 lynch situation on day 1?

[Twito]

Not necasserily unless it makes you look scum yourself.

[MightyFireball]

Well, it did.

[Primate]

If you think that two people dying is worth the limited amount of information gained by a bad hammer go for it.

Never put someone at -1 in a newbie game unless you really don't mind them dying. And if you really don't mind them dying, but think they're town enough to try this gambit in the way you suggest, you're probly not thinking it out right.

[mith]

The game is not to be discussed outside of the thread

unless your role specifically states that you may do so.

I'll leave this open for general discussion purposes, but do not talk about ongoing games.

[MightyFireball]

Yeah, I got a private message about that. Sorry, folks.

[Patrick]

I'd recommend not doing it without good reason, and not early on in a game.

[IH]

Mith is not only on Tiger watch. He's on rule breaker watch!

Also.... the most frequent discussion that NEEDS to be had in newbie games is this one.

Lynch minus 2 is not bad, for the main reason that for that person to get lynched, BOTH of the scum would have to quickly pile on. As town you will probably lose the town the game if you put on the -1 just to draw out a scum hammah.

[Fiasco]

Lynch minus 2 is not bad, for the main reason that for that person to get lynched, BOTH of the scum would have to quickly pile on.

Lynch minus 2 is risky. It gives clueless townies the opportunity to third-vote, or to hammer after a scum third-vote.

[ChannelDelibird]

Lynch minus 2 is not bad, for the main reason that for that person to get lynched, BOTH of the scum would have to quickly pile on.

Lynch minus 2 is risky. It gives clueless townies the opportunity to third-vote, or to hammer after a scum third-vote.

Which is why I try to make a habit of pointing out the dangers of a third vote at the beginning of my newbie games.

[Zindaras]

I usually get very very aggressive regarding people who hastily put people at Lynch-1 or Lynch-2.

[mole]

Lynch minus two risky? Maybe in a mini or large, but that's only two votes in a Newbie game!

I'd point out that the mafia could lynch straight away after that, but otherwise, c'est la vie. How are the mafia gonna learn not to be so obvious if we don't catch them in the act? :)

[mikeburnfire]

Is it wise to put someone in a -1 lynch situation on day one in order to draw out scum?

No. Last time I did this it got me lynched.

...which is fine because I was scum and deserved it.

[Mr. Flay]

Lynch minus two risky? Maybe in a mini or large, but that's only two votes in a Newbie game!

I'd point out that the mafia could lynch straight away after that, but otherwise, c'est la vie. How are the mafia gonna learn not to be so obvious if we don't catch them in the act?

I think the fact that Mafia almost never do this anymore is evidence that we have, in fact, taught them not to do so...

For the record, I do find -1 to be somewhat suspicious in a Newbie Game setup, because it's all too easy for a newbie/scum/newbie scum to hammer with the patent excuse of not realizing it was so close, or drumming up largely bogus arguments, and there's zero chance for rebuttal until D2, when you're at Lynch or Lose.

[AndrewS]

Before, I would have said that it was a perfectly acceptable way of getting a roleclaim. After recent newbie games, I feel that it should be reached only if you intend to lynch.

[IH]

Lynch minus 2 is risky. It gives clueless townies the opportunity to third-vote, or to hammer after a scum third-vote.

You have to remember that this is a 7 player game, and every newbie game I play in I make sure to talk on this subject at least once.

Usually discourages quicklynching. = )