Mini 1578: Lord of the Rings!! - GaME OVeR

[ThreetoMango]

(And, hey, if I'm wrong, you can always blame me for it, since I'd be the kind of person to make that mistake.)

[Bulbazak]

Aronis, I like it. Helps differentiate between fluff and serious stuff...

This is the only thing making me doubt my Aronis scumread.

I also think the questions are more attempts to look like he's doing something, rather than actually doing something.

The common rule is that your scum list should have as many people as there are scum.

No, your scum list should consist of the people you are reading as scum. Arbitrarily assigning a certain amount of people to the scum list just so that it matches the actual amount of scum is fake scumhunting.

Do You Vote without a reason in order to gauge reactions or do you like giving a reason for your votes?

Not telling. That would ruin any attempts at pressure in the future.

I've stumbled across people here and there saying "consistency" is scummy but there is no way I can see hypocrisy as acceptable from town.

I've seen hypocrisy from town. It all comes down to judging intent.

Leaning Town on The Three Amangos and Bulba. Leaning scum on reinoe, and thinking FailHydra is his partner at the moment.

Why is FH scum?

I'm in no mood to fight a flashwagon that consists of:

a vote based on confirming that the game is starting,
an RVS vote,
a possible misinterpretation of the English Language,
and I don't even know what Toogeloos vote is about but whatev

Claiming now.

Frodo baggins
Town Aligned Hobbit Ringbearer
1x unkillable

If I'm killed the ring falls into the hands of sauron and the town faces a penalty.

This smells like BS.

Unvote

Vote Reinoe

[Aronis]

VOTE: reinoe

Sorry, not buying it. But hey, if we are wrong at least you don't die!

[Aronis]

L-1 btw

[Toogeloo]

Can I copyright the Three Amangos?

[reinoe]

VOTE: reinoe

Sorry, not buying it. But hey, if we are wrong at least you don't die!

Yeah, I'm sure that scum won't NK me tonight.

[reinoe]

VOTE: reinoe

[Toogeloo]

Why is FH scum?

reinoe's first game post in RVS. His later attempt to sweep it under the rug suggests to me he was RVS bussing and then finding a reason to get off to try and push a more "serious" read.

[Freja]

seriously reinoe. and I was about to come shout these idiots down.

whatever. anyways, I was waiting for my other head to awaken so we could converse about this, but:

a) frodo's in the freaking game, obviously
b) frodo has to be town

so why the hell would anyone vote someone who claimed frodo? all that would be needed is a counter claim, and it wouldn't even require outing PR's or anything

[Toogeloo]

seriously reinoe. and I was about to come shout these idiots down.

whatever. anyways, I was waiting for my other head to awaken so we could converse about this, but:

a) frodo's in the freaking game, obviously
b) frodo has to be town

so why the hell would anyone vote someone who claimed frodo? all that would be needed is a counter claim, and it wouldn't even require outing PR's or anything

Meta
Meta
Meta

[reinoe]

People have some mind-blowingly bad meta tactics. There's no point in fighting it.

Especially bad is the "reinoe's scum for confirming the game". That vote is so mindblowingly bad I have no idea where it could have come from.

[Bulbazak]

seriously reinoe. and I was about to come shout these idiots down.

whatever. anyways, I was waiting for my other head to awaken so we could converse about this, but:

a) frodo's in the freaking game, obviously
b) frodo has to be town

so why the hell would anyone vote someone who claimed frodo? all that would be needed is a counter claim, and it wouldn't even require outing PR's or anything

There are things called fake claims.

[Freja]

well yeah but if you claimed frodo then all that would have to happen is the real frodo would have to counter claim

in a LOTR themed game, why would you lie about your character being Frodo?

[reinoe]

GG SCUM.

[reinoe]

I don't know what advantage the scum are getting after the nightkill but it's handed to them on a silver platter.

[Toogeloo]

well yeah but if you claimed frodo then all that would have to happen is the real frodo would have to counter claim

in a LOTR themed game, why would you lie about your character being Frodo?

Why would you meta that Frodo is in the game?

[reinoe]

OMFG, "Why would you meta that Frodo is in Lord Of The Rings"

Hey Dr. Pants!

[Freja]

Reinoe, never self vote. never.

@toogeloo: you're right that frodo might not be in the game, but he's probably the most likely character to be in the game, which means fake claiming him as opposed to Sam or Bilbo is unnecessarily risky

[reinoe]

Reinoe, never self vote. never.

@toogeloo: you're right that frodo might not be in the game, but he's probably the most likely character to be in the game, which means fake claiming him as opposed to Sam or Bilbo is unnecessarily risky

Sometimes town plays so badly that a self-vote is what the town deserves.

[Freja]

[Toogeloo]

Reinoe, never self vote. never.

@toogeloo: you're right that frodo might not be in the game, but he's probably the most likely character to be in the game, which means fake claiming him as opposed to Sam or Bilbo is unnecessarily risky

But if Frodo isn't in the game, wouldn't it be safe to say he's likely on a scum safe list?

[Toogeloo]

Reinoe, never self vote. never.

@toogeloo: you're right that frodo might not be in the game, but he's probably the most likely character to be in the game, which means fake claiming him as opposed to Sam or Bilbo is unnecessarily risky

Sometimes town plays so badly that a self-vote is what the town deserves.

And if you're town, self voting on page 4 to hammer is so lolworthy against your win condition, you should be MK'd anyways.

[Fail Hydra]

@Reinou - You'll probably only get answers from one head, considering the other head hasn't played in a couple years and he forgets how to mafia.

How Do You Make Your Scum list? Do you rank your scum or are they all interchangeable?

There's always a rank, the only reason a scum read would be changed is because a new reason has come up. Other than that, I typically keep my vote where it is on the scummiest person.

Do You Vote without a reason in order to gauge reactions or do you like giving a reason for your votes?

I always have a reason, even if it's only understood by me, and putting a vote on someone to pressure them to stop lurking is considered a reason to me, even though it's often done without any spoken cause at the time it's made.

What was your last completed game and what did you learn from it?

Uh... I can't remember... I just came back from a year of hiatus, and silavor's been on hiatus for... five years? Six? It's been a long time for him. I

think

my last game was the open one where I was just so done with mafiascum that I trolled through the whole game, somehow ended up at lylo (I honestly don't understand how I wasn't policy lynched, I was so bad) and of course scum won. I learned that it's probably best to just ask for a replacement if your heart's not in the game.

Do You Value "consistency" or is that irrelevant to you?

To a point. If you're trying too hard to stick to your earlier posts and reads, then you're scum. If you consistently switch back and forth and you say things that keep betraying what you've said before, then you're scum. Anything in between is null.

p-edit: Well, either reinou is scum and I'm glad he lynched himself for us, or he's an idiot and deserves to be policy lynched. It's page four!! A self lynch! On page four!!! NOT EVEN TWO DAYS INTO THE GAME!! *throws hands in the air* well this is a great start.
Also, why the hell does Frodo have to be town? You should always assume that role ≠ alignment. Always, always,

always

.

--Piggy--

[Freja]

does scum have access to a list of characters that aren't in the game? is this something that happened in previous LOTR's?

[reinoe]

Reinoe, never self vote. never.

@toogeloo: you're right that frodo might not be in the game, but he's probably the most likely character to be in the game, which means fake claiming him as opposed to Sam or Bilbo is unnecessarily risky

Sometimes town plays so badly that a self-vote is what the town deserves.

And if you're town, self voting on page 4 to hammer is so lolworthy against your win condition, you should be MK'd anyways.

I told you I'm not gonna fight a goddamn derp flashwagon.