InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

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I looked at at the player list and immediately wanted to vote that monstrosity, but now it feels silly.

VOTE: ActionDan

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Guys let's all vote for ActionDan please thanks.

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I know you are scum iece but help me pl Abomination. You'll be furthering your wincon!

Lost interest at the 4th vote or whatever.

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I know you are scum iece but help me pl Abomination. You'll be furthering your wincon!

Lost interest at the 4th vote or whatever.

you only had 3 votes on him.

and now 5

Who's counting?

Well. You, I guess.

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Tbf I suspect that basically all the players in Abomination will flake out and we will deal with at most 2 people in that slot.

I am pretty sketched out by people who thought that reading difficulties would be a legit reason to vote them tbf.

lolsuchhydra is a reason that makes sense to me tho.

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Unvote; Vote: kdowns

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For some reason that post makes me want to lynch Clyton a little.

No idea why, really, because I was curious about the same thing as him.

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Well that is a dumb reason.

I will let you have scummy reasons for wanting to lynch Abomination though because it's you.

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XOFELF.

CHAMPION OF JUSTICE.

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Majiffy can i be town?

I think you are town so that is why I am asking you.

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When I was thinking about Abomination for just a second, it occurred to me that most of them would probably flake or feel like they could rely on hydra-mates to do all the work. This has always been my experience in playing with hydras that start with more than 2 people.

Because that was my take with very minimal introspection, I decided that the particular "let's lynch this due to reading being hard" people were for one reason or another not caring to think about things very carefully (especially in a game that already has a million hydra).

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Katsuki is probtown; policy lynches are bad.

-B_E

Whoa, whoa whoa.

Kasuki, you come in here, make 24 posts of ABSOLUTELY FLUFFY NONSENSE over the span of two pages...and WE need to be lynched? Bullshit.

Vote: Kasuki

Good lord, please at least make an effort.

Bulbathing's post has dichotomies that don't make sense to me.

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Dan is town unless Katsuki is scum.

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I don't like TSO except for him questioning all that softclaiming.

Has mastin/always done

anything

worthwhile yet?

(this is another head of this hydra checking in )

~MTD

The fact that this is the first post of a hydra head makes me uncomfortable. I think if I were town in a hydra like this I would lurk the fuck out as long as someone else was doing things. If I were scum I would feel like I had to post.

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Abom can you explain why BE left? His last few posts seemed town.

Erm, possible exception is if BE was the one carrying the entire hydra and he left.

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Oh shit you're right. I am mixing Majiffy-posts up with someone else because I thought he was pushing for an Abomination lynch. I have a feeling there's some kind of avatar fusion happening in my head. Rereading some stuff.

Town

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I thought Always was town until I remembered that it was Mastin.

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I'm confused by the 'lolsuchhydra' bit though. I can't actually tell if he supports a policy lynch or not >.<

I obviously do not support it; however, if someone wants to lynch the hydra just because it is funny to run up the person with 5-8 members or whatever on page 1, I think that's a pretty standard town reaction. I think that because I thought it.

On the other hand, I think that the "rational" reasons people gave for wanting to lynch the hydra and bullshit. I think they are bullshit because I considered them and decided that they were bullshit with very very minimal effort.

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I understand Actiondan's Iec vote more than Iec's Actiondan vote.

Ongoing.

Iec's post 85 looks like trying too hard to appeal to an influential player (asking Majiffy if he can be town).

lol

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@ mastin xofelf's post about being nervous because a previous game ended badly was kind of scummy I guess, but I explained it away to myself using logic that I can't remember.

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Caught up now.

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Scumhunting.

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Wow, Mastin is bad at this game.

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@ Nati or whoever that was -- I feel like anyone who knows how I play at all should think that I am town right now. I guess this isn't necessarily really true of Mastin, whom I think I've played with exactly once and it was 2009, but I find her combination of vacuity, pomposity, and verbosity grating.

However, people's reads on me have been pretty RNG early game for the last several games I've played I think. There's usually a burst of anti-Iec sentiment sometime either D1 or D2 that never goes anywhere. So I'm trying not to overinterpret it.

I don't play games as frequently anymore, and I think the meta has shifted enough that there's not much correlation between how I perceive how I'm playing in a particular game and how I'm perceived.

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I don't have any read on Clyton at all, really, but I figure he's probably town if that many people are so sure of it.

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OK.

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Don't kill Majiffy. :[

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Also usually when lots of people think someone is town with relatively little controversy ala Clyton that person is usually town. Scum feel awkward dethroning people, especially when the throning is caused by such ambiguous things.

This is also why Dan is probably town unless Katsuki flips scum (i.e., he said he didn't find Katsuki particularly town after 3-4 people called him soso town after his activity burst).

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I think Klick is town too.

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Sakura Hana literally has yet to post, so I dunno what's up with that one.

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Scum can do cheap distancing by voicing vague suspicion or uncertainty on a well-liked scumfriend without intent to follow-up on it. This is the cheapest, freest way to distance ever.

This is why Dan's behavior is no longer town if Katsuki flips scum, as his behavior could be an instance of that if Katsuki flips scum.

Tbh I might have a different take on the dan stuff if I wasn't also kinda not sure what was up with the Katsuki stuff as everyone started to praise it.

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@ Nero -- I'm replying to this:

I don't agree with this. First, ad populism is stupid and is the 'cause of 95% of all mislynchs. Second, if Clyton is scum but getting town read...why would scum try to dethrone him?

Though I have to admit that in my head I was responding to Mastin having typed that, but I now see that it was indeed you. I brought up the Dan situation because I know that Mastin didn't really understand my thoughts on Dan earlier, so it would mean something to her and would provide extra context for how this assumption on my part has colored my reads on various players.

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I am so bad at tense good lord.

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I'm not townreading Katsuki at all. That is part of the point of all of it.

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Other scumreads are MDT, Beast, and Venmar. I think at least one of AD/Mhork is likely scum. I also think there is at least 1 scum on the Abomination wagon.

-Bulba

Hi Bulba, this is what I was referring to ^

When I read this i was like wtf where does this AD/Mhork foolishness come from. Sounds made-up.

As for my own dichotomies, I unpack them later when Mastin doesn't understand anything and Nero thinks I am wrong but that's the way love goes.

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By the way my slot may transition into a hydra with AngryPidgeon.

We need to choose a name first.

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@ Bulba OK. I was thrown off because you first listed MDT/Beast/Venmar in one set and then listed AD/Mhork in a separate set. I do remember the multiscum discussion, though it doesn't really follow that one of them is scum AFAICT, so that is why that didn't occur to me.

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, I feel you're being passive aggressive towards me (reading me as scum passively). Why?

I am not reading you as scum, so this is a mistaken impression on your part.

My comment about your take on Abomination being scummy but it being OK meant that I did not think it was scummy specifically coming from you.

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Egg is town. No need to discredit the wagon on me otherwise.

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, I feel you're being passive aggressive towards me (reading me as scum passively). Why?

I am not reading you as scum, so this is a mistaken impression on your part.

My comment about your take on Abomination being scummy but it being OK meant that I did not think it was scummy specifically coming from you.

Oh yeah okay that makes sense, it's just that for some reason I thought you said Mastin was bad at this game for calling me town.

No, I said Mastin was bad at the game after calling me scum after my series of catch-up posts.

Way too narcissistic to pay much attention to any other aspect of Mastin's posts given that tbh.

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@AP

I will hard-veto Mhork-lynch. Mhork is town and wrong.

Egg might be scum but I identify with the playstyle and would prefer not to lynch.

Does the ellipses indicate less comfort with Mhork/Nero/Xof for scum? If so, why for Xof in particular?

- Iec

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Iece how many times have you flipped on your town read on me so far?

Basically never? AP thinks you're scum, though.

I have signed 100% of my posts I think, so all the unsigned ones are AP.

-Iec

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I agree that Lemniscate looks more town. I guess I am OK with shos being lynched. There are worse plays than people who won't play the game, even if I personally think he's pretty likely town.

Flashwagon on Goat would be something I would like a lot in that he is a great lynch for the same reason and I don't think he's town. 2-3 days is really plenty of time to get a lynch through; people are hyping things up way too much. However, people should only discuss it and not move from main wagons unless everyone somehow happens to love this idea.

@NC - AP posted about the shos-cop thing before even mentioning the thought to me FWIW.

-Iec

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(I said xof at the time because I had just aligned a lemni-town read after AP's switch and I've always read shos town.)

(And I mean AP vetoed my shos scumread ages ago while voting him slightly before that too at the end of the day.)

(So I mean, yeah. Annoying to me.)

-Iec

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I also find BoP/Shroomish kinda scummy, but they are not the sort of wagon I am as comfortable flashing as I suspect they will have some kind of elaborate claim if scum.

Well, I suspect BoP will.

-Iec

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AP has characterized my feelings about the current situation accurately.

In terms of course of action, I like what Dan just posted:

I'm keeping my vote on Lemi until another mason (of which there are at least 3) claims.

I think this pretty much also applies to us, except that we aren't actually voting Lemni atm.

Which is relevant to a proper interpretation of Titus's previous post about Lemni's wagon being full of scum => AIR scum.

- Iec

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My internet is briefly working on my own account, so I will post this quickly before it stops working. Plz to post as the hydra @ AP:

Actually, seriously, public PSA announcement --

If you are town, and you notice funkiness in behavior that is easily explained by PR status, please do not be an idiot and highlight it.

There is no way that everyone who is doing it in this thread is simply scum who is role-fishing.

pedit - Uhhhh I actually didn't remember that Ceph modded that since his avatar has changed. Let me check.

My gist from NS's post is that his fakeclaims are going to be plenty sophisticated and my flavor-related uncertainty is pretty nullified.

But I will check back.

peditx2nao -- prohawk says it was so

- Iec

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Her claim is an error regardless of her alignment. If she's a town, we have to also imagine big errors from her masonfriends, though.

Aren't you the one who claimed Friendly Neighbor? I'm a little surprised that that doesn't make a mason claim super sketchy to you.

- Iec

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I am a little surprised that you (I think?) find bit-by-bit claim elaborations evidence of a town alignment. Town just has to claim what's in their role PM. Scum have to craft things.

Heck, we even know that Lemniscate asked her "mason mates" how to claim, as she said as much in the thread.

She was told secret information by the Mod that made her think that scum had daytalk.

It wasn't obvious to her that claiming the number of mason partners would be an obvious thing to do.

The only argument in favor of Lemni town I can see is the argument from flavor, and that's mitigated to an extent by Ceph's fakeclaim meta.

pedit rofl katsuki, town fakeclaimer extraordinaire. Claim Asoka or go home. I have "reasons" to believe it's pretty sketchy, and I don't even have to be cagey about it.

Unvote; Vote: Lemniscate

- Iec

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lol

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Both scumteams killed AP and I N1 apparently. ^^