Mini 1596: Minimence I Game Over!!!

[Csareo]

Hey guys. 55 pages to read through, so bear with me.

[Csareo]

Csarebro, you've been a part of every game I'm in right now, how does that make you feel?

No sure. I've read 10 of these hellish 55 pages. Can someone give me the highlights so I know what to look closer for?

[Csareo]

claim now

There's no way I'm claiming when I've only read 12 pages. Have some patience.

[Csareo]

claim now

If you can share the highlights, that would speed the process up greatly.

[Csareo]

I haven't read all 55 pages, so I'm not confident in claiming. The only way a claim is going to be gotten out of me is if I'm at L-1 or I have completely caught up with you guy's.
I replaced in a game with 55 pages, so I need some time.

[Csareo]

Yokay, had to skip most of the game, but I'm a vanilla townie.

[Csareo]

I've been in 5 games with expresso, and he's been scum read D1 in everyone. He is a new player, so many people may not understand his meta at this point.
What's the case on him?

[Csareo]

This isn't D1, Csareo. And there's something kind of unsettling about your throwing the newb card out for him given, one, your join date, and two, that you've claimed to have read at least 12 pages and presumably have no opinion of him.

I've played mafia elsewhere.
I skimmed everything past page 20, so I really need to see the case on him before I vote.

[Csareo]

Okay, but that's actually his apparent meta.
Who else is under suspicion?

[Csareo]

"Just Espresso being Espresso" ... "too scummy to be scum" ...

Csareo, if you are going to pooh-pooh the leading wagon, then its on you to give us an alternative.

I'm asking questions, so maybe I can make a case on an alternative.
Replacing into a game with 55 pages is willingly jumping into hell.

I read your case and the links. Can I link to ongoing games, as long as they're not discussed?

[Csareo]

Guys, don't make him claim, that's not cool, just wait for him to catch up

This post did catch me the wrong way though. If expresso were scum, I would imagine him buddying with the replacement as the only way out.
Who is his most likely scum buddy, since you are all so confident he's scum?

[Csareo]

I'm asking questions, so maybe I can make a case on an alternative.
Replacing into a game with 55 pages is willingly jumping into hell.

That's about the third time you've whined about replacing into this game. I sympathize with replacing into games with many pages as I have done it a number of times, but you knew that coming in, brother.

That said, I don't mean to come across as wanting to stonewall you from asking questions or getting reactions from others. I welcome you to do so. I just want to make it clear that I have no intention at this time to help you detract from the Espresso wagon as I think he is clearly scum. If you are able to convince me otherwise, however, then I'm open to that.

I don't mind replacing into a long game, but I want people to understand why I can't blindly sheep at this point.

[Csareo]

When are people (aside from Csareo) going to realize that I ALWAYS look like scum. For fucks sake. It's getting extremely difficult to play on this site because I keep getting lynched all the time!

Quoting TSO, "Maybe one day you'll realize you're always scum read, and stop doing whatever it is that makes you look like scum"

[Csareo]

Anyways, from what I've read expresso seems town. There is a whole lot I haven't read though.

[Csareo]

Espresso is scum here.

Csareo, Espresso isn't town

because

he was lynched in other games incorrectly, you need to have reasons why he is town in this particular game. I can tell you the difference between his play here and his town games, I have looked at it, you tell me why this game is consistent with his towngame.

If you can show me how his meta is different from his other games, then I'll support a lynch.

[Csareo]

My problem is that we're on D3 and there isn't a half convincing case on any player.
Has expresso claimed? If so, where is it?
This can all be said tommorow, VOTE: expresso

@Slandaar- I am voting because expresso, combined with his lack of scum hunting and effort, actually jokes a lot as scum, so I have both meta and evidence.
I have this terrible feeling he'll flip town though.

[Csareo]

My question did go unanswered. Something is off about this lynch.
It might have something to do with the extreme lack of evidence on expresso, or it could be how not one person has defended expresso.
IF he were scum, I highly doubt his scum buddies would of been as silent as they were.

TBH, this is looking pretty grim, and indecisive me is going to UNVOTE: expresso
Sorry, but I can't fully commit to something like this.

[Csareo]

My question did go unanswered. Something is off about this lynch.
It might have something to do with the extreme lack of evidence on expresso, or it could be how not one person has defended expresso.
IF he were scum, I highly doubt his scum buddies would of been as silent as they were.

TBH, this is looking pretty grim, and indecisive me is going to UNVOTE: expresso
Sorry, but I can't fully commit to something like this.

[Csareo]

That doublepost

[Csareo]

cs have you caught up? did you see anything that we've missed? what are your thoughts on other people?

I can't judge anyone ATM, as every post has been "expresso, expresso!!!". I haven't caught up though.
Trying, but I've been pretty busy.

[Csareo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: espessojet

Vote justification?

[Csareo]

kush you got replaced

LOL, by me!

[Csareo]

Urgh, this is killing me. I've read most of what is important, skipped the rest.
Expresso's meta is exactly like his scum meta according to slandaar, but the whole situation seems lousy.
If he's put at L-1, maybe then I'll consider hammering, but I'm not liking this one bit.

[Csareo]

Okay, committing to a expresso lynch, not being indecisive any longer.
VOTE: expressojet