Policy Discussion: moderators editing players' posts

[Zindaras]

This is a bit of a tangent, but I'd like to ask it anyway:

How do you think vote counts should be done? I personally prefer seeing the mod post them, so I can use the View All Posts By User function to make a voting analysis, but I see a lot of people editing them in.

I've not seen a lot of it happening, but I suspect that's because I'm religious about getting a new post up near the top of each new page. Usually players start posting vote counts (hopefully marked "unofficial") when the mod starts to drift off or be absent, or posting goes nuts for a brief time (see the deadline period of Methodical Mafia's Day 1, when we cranked out like 5 pages in 12 hours).

I mean mods editing vote counts in at the top of a page.

[somestrangeflea]

This is a bit of a tangent, but I'd like to ask it anyway:

How do you think vote counts should be done? I personally prefer seeing the mod post them, so I can use the View All Posts By User function to make a voting analysis, but I see a lot of people editing them in.

I've not seen a lot of it happening, but I suspect that's because I'm religious about getting a new post up near the top of each new page. Usually players start posting vote counts (hopefully marked "unofficial") when the mod starts to drift off or be absent, or posting goes nuts for a brief time (see the deadline period of Methodical Mafia's Day 1, when we cranked out like 5 pages in 12 hours).

I mean mods editing vote counts in at the top of a page.

I would edit vote counts into the first post of every page (or, just try to

make

the first post on a page), at the

very

top of pagess, so that players can see how the votecount progresses simply by scrolling through the pages.

[Mr Stoofer]

I often edit player's posts when they make a stupid mistake, like hammering in lylo when they didn't realise it was lylo. There's nothing wrong with that is there?

[somestrangeflea]

I often edit player's posts when they make a stupid mistake, like hammering in lylo when they didn't realise it was lylo. There's nothing wrong with that is there?

That's fine, I do a similar thing...

I always delete posts if scum quicklynch in LyLo, because quicklynching isn't fair to the town.

[JDodge]

I reverse the quicklynch after it happens because I didn't tell people how many it was to lynch

REMEMBER THAT ONE FLEA?

[somestrangeflea]

I reverse the quicklynch after it happens because I didn't tell people how many it was to lynch

REMEMBER THAT ONE FLEA?

I lol'd.

That was an epic fail all round...

Ahh, the memories...!

[Mr. Flay]

I mean mods editing vote counts in at the top of a page.

Oh, never seen that. I'd be irritated.

[Adel]

I mean mods editing vote counts in at the top of a page.

I don't care for it either. I think mods should only edit if there is something like a metatron meltdown, or if it is racist or something, or if it specifically requested in the thread.

[HackerHuck]

Zindy, are you referencing the vote-counts in Consulmaker? i was a bit flummoxed by those, since it was near impossible to find them in thread without skimming each page. I don't think the reduction in total posts outweighs the difficulty in finding past vote counts.

[The Fonz]

I mean mods editing vote counts in at the top of a page.

Oh, never seen that. I'd be irritated.

Lawrencelot does that. I'm not sure how i feel- on the one hand, it's convenient when doing a general re-read, otoh it makes it impossible to isolate the vote counts to get a feel on the flow of a game by searching the mod's posts.

And I'd never fix spelling, simply because I've breadcrumbed by way of spelling mistake before.

[Glork]

it makes it impossible to isolate the vote counts to get a feel on the flow of a game by searching the mod's posts.

QFT.

[Mr Stoofer]

Also, if I make a mistake in a Vote Count, I go back and change the players' votes so that my Vote Count becomes correct.

[Seol]

Is it ethical to edit your own posts in a game you're moderating if you're editing the ones for the alt you're playing in it as?

[Kelly Chen]

Only in a themed game.

[somestrangeflea]

Kind of off-topic, but I didn't want to make a new thread solely for this question.

Why do many mods have "Do not edit or delete your posts." as a rule, when it's not possible to do so?

I have an inkling as to what the answer is, but I wanna make sure...

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

So I (or any other player with mod powers) don't have a huge advantage over all the other players?

[somestrangeflea]

So I (or any other player with mod powers) don't have a huge advantage over all the other players?

Thought so, but it never hurts to ask...

[IH]

I think it's totally ethical to edit in the phrase "Lynch me" in the bottom of each players posts.

[Mr. Flay]

Why do many mods have "Do not edit or delete your posts." as a rule, when it's not possible to do so?

I have an inkling as to what the answer is, but I wanna make sure...

The site used to be set up so that any forum you had mod privs in (Little Italy, for example), you could edit/delete ANY post in that forum. Our technomage, JEEP, changed that sometime earlier this year (?) so that you can only edit posts in threads you start, or where you've been assigned the rights as "backup/replacement mod".

The old way only applies to List Moderators now, as far as I can tell... but it's still a good idea to remind people, just not as necessary.

[Yosarian2]

[*]Remove/blank double-posts

Not in general. If somone accidenly posts like 10 times in a row (I remember that happening a lot back during one of the crashes, lol), then perhaps.

[*]Spellcheck (except Macros)

Nope.

[*]Complete/fix broken formatting tags

Sometimes, if needed for clarity's sake.

[*]Remove personal attacks (on request?)

Never.

[*]Fix unintentional smilies (8) for example)

Meh. Dosn't matter either way.

[*]Remove accidental outing of roles (for any game) or personal information (home phone, last name, SSN, etc)

Personal information, yeah. If you slip and say something about the game you're currently in, don't rememove it unless it somehow badly unbalances the game (like illegally posting an entire role PM might do in some games). If you slip and say something about another game, eh...probably not, unless you're accidently or intentionally violating site rules (posting a PM from one game in another game, ect).

[*]Add missing formatting

Nope.

[*]Anything they're asked to do in thread/via PM[/list]Keep in mind that (AFAIK) a moderator editing another post in their own thread does

not

get the

"

This post edited one time.

"

text at the bottom.

Not if it's game related.

[Yosarian2]

And about Zind's question, I agree that it's better to just post the votecount when the mod makes it rather then edit it in on top of the page. It makes it a pain to find the votecounts, to figure out exactally when the mod did the vote-count, to tell the difference between an offical vote-count and one a player did, and it's just generally more confusing.

[HackerHuck]

And I'd never fix spelling, simply because I've breadcrumbed by way of spelling mistake before.

I'll keep this in mind next time I play with you...

[Oman]

Also, if I make a mistake in a Vote Count, I go back and change the players' votes so that my Vote Count becomes correct.

Mr Stoofer, does it hurt to be so full of win?

[Mr Stoofer]

A little.