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Post #115 (isolation #4) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:15 pm
Postby StrangerCoug »
The problem is that I don't really trust you right now. Yes, I accepted the mission, but if that particular mission failed, then I would have a good lead. How would a team of FWTJR, STD, lilith, and me give us "jack shit" if the mission fails?
In post 115, StrangerCoug wrote:The problem is that I don't really trust you right now. Yes, I accepted the mission, but if that particular mission failed, then I would have a good lead. How would a team of FWTJR, STD, lilith, and me give us "jack shit" if the mission fails?
Who is scum if that mission fails
I don't think it stands a good chance to be lilith, so one of FWTJR and STD. If two people fail the mission, those are the two I'd be going after. For only one, I'd have to take a closer look at them.
In post 117, BBmolla wrote:Like tbf I have townreads basically only on the two players who were on the mission, everyone else is unimpressive.
Very well, then, who are your scumreads? Why are the reads you do have the way they are?
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Post #120 (isolation #6) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:57 pm
Postby StrangerCoug »
In post 119, BBmolla wrote:If you think those two players would be the scummiest people on the mission why did you suggest to have them on it
This question does not make logical sense. In theory, anybody, including me, could be scum. We have no concrete information on who that could be right now. lilith is the strongest townread other than me in my proposed set, and FWTJR and STD are equal in my eyes. So they would be PoE'd out as my suspects. The assumption that the mission would fail was fine for #116, but here you're asking me to justify my suggesting including scum reads on a mission when the scum reads are conditional on an event that hasn't happened yet and is not guaranteed to.
In post 119, BBmolla wrote:Do you think BNL is scummier than both of them?
Well, obviously If I didn't, then I would have substituted him for at least one of them, now would I?
You're trying to take off two people who I think are town and instead put two people I think are scum onto the mission
I don't see what's iffy SC.
I'll concede that we don't know which one of those is in the right as regards those two right now, but I can't find any explanation from you for those two reads. If you disagree with my reads on them, then take your own advice and don't accept the mission if those two go on there, but bear in mind that disagreement is not inherently scummy.
In post 122, BBmolla wrote:Have you ever heard the expression "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
cause you should always follow it in this game.
The mission you proposed is shit imo and is only useful if it's all town.
a fail on that mission leaves us nowhere and with nothing.
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Post #184 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:23 am
Postby StrangerCoug »
In post 183, BBmolla wrote:If I'm being real I passed the second cause I didn't want to wait another week for mission 2 (selecting new mission, getting that one accepted, etc)
In post 183, BBmolla wrote:If I'm being real I passed the second cause I didn't want to wait another week for mission 2 (selecting new mission, getting that one accepted, etc)
Huh?
I said
IF I'M BEING REAL I PASSED THE SECOND CAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK FOR MISSION 2 (SELECTING NEW MISSION, GETTING THAT ONE ACCEPTED, ETC)
Explain please. I don't intend to accept any more missions with you on it at this point.
Right now my strongest two objections are to having Jal and BBM on the team. I refuse to send them, so don't bother trying to convince me otherwise. lilith2013 I intend to have stay on there. Other than those, I'm fairly open right now and want to hear you guys out.
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Post #218 (isolation #17) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:48 am
Postby StrangerCoug »
I'm going to send a team this afternoon. lilith I'm sending, pablito I want to send based on his #205, and I want to try to get support for two others.
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Post #237 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:20 am
Postby StrangerCoug »
In post 235, BNL wrote:Did anyone notice that the votes on this mission are the EXACT OPPOSITE of the previous mission? Not sure what to make out of it, though.
You're right. I was worried when Jal approving my mission.
I'm not accepting any mission proposal from Jal no matter what (I'm taking your strategy), but I was thinking of having you on the next one that goes through. Still don't want BBmolla or Jal on any of the missions.
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Post #251 (isolation #23) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:33 pm
Postby StrangerCoug »
In post 247, BBmolla wrote:We should do the team that got rejected + 1, I'm with Flum here.
I am not sure what difference that will make in the voting. Rejecting a mission and then accepting one with all of the same members plus additions requires a pretty damn good explanation.
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Post #269 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:24 am
Postby StrangerCoug »
...Did everybody except Jal seriously reject the mission? xD I was expecting scumbuddy info from the voting... but then again, Jal could be an easy bus, so I don't exactly know what to make of it.
BNL on is a definite thing, as are Jal and BBmolla off. At lease one of FWTJR/Pablito are definitely scum, and if only one of them is, then I think Bowser's the fourth. I'm considering burning through "no" votes on all three of them just to be safe and trusting Fluminator with my life.
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Post #296 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:00 pm
Postby StrangerCoug »
What is scummy about asking them to explain their votes? I had no pro-town reason to accept the mission, since lilith2013 is clear for all intents and purposes and both FTWJR and pablito were on the mission I proposed when it failed.
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Post #298 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:45 pm
Postby StrangerCoug »
That you listened to them and didn't put me on is fine in and of itself, but you needed a strong reason to believe that pablito was more likely to be town than me for you putting him on in my place to make sense. That you "thought he wouldn't be controversial" is very weak reasoning to put him on this late in the game and better would be to have us both off. Don't expect me to support any mission with you on it from here on out, Jelly.
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Post #304 (isolation #29) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:17 am
Postby StrangerCoug »
In post 303, ForWhomTheJellyRolls wrote:SC for crying out loud. I thought the vote would have been rejected for sure if you were on the team. I thought it might pass if pablito was on it because no one fucking said a thing about him until after they rejected it. If you want to call me scum for trying to make a mission pass, then do so. We'd be right back here except maybe we wouldn't be scum reading each other.
I already said that my being on the team was not a factor in terms of my read on you. Since you've admitted that you don't get it, then I'm going to spell it out for you:
lilith2013 is pretty much conftown since everybody voted for exactly one of BNL's mission and mine and she was on both. Since it was my mission that went through and the mission failed, at least one of you, pablito, and me has to be scum. You failed to take that into account when selecting your team. Nobody should be accepting any mission with two people from our group without a solid reason why the third is scum.
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Post #314 (isolation #30) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:28 am
Postby StrangerCoug »
In post 312, Jal wrote:StrangerCoug, I don't understand why you wouldn't ask about this stuff before the vote went through if you had such intense misgivings.
If you're referring to the time between FWTJR's proposal and the votes coming back, then that's conceded, but we're one failed mission away from a loss, and I really don't like FWTJR's stated motivation for picking the team that he did. This is where we have to be pretty analytical. (Bowser's generally being useless, especially at this stage, is why I don't like him.) I'm pretty solid on three of my four scum picks: those two and you. BBmolla's early interactions with me still leave me with a bad taste in my mouth, but my read on him is weakening as I focus more on the votes and their reasoning.
If I didn't, then I would have substituted him for at least one of them, now would I?