Open 624 Fire and Ice - Fire Mafia Wins

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Day 1, Votecount 2

Viva La Gloria

(3): beeboy, Aristophanes, Something_Smart

Shinobi

(2): Viva La Gloria, Supreme Overlord

Cobalting

(2): SnarkySnowman, TheShadow

SnarkySnowman

(1): Shinobi

ika

(1): Cobalting

Not Voting (4):

lilac, ika, BrightEyedFish, Masquerade,

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or to no lynch.

Deadline

: Monday, February 8, 2016 9:00 am (Texas time)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2016-02-08 09:00:00)

[Aristophanes]

Oh lol there's two SS's.
Aristo, do you think Viva is scum? Or do you just want to pressure him?
I don't think that logic was necessarily scum logic, but it was bad, so I'm okay with this.
VOTE: Viva

I think his posts have a good chance of being from scum and want to pressure him because of it.

Thanks!

[Viva La Gloria]

Oh lol there's two SS's.
Aristo, do you think Viva is scum? Or do you just want to pressure him?

Why do you care?
You want me wagoned you have a vote. Why are you looking the gift horse in the mouth?

I don't think that logic was necessarily scum logic, but it was bad, so I'm okay with this.

You keep this up you're consenting to being autolynched when Shinobi flips scum.

[Something_Smart]

I care because Aristo did not say he was scumreading you, he just said the page was "dumb". So I wanted to clarify.
And nobody's going to get autolynched. I don't even think Shinobi's town; I have him at null right now because he's done nothing but challenge people.

[Masquerade]

...And?

RVSing is normal.
You participate in RVS normally and don't have an established history of attacking it.

You called people out on the first page for doing RVS votes and asked them who their legitimate scumreads are, like they should have them. That's absolute nonsense.

Good point.

You're not really describing anything that actually relates to scum motivation either.
You're just pointing to a thing and saying "this is different!" without any sense of context. It seems rather silly.

Good point too.

Awkward and bizarre behaviour is scum indicative because you're uncomfortable playing scum and make weird plays trying too hard to look like you're scumhunting in pursuit of trying to look towny.
I have context; I've read a bunch of your games' RVSes. This is not normal at all.

Ok, I guess.

Shinobi gives me the feeling that he's trying to avoid being suspected. Which he's not doing a very good job at.

VOTE: Shinobi

[Masquerade]

Yes, I ended that sentence with a preposition.

[Something_Smart]

If Shinobi was trying to avoid being suspected, why would he enter in a provocative way rather than RVSing like normal?

[Shinobi]

...And?

RVSing is normal.
You participate in RVS normally and don't have an established history of attacking it.

You called people out on the first page for doing RVS votes and asked them who their legitimate scumreads are, like they should have them. That's absolute nonsense.

Good point.

You're not really describing anything that actually relates to scum motivation either.
You're just pointing to a thing and saying "this is different!" without any sense of context. It seems rather silly.

Good point too.

Awkward and bizarre behaviour is scum indicative because you're uncomfortable playing scum and make weird plays trying too hard to look like you're scumhunting in pursuit of trying to look towny.
I have context; I've read a bunch of your games' RVSes. This is not normal at all.

Ok, I guess.

Shinobi gives me the feeling that he's trying to avoid being suspected. Which he's not doing a very good job at.

VOTE: Shinobi

Considering that you jumped on my wagon simply because somebody else said "they read my games and thinks that this isn't normal" I'd say you are easily the scummiest person on my wagon.

VOTE: masquerade

[Shinobi]

Dear everyone voting VLG/me over masquerade - please switch.
If you don't want to switch, please explain why.

[Viva La Gloria]

Yeah, Masquerade's response was pretty awful.
But I'm still pretty damn sure Shinobi is scum.
You guys can be different scumteams mmk?

VOTE: Masquerade

[Viva La Gloria]

Nah fk it protest vote.
VOTE: Shinobi
This is still scum.

[Shinobi]

Nah fk it protest vote.
VOTE: Shinobi
This is still scum.

Why, even?

[Shinobi]

Forget it - I'll just do my own thing and pursue you later if you continue to post ignorant drivel. Nothing I'm interested in dealing with right now.

[Viva La Gloria]

Signature bets are banned, correct?
Otherwise I'd be so on.

[Shinobi]

Signature bets are banned, correct?
Otherwise I'd be so on.

Alright, change of plans - what exactly has made you so totally confident that I'm scum?

[beeboy]

I can confidently say I have no reads right now.

[Aristophanes]

I can confidently say I have no reads right now.

Much helpful.
So wow.

[Viva La Gloria]

You colossally slipped up on page 1 and the rest of your play has been an incredibly forced attempt to look like a good boy scumhunter.
Where do you think you get off asking people what their 'other townreads' are and criticizing RVS votes on the first page?
Riddle me this batman.

[Shinobi]

You colossally slipped up on page 1 and the rest of your play has been an incredibly forced attempt to look like a good boy scumhunter.

Where do you think you get off asking people what their 'other townreads' are and criticizing RVS votes on the first page?

Riddle me this batman.

Someone trying to push the game forward.
To the bolded: it actually comes off as if you're sort of offended here? Is that what's happening here or am I misinterpreting your tone?

[Shinobi]

Aristo - while you're here, can you give me your opinion on masquerade?

[Aristophanes]

Aristo - while you're here, can you give me your opinion on masquerade?

Not a fan. Lazy, sheeping start on a point he didn't even seem convinced on. Plus, saying you look like you're trying to blend in?
Not even close.

Would consider wagoning.

[beeboy]

Much helpful.
So wow.

Waiting on The Shadow, Ika, Lilac, BrightEyedFish (prob missing someone) to post something.

I could tunnel in on posts that mean little to nothing to get a reaction but that would make it to easy for late arriving scum to hop on a wagon and blend in without having to make real opinions for themselves.

[Shinobi]

Much helpful.
So wow.

Waiting on The Shadow, Ika, Lilac, BrightEyedFish (prob missing someone) to post something.

I could tunnel in on posts that mean little to nothing to get a reaction but that would make it to easy for late arriving scum to hop on a wagon and blend in without having to make real opinions for themselves.

It sounds like masquerade's giant post follows the sort of thing you're talking about in yet you haven't commented on it. Why?

[beeboy]

It sounds like masquerade's giant post follows the sort of thing you're talking about in yet you haven't commented on it. Why?

I don't know if you mean you on masquerade or masquerade on you.

For you on masquerade, I wouldn't call 2 votes and an opinion tunneling and making it easy on scum to fit in.

For masquerade on you, I don't see people voting you a problem the statement that you are trying to hard to look town is bad in the sense that there is no evidence to back that up which doesn't indicate scum just a lazy claim unless Masq can't follow up with evidence to support that claim. There is a difference between stealing ideas to fit in and having your own opinion on someone currently being pressured.

[Viva La Gloria]

VOTE: Masquerade

Shinobi will be useful regardless of alignment I feel, and is highly likely to be crosskilled if he's scum.
I'd be seriously mad if he is left alive to LyLo but I still like this wagon and am good following it.