Its reads ordered in the "Town" at the top and each level is where they reside such as duppin is leaning town and middle would be "Null" and the bottom is scum.
They are a terrible way to organize thoughts.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted
I do not play like bringer, stop comparing me to bringer.
I predict a slow D1 if Aristo isn't gonna post often
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 76, TellTaleHeart wrote:You must have memory loss, old man. You obviously read my post.
I am getting to old to kill all the scum, one day i will select an heir to be the Ras Al Ghul. But today is not that day.
Why you so relaxed in your tone TTH? Do you worry about my skills at reading you (even with your calm demeanor its too calm.....)
I just got my Xanax prescription refilled. Thanks for noticing.
In post 95, Elyse wrote:I'm guessing FA is going to say I'm scum with Aris for saying that FA is looked upon favorably for the Aris wagon which is stupid since I obviously meant that he's at the forefront of the Aris push. He looks good for scumhunting and stuff. And I'm also scumreading Aris, so if you incorrectly interpreted it as me saying he'll look good because Aris is flipping scum, that's in line with my reads.
If it's something else then idk lol.
Its word choices and tone.
First off lets show case it:
. Postie's FA suspicion just doesn't seem like something scum
would do right now.
This rings of awareness of what scum is likely to do in a certain scenario and words "right now" bring attention that they could act in this way, but aren't doing it yet.
Aris is getting run up, there's some heat on me, FA is probably getting looked upon favorably because of the Aris wagon.
Hyper awareness of the situation. Scum are usually the most aware players of scenarios.
It'd be a weird time for him to switch focus onto FA under no pressure as scum. It just feels genuine.
Timing is key in this section. The idea is that they are aware of what will and won't look good for scum to do in certain scenarios at certain moments in time. Elyse is looking at the game in the perspective as a scum player. They are not looking at it from the perspective of it in the terms they are town and how scum would act, but what they would personally do. This is what I am seeing.
In post 95, Elyse wrote:I'm guessing FA is going to say I'm scum with Aris for saying that FA is looked upon favorably for the Aris wagon which is stupid since I obviously meant that he's at the forefront of the Aris push. He looks good for scumhunting and stuff. And I'm also scumreading Aris, so if you incorrectly interpreted it as me saying he'll look good because Aris is flipping scum, that's in line with my reads.
If it's something else then idk lol.
Its word choices and tone.
First off lets show case it:
. Postie's FA suspicion just doesn't seem like something scum
would do right now.
This rings of awareness of what scum is likely to do in a certain scenario and words "right now" bring attention that they could act in this way, but aren't doing it yet.
Aris is getting run up, there's some heat on me, FA is probably getting looked upon favorably because of the Aris wagon.
Hyper awareness of the situation. Scum are usually the most aware players of scenarios.
It'd be a weird time for him to switch focus onto FA under no pressure as scum. It just feels genuine.
Timing is key in this section. The idea is that they are aware of what will and won't look good for scum to do in certain scenarios at certain moments in time. Elyse is looking at the game in the perspective as a scum player. They are not looking at it from the perspective of it in the terms they are town and how scum would act, but what they would personally do. This is what I am seeing.
Wow this is so bad.
Fire, please exlpain in detail why
In post 102, BNL wrote:My townread on Fire comes from post 96. I liked his case on Elyse.
lol
That case is shit.
More deep, epic insight from the goddess of Mafia.
Other than the fact it's against you, why is the case shit?
It's literally "Elyse is aware of what's going on in this game and is looking at it from a perspective of 'what scum would do'". No shit. That's how I scumhunt.
Long(er) answer: Post 109 is simplistic and strawman-y regarding Fire's points and a tad heavy handed on the defense. Personally, I thought your Postie read outlined in Post 88 was a
little
bit of a bizarre position to have in the context of your Ari scum read (why
wouldn't
Postie, as scum, push an alternate wagon that she felt like she would be able to justify?). So declaring you town and taking your side here with Fire Assassin is coming on a little strong and, yes, like "buddying." That is, if you're into buzzwords that only approximate my thoughts on the matter.
Postie couldn't really justify the wagon. She had a hard time explaining her read. That's part of the reason why it struck me as so town. The purpose of the FA switch wasn't to distract from current wagons or start a quick counter wagon because, at least from my PoV, her vote isn't something anyone will follow.
I might agree with your premise if Postie were either very green or an exceptionally slow learner but she strikes me as neither. I feel like you're using a framework for a newbie to intermediate-level player on a lot more of an advanced player.
In post 118, TellTaleHeart wrote:I might agree with your premise if Postie were either very green or an exceptionally slow learner but she strikes me as neither. I feel like you're using a framework for a newbie to intermediate-level player on a lot more of an advanced player.
I don't understand what you're saying here at all, TTH.
OK, I'll put it more bluntly and less nicely: any scum player worth half a shit could've easily made the post you did. "Having trouble articulating" a read can be gamed by even the most elementary scum players. (I have a pathetic scum game and I do that. It gets town reads, likely because "uncertainty" is pretty closely associated with "uninformed." But now I'm sort of getting off on a tangent. @_@)
In post 118, TellTaleHeart wrote:I might agree with your premise if Postie were either very green or an exceptionally slow learner but she strikes me as neither. I feel like you're using a framework for a newbie to intermediate-level player on a lot more of an advanced player.
Oh, yeah, I get that. I just wasn't following how that relates to Elyse's argument about my push being unlikely to come from scum because it isn't the kind of push people can sheep, so it's not effective at derailing the Aristo wagon.
In post 109, Postie wrote:Wow this is so bad.
Fire, please exlpain in detail why paying attention to the game is scummy.
I didn't say paying attention to the game was scummy? I was saying that Elyse perspective was more from a scum perspective in terms of awareness level and what would look good or bad for those alignments at the moment in time. It seemed not from a town perspective in that they weren't saying the actions were scummy or not, they just said it would look
bad
meaning could look scummy to town players.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted
I do not play like bringer, stop comparing me to bringer.
Postie couldn't really justify the wagon. She had a hard time explaining her read. That's part of the reason why it struck me as so town. The purpose of the FA switch wasn't to distract from current wagons or start a quick counter wagon because, at least from my PoV, her vote isn't something anyone will follow.
You have too much awareness of the player base actions in a scenario. VOTE: Elsye
Nothing is true, everything is permitted
I do not play like bringer, stop comparing me to bringer.
