STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

...i don't agree with it either. but Rational didn't have a problem with a reasoning, they seemed to not understand what kraska was even saying, and was viewing it as a slip.

This is still Ewwww. The focus was more on the fact they referred to McMenno as lone scum, and there's no reason to believe that any town player should be looking for solo scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm looking for volunteers to ally with me.

There is chocolate.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Newbtown = someone new to mafia who is making posts that look like thoughts town would make the first time they play mafia
For example you usually see lots of apologizing for little things, analysis over game mechanics, openly discussing reads very early on, etc
It's like how I played in my first forum mafia game where I was town

i know the definition, i was asking how it applied to me. still, thank you for the information.

You were doing these things early on, which is how it applies to you. Thought that was clear, mb.

It's not even the question I found scummy, it was the way it was worded
"oh I don't know what to do my scumreads get all townie all the time give me things to do" etc

*shrug* Still you neutered it. Half of what I look for is the reactions I get when fishing for reads. Who defends whom? Who votes the opposite wagon under pressure? Push comes to shove, where do the values lie?

Anyone who has played with RR knows that straight up asking them for reads doesn't work and I wanted to sort the nebulous things around them (NC not having a read there). I can and do feel lost without reactions.

We have lost that baseline for judging RR.

-_-
They might have still answered it the way you wanted but now they probably won't.

Agreed, but with the focus on how scummy the question is neither alignment would.

[Not Chara]

I'm looking for volunteers to ally with me.

There is chocolate.

my only weakness. but alas, i'm tied to the healthy snack instead.

[SirCakez]

ffs

[Not Chara]

...i don't agree with it either. but Rational didn't have a problem with a reasoning, they seemed to not understand what kraska was even saying, and was viewing it as a slip.

This is still Ewwww. The focus was more on the fact they referred to McMenno as lone scum, and there's no reason to believe that any town player should be looking for solo scum.

i... now don't understand this.
'lone scum' refers to a hypothetical scum player who isn't in a hydra... what does that have to do with hunting?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

...i don't agree with it either. but Rational didn't have a problem with a reasoning, they seemed to not understand what kraska was even saying, and was viewing it as a slip.

This is still Ewwww. The focus was more on the fact they referred to McMenno as lone scum, and there's no reason to believe that any town player should be looking for solo scum.

i... now don't understand this.
'lone scum' refers to a hypothetical scum player who isn't in a hydra... what does that have to do with hunting?

And I didn't buy that as the context. Nor did RR (at least one of the heads) evidently.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)

y?

because lone scum is unlikely to approach a town hydra for an ally

This is the context. Searching for an SK is outright scummy and suggests Kraska isn't town because he thinks McMenno could be an SK. Hence why lone scum had to be explained.

[Not Chara]

but what else would it mean? why wouldn't town be looking for scum?

pedit: oh. 'lone scum' refers to a Serial Killer.
that's just confusing.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

NC can you put forth your reads just off the cuff where your gut says in town v null v scum?

[Not Chara]

sure, that's easy.

town: CoolDoG, farside, Firebringer, grapes, kraska, randomidget
null: OWK, mastin, McMenno, Skybird, SirCakez
scum: Rational, Almost50, Creature

anyone not mentioned, i don't have a read on. players in the null category are those i can't make up my mind about.

[Klingoncelt]

Who doesn't have an alliance set up?

I don't.

[Not Chara]

oh, Klingon goes in town as well.

[Klingoncelt]

Hilariously stupid idea if you're legit given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

Yep.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I'm not sure about Mastin's Miller-like claim though. The way my Role PM's worded, I'm pretty sure that

I'm

the Miller.

Oh no.
I'm 100%, certifiably, a miller.
There's no ambiguity in role PM wording.
I really want to prod you more about this, because if your claim has a real miller ability, there's some ways that you'd be able to prove it to me (speaking as someone who is a miller, soyeah, I know), but, yaknow. Hilariously stupid idea if you're legit given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

Hilariously stupid idea if you're legit given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

Yep.

Umm did Grandma just agree with Mastina calling her play dumb?

[Klingoncelt]

I'm not sure about Mastin's Miller-like claim though. The way my Role PM's worded, I'm pretty sure that

I'm

the Miller.

Oh no.
I'm 100%, certifiably, a miller.
There's no ambiguity in role PM wording.
I really want to prod you more about this, because if your claim has a real miller ability, there's some ways that you'd be able to prove it to me (speaking as someone who is a miller, soyeah, I know), but, yaknow. Hilariously stupid idea if you're legit given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

Hilariously stupid idea if you're legit given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

Yep.

Umm did Grandma just agree with Mastina calling her play dumb?

"

... given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

"

[Almost50]

Ok.. I have most of you at NULL still, so there's that. I'm struggling to see how some players are already making read lists (Mastina even provided a full list!!!!).

OK, let me be specific: Why are .. (a) grapes getting globally town read, and (b) RR getting globally scum read?

[Not Chara]

there are 26 pages. even subtracting the fluff and trolling, and taking into account the lack of voting... there is plenty of material for reads.

why is grapes not very towny to you, and why is Rational not scum to you?

[Klingoncelt]

I'm looking for volunteers to ally with me.

There is chocolate.

I'll ally with you.

Chocolate is a very important food group.

So is caffeine.

[Klingoncelt]

Updated list.

MAKE SURE BOTH OF YOU SUBMIT YOUR ALLIANCE REQUESTS!

Alliances:
grapes/chara
fire/shiro
obi/rr
skybird/foxbird
cakes/a50
yume/farside
randomidget/Creature
CooLDoG/Seraphim
McMenno/kraskaesque
DrippingGoofball/Klingoncelt (pending)

Unaligned:
SnarkySnowman
Xkfyu
killthestory
TheWayItEnds

[kraskaesque]

that's normally when you ask for clarification instead of outright discredit someone

whats wrong with discrediting baseless reads? for instance, our iso was just film-talk at the time you made that post
and if you were echoing farfar on our reach out post(which was only fooling around anyway) being icky, then people had even pointed out that seasonfinale isnt endgame by that time. i dont remember who else was in your scum pool rn but i didnt see where the other reads came from either. it looked like busywork

Yea here's my issue. That thing you just did.
You're subscribing a bunch of random thought processes to what you think I based my reads on (and, spoilers, none of those things are reasons why I called the people scum that I did).

And circling back to your initial post where you called them shit; that's at least a bit more consistent than what you're pedaling here - that you actually care about how I got there. But that was about an hour or 2 ago before you realized that grapes is a real one and you can't get away with running your mouth.

You want my reasoning on my reads because you need something to grapple with. Because you don't have substance of your own on what you disagreed with. You're out for appearances.

You're scum.

Lmao I don't care what ur reasoning for the read is. Bc I know you don't have any. But if you're going to ask me why I don't get to discredit your reads, you're gonna have to explain them

[kraskaesque]

mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)

y?

because lone scum is unlikely to approach a town hydra for an ally

This is the context. Searching for an SK is outright scummy and suggests Kraska isn't town because he thinks McMenno could be an SK. Hence why lone scum had to be explained.

...that's What u decided it means

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm looking for volunteers to ally with me.

There is chocolate.

I'll ally with you.

Chocolate is a very important food group.

So is caffeine.

OK hag let's do it

[Almost50]

why is grapes not very towny to you, and why is Rational not scum to you?

Not only have you not provided an ANSWER to my question, but you're trying to bounce it back on me???!!!

I said I have NULL reads on MOST players. For example, I don't see a single scummy (or townie) thing Cerb/Drixx have posted. I don't see why they are HEAVILY scum read by the majority. I could also ask Mastina why YOU are at the very bottom of her read lists, but I went for the two GLOBAL READS for starters.

Now you do realize this is still the PREQUEL phase, and "trollers" would be more inclined to troll even more since the game is still warming up phase (I look at it as the practice session in formula One races). Also the lazy lurkers will be even more lurky at this point. That aside, nobody has yet done much (I say "done" because I'd probably rely more of action that speech in these kinds of games, meaning if you scum read someone heavily but do not actually vote and push them that strong then I'd be linking you both rather than disassociating you.)

Now, let me repeat my question: WHY is grapes town to you, and why is the RR slot scummy? and -and this is a bonus for you- why am

I

scummy?

[Not Chara]

sorry, i must have forgotten you'd asked me a question. why are you aggressively capitalizing words at me?
to follow, why are you explaining things to me that i did not ask? this response is very... charged, and i don't know where it's coming from.
i'll answer in a second.