Dunn, drealmz, Shaziro are town.
Jason scum.
shadow questionable.
In post 127, JasonWazza wrote:VOTE: JasonWazza
I have a decent idea what it is, and i'd be willing to take it.
And as a side note, assuming Mafia knows what places are bad/what places have items, we have to suspect anyone who wanted to stay in the woods/Go to the shops.
We don't know if mafia know or not.
This is a bit pointless.
I mean, I get the town motivation for this speculation, but its groundless currently.
In post 137, JasonWazza wrote: In post 136, Dunnstral wrote:Why are you assuming scum know all the paths?
Why are you assuming this item is good?
Informed Minority, and makes sense for the game mechanic.
I know what the item is, and it benefits my class well if i'm right as to what it does.
SHAZIRO:
Tinfoil Theory. Does Strand want/require any of these items for some nefarious purpose? Or are they just loot for us?
Because it would make sense, if he needs them, to have foreknowledge of what he needs/where they are.
I ask because Jason just provided knowledge of what an item is.
Which I'm not ruling out for role-related but still.
This I agree with. On the grounds of Miller.
In post 177, shaddowez wrote: In post 171, JasonWazza wrote:It's not like a black mage will be a doctor, so if you can relate something to what it's possible equivalents are then you likely have an idea of what something can do.
I get the first part. Regarding the second part, this is Mafia, not D&D. I don't know if its the fact that I don't have the flavor knowledge that may be blinding me here, but I look at it this way.
Imagine this is some generic D&D magic item, like a Ring of Protection. We don't have AC here, so it has to do something else. Obviously it will be a protective ability in some manner, but that could be Bulletproof, or Doctor, or possibly even Bodyguard. I may be the only person seeing it this way, but from you saying things along the lines of "My class will benefit the most", it sounds like you
which of the three it would be.
If the flavor makes it that much more obvious, do you really think its more helpful to town to be this secretive about what it does?
This man has a good point.
In post 178, JasonWazza wrote:I do believe keeping it secretive is better, for the simple fact that then the Scum don't know how strong/weak it could be and this forces them into a worse spot.
But you just said you believed scum might have foreknowledge of where the items are at least. Which means there's some benefit to them that's item-specific?
In post 179, JasonWazza wrote:Also as an aside, giving the items (in general) to strong town reads is a bad idea, because your just asking for the Scum to start killing them.
Disagree.
No townie should be afraid of death.
In post 200, kuror0 wrote:Ok. some thoughts after my catch up. Jazzon too many assumptions at this point are not useful for town it is good to have your own idea but being locked on them with so many things being uncertain doesn't help.
I think there is a chance some items may be more useful or unlock an ability for a certain role but I doubt every item we get is designed like that.
Now the thing is who we give the item. The best option would be for someone we trust but at this point it is really hard to have a strong town read or anything close imo and most of us would want to get the item just because it is nice to explore the mechanics of the game and stuff. For now I volunteer as a guinea pig to get the item and we can agree to openly say if there is a role specific restriction or that kind of stuff so we can make more informed decision on the objects we get later in the game. That's most of my ideas at this point.
The Jason part I like because I agree so I might be biased here.
The second half doesn't really provide anything new. More theory. hrmmm
Sly is still town.
Dunnstral's vote in 361 is horrid.
shaddows and culted all over it. hooray
culted is town.
pine town.
Persivul tunnelled in on Pine.
phew
In post 457, Persivul wrote: In post 426, Pine wrote:@Culted: Let vig deal with Dunn. If there's no vig in game, we can always lynch him tomorrow.
PEdit: No, they didn't. But now scum have to wonder if I was telling the truth and it's not useful to go after me, or whether I'm bluffing. I figure I may be able to absorb a kill this way. I've stuck my neck out this far and painted a target on my back, I may as well confuse them more. Or not! Fuck you, scum.
Yeah, and town has to wonder if you're putting out an excuse for why you're not being NK'd.
OR if you flip the chessboard over, scum want to lynch a town bulletproof/self-healer since they can't kill him at will.
Kuroi only seems to respond to stuff directed at him.
idgi
In post 493, kuror0 wrote:Kuroi you should try to give your thoughts about what has happened and how you perceive other players instead of going full defensive and ignoring everything else.
THANK YOU
In post 500, Persivul wrote: In post 498, SlySly wrote:I agree with this 100%. I don't agree with lynching Pine though because if we do, he gets to pick who the item goes to. If he dies at night, we get to vote on it.
Lynching scum outweighs the benefit of any item. We don't know that we have a vig.
This is true.
In post 503, Persivul wrote: In post 502, SlySly wrote:I understand where you're coming from, but I'm willing to at least wait through N1 to take Pine out.
If Pine is scum and we don't lynch him, then scum definitely have the item tonight.
If Pine is scum and we do lynch him, then there's a good chance he gives the item to town as wifom, since whomever he gives it to will be a suspect.
The latter is wifom.
He could give it to scum expecting us to believe he gave it to town to paint them red.
He could give it to town expecting us to believe he gave it to scum expecting us to believe he gave it to town to paint them red.
etc
Yeah uh kuror0 could be scum.
Jason still my preferred lynch.
Kuroi useless zzz
