Hectic keeps sending me vaguely threatening letters reminding me I haven't posted in a while. That's probably because I still agree with this.
-Ho
In post 242, Hoptic wrote:Hey Shrek, how are you feeling about Alice now- post 110? It sounds like you both at least somewhat scumread her and she jumps out more as obvtown to us and I think a few other people.
Pooky I've moved from vague suspicions to a reasonable townread. Post 80 is what did it which is kind of odd since it was all RP, but it I liked the smell of it anyway.
-H
In post 276, Hoptic wrote:Egix, what would you say is your strongest scumread at this point and why?
You seemed more inquisitive and proactive in your last town game regarding reads.
~Hecti
these post ~feel~ Scummy to me. They are carrying on engaging with a wide swath of players, askning questions but there’s never really lead to feet in the fire, especially on egix.
Oh, that's a lot of pedits lul. My phone had the couple day old page loaded. Regardless, can't actually catch up until tomorrow probably. I'll see if I can tag Hop in.
pighawk, you're confbiasing in that PageTop. That's perfectly valid scumhunting and not *pushing* your opinions and asking for votes isn't something that's scummy. Look for things that are scummy, not how everything could potentially be
Does anyone else find it strange that a hydra keeps melding the Hawk and Pig opinions into one? Or the fact that a hydra with two players gets prodded?
In post 681, pighawk wrote:Does anyone else find it strange that a hydra keeps melding the Hawk and Pig opinions into one? Or the fact that a hydra with two players gets prodded?
~Hawk
The scum in this 3p is going to try and fit in as hard as possible. So if the two town don’t post the scum won’t. It’s incumbent on the two town players to set the pace. And of course more words are better.
In post 681, pighawk wrote:Does anyone else find it strange that a hydra keeps melding the Hawk and Pig opinions into one? Or the fact that a hydra with two players gets prodded?
~Hawk
The scum in this 3p is going to try and fit in as hard as possible. So if the two town don’t post the scum won’t. It’s incumbent on the two town players to set the pace. And of course more words are better.
yee
that’s why I’m inclined to lean towards chk town because he doesn’t seem like he’s trying to blend in
In post 648, pighawk wrote:in The end it came down to limiting information. We picked the two least vocal players and me. I went in instead of chem for wifom. I think that was basically what it boiled down to.
Hawk?
For me it came down to choosing two other people who were similar in who read who in the state of the game. I was pretty universally town-read, therefore didn't want to go in with other people who were pretty heavily scum-read or I would have stuck out heavily and then the question "Why is he in with these people" would have to be answered.... I also couldn't put myself in with other town-reads because of twilight essential clears...
This would only make sense if you read the previous treestump game.
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
Taking a hydra to this lylo seems like a bad idea mechanically for a scum hydra to make.
Personally I'd say banking on wifom is such a bad way to win. No reason anyone takes Shrek/Alice/Pooky into the lylo. Several people have said 'scum would consider Alice' but she was a UTR except from I think 1 person? Shrek/Pooky also were scumread by nobody I think? Endgame was always going to be 2 out of what we've got/scum that died/sherlock. Feels fairly likely we're here just because scum know we'd be active if we weren't picked & nobody had expressed a townread on us d1/a few had expressed scumreads. We also have scumreads on both of the two other slots pulled in, so mafia know they can potentially sway us either way.
From that last perspective chemist less likely scum since didn't try to appeal to us?
Egix dropped off on activity around when the Pig wagon became definite so it feels like scum were just banking on that then planning to kill Egix. Checking wagon for equity
I feel like Egix knows they get lynched if they stump us or go into endgame with us so not sure how much value we get out of considering them killing the other partner.
Chemist Egix push is at a better time - putting on parity before the L1 throw happened.
In post 454, Hoptic wrote:Either Chkflip is really sharing a wavelength here readswise (Alice, Pooky, Shrek, maybe Chemist) or they're setting things up for later.
@Chkflip- what are your thoughts on the people you haven't townread?
-Hopkir
A big part of my lean toward Chk town when I started was because I'm not convinced Chkflip would do exactly what I expected scum-Chk to do here and take us in.
I'm still not sure about how quickly Chkflip townpiled my top 3 townreads, maybe he's just really good?
Either way they were killing Egix there imo, which explains the lack of quickhammer by either. Egix seems bad for scum to take into endgame for scum here.
Chemist had a good point, I think, about the fact that basically any slot in the game would look good compared to egix in lylo, so putting chkflip in could just be wifom because he looked very scummy from the end of day — but if the alternative was egix, he looks much better
In post 681, pighawk wrote:Does anyone else find it strange that a hydra keeps melding the Hawk and Pig opinions into one? Or the fact that a hydra with two players gets prodded?
~Hawk
The scum in this 3p is going to try and fit in as hard as possible. So if the two town don’t post the scum won’t. It’s incumbent on the two town players to set the pace. And of course more words are better.
yee
that’s why I’m inclined to lean towards chk town because he doesn’t seem like he’s trying to blend in
How exactly do we blend in? Went hard on Pig and were very visible in the thread because of 'humor'. Can't say we were remotely under the radar.
In post 97, Hoptic wrote:How come you haven't made a single comment on my scumread?
how come you haven't made a single comment on your scumread?
you just voted and said you were happy without it without reasoning or even an indication it was serious
Refusing to comment on Pig here and trying to turn it around with a 'whataboutyou'. Whataboutism in generally is deflection and isn't a genuine way of engaging. My follow up wasn't responded to with any thoughts on Pig. Feels like Chemist made a very active decision not to take a stance.
@Any stump request: I really don't have time for meta. Could one of the treestumps look through Chemist's games and see how they normally react to lylos? They took a pretty quick stance this game and it'd be helpful to know if this is alignment indicative for them.
I'm leaning 65-35 Chemist after the reread, but that's a higher 65 than the one I said earlier which was probably more like a 55-60. Still not enough that I'm super happy with it. Want to hear more from both and from the stumps
