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[Rathe]

i agree with 2755

[Rathe]

i dont think there is any other way to do it

[Rathe]

seven players with one mafia i know i am not mafia but u all do not know that

[Rathe]

i still consistently think angela n andres r town jacksonvirgo is town

[Rathe]

that leaves geraintm nero n malcolmtucker

[Rathe]

i believe malcolm has been trying to pocket me for most of the game n i think it was theatre between him and save the dragons

[Rathe]

i think there r ways to create worlds where all of us r mafia but i think it is just malcolm

[Rathe]

vote 2.11 in 2422 i believe tells the story

[Rathe]

if geraintm is town then all three mafia who were trying to save scorpius were on geraintm

[Rathe]

i rly think the game ends with malcolm

[JacksonVirgo]

i rly think the game ends with malcolm

I do too.

[JacksonVirgo]

As soon as put on E-1 I'll hammer. 3 scum in a row, how epic that'd be.

[Andresvmb]

geraintm why would you check me? You thought I could have swung from pushing one of my Partners all day D1, to landing on my other Scum Partner? That makes no sense that’s a terrible check by any standard.

[Andresvmb]

Ah you checked me N2 not N3 okay fine. I can maybe see it there.

[Andresvmb]

Okay so we wouldn’t have gone through the brain damage of executing JV at least. That’s fun.

[Andresvmb]

ok well not dre lol

Okay but seriously, how was I still in your POE?

[Andresvmb]

Like hell am I just going to give a player faith that they are Town

angela’s claim is actually weird. A N1/2/3 Tracker? What kind of gating is that?

[Andresvmb]

In any case, I think Malcolm should probably die first. I’ll activate my brain after that flip.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: Malcolm

[Andresvmb]

E-1

[Andresvmb]

UNVOTE:

[Andresvmb]

Meh I don’t want to rush it. If Malcolm is Town their contributions will be helpful. I should try and actually solve today since there’s probably some use in that.

[MalcolmTucker]

I've gone through Nero and Rathe's ISOs a bit to try and see where we're at but feeling a bit stumped - I think both could potentially be mafia, but I'd struggle to make a committed push for either of them in particularly good faith for reasons that also potentially couldn't apply to me to an extent, especially with Rathe.

Re Rathe - STD continually pushed them but it was a push that never really went either and could have been constructed to create a bit of distance. But, like me, Rathe did vote for STD a point in D1 when I'm not sure it was consistent for them to do so.

Nero has been suspiciously quiet since D1. On D1 they pushed Scorpious a decent bit but then defaulted to NM, and they haven't voted for an elimination since. A record of eliminating townie over mafia, followed by two non-votes on mafia players, is not a good look. But if we weren't unsure I'd be more likely to say they're town based on their Scorpious push.

Personally I really do not think I look mafia re the STD push. I was pretty consistent on calling them out from D1 - I noted that the push on Rathe was fake and that they weren't offering particularly genuine contributions to the game in a way that would have been town. No reason Nero couldn't be partnered with them, I don't think, it's just the Scorpious link that makes me a bit morew unsure.

So as I say I think I look really town here, but I'd also struggle to properly push for an elimination of either Rathe or Nero without some proper further discussion. I struggle to see Geraint/Angela as liars in this scenario or Andre as mafia given early exchanges with Scorpious. I may be your best elimination here but can assure you it's most definitely not going to be end of game, and I think you're maybe best taking some time before getting rid of me to deduce who is your best target for D4 on how they've approached me. I think anyone pushing for an immediate and quick elimination when we have lots of time is suspect if not already cleared.

[MalcolmTucker]

Re how I've played on STD - I called out their push on Rathe being fairly weak and inconsistent in 848 and 862. In 866 I further detailed why I believed this push wasn't particularly genuine and felt like it could be coming from mafia. At this point in the game, if I remember correctly, STD had been kinda quiet and wasn't under too much suspicion. I don't think there's much benefit in mafia continually going after a partner here.

In 871 I pointed out that STD was deflecting away from my line of enquiry instead of just engaging with it naturally, and I stated this again in 875 and 878. Again I think mafia here if they're trying to manufacture an argument just sort of lets this go instead of continually pushing it. Likewise in 879 I pointed out to STD whether they should perhaps evaluate their suspicion for Rathe given nobody else was interested, again I got the sense this wasn't a genuine SR but instead just mafia going through the motions.

In 1257 I voted for STD instead of NM at a point when either of them could have gone out, and when I was going to be offline for the rest of D1. I believe the votes were about split at that point. Again, not what mafia does in this situation.

In 1448 I pointed out that Pooky had suspected STD a bit before elimination and there was a potential link there. In 1752 I pointed out STD's reads were quite dull and could easily come from hesitant mafia.

Again in 1848 I pointed out STD was neglecting to push Rathe despite suspecting them, while STD voted for me instead. In 1852 I then laid out why I thought STD and Andante (now Jackson) might be teammates.

I get this could feasibly be two mafia distancing themselves from each other for late-game, we've not quite been at each other's throats in every second post, but does all of the above read like two teammates? Why was I continually pushing a relatively inactive teammate (hypothetically if you think I'm mafia?) when they were under minimal pressure. Why did I vote for them when the vote was evenly split and they could end up going out? Why did I go back into suspecting them again on D2?

[geraintm]

Don't vote, going to go back and find all my hints at who I was going to check and the results