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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Thomith He/TheyMafia ScumHe/They
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Fuck.
I should have trusted myself.
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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I was going to jump on Elements vanilla result on me being fake, but end of day went too fast and I came back to a locked thread.
Don't know if it would make a difference in the outcome, as I didn't have any good leads on last wolf to vig.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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wp tho, really wanted to belive you were town for this one-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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1. Bianco this was an AMAZING setup. Mechanically one of the best I've played on this site. Thanks for hosting this! (Pre-in for your next modded game pls)
2. Jackson that was impressive as I thought you were town until it was literally too late you played amazing.-
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Dannflor he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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ggwp!
I should have stuck with my gut read on Jackson when he said he couldn't wait for me to pop off as town even though he scumread me
Credit to Jackson though, he's good at weaseling his way out of things and seeming townie
I feel good about catching kyouko before Katsuki shot me
All in all it was a fun game! Thank you bianco for modding <3-
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biancospino he/shecompulsive complex Inventorhe/she
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All Role PMs:
DragonEater70:Spoiler:
ssbm_kyouko:Spoiler:
Celebloki:Spoiler:
Gamma Emerald:Spoiler:
Katsuki:Spoiler:
KittyTacky:Spoiler:
davesaz:Spoiler:
Thomith:Spoiler:
Hu Tao:Spoiler:
Naerys:Spoiler:
Black:Spoiler:
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Oh. well we probably would have eliminated elements then. Yeah we should have waited longerIn post 2902, davesaz wrote: I was going to jump on Elements vanilla result on me being fake, but end of day went too fast and I came back to a locked thread.
Don't know if it would make a difference in the outcome, as I didn't have any good leads on last wolf to vig.-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Wait who gave me the cop invention??-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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i mean, you could've tried to shoot elsewhere and trust we would notice elements claimed a bad result but i kinda see where you're coming fromIn post 2902, davesaz wrote: I was going to jump on Elements vanilla result on me being fake, but end of day went too fast and I came back to a locked thread.
Don't know if it would make a difference in the outcome, as I didn't have any good leads on last wolf to vig.-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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MeIn post 2909, Hu Tao wrote: Wait who gave me the cop invention??-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Oh lol, I was so confused by that-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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I can't believe it was katsuki who shot black and not the other way around-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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what were the infos bianco?
ftr that's a super creative setup but i think it was a fair bit scumsided-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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Yeah I was kinda pissed about thatIn post 2914, Hu Tao wrote: I can't believe it was katsuki who shot black and not the other way around-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Ohhhh got it nowIn post 2912, Gypyx wrote:
blackIn post 2909, Hu Tao wrote: Wait who gave me the cop invention??
i gave her the cop inventor-
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biancospino he/shecompulsive complex Inventorhe/she
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Deaths
D1:Nae, with 1 wolf on wagon.
D2:Dann, with 2 wolves on wagon.
N2:Kat, exploded;Black, bombed.
D3:Ench, with 1 wolf on wagon.
N3:dave, exploded;Ele, bombed.
D4:HT, with 1 wolf on wagon.
Actions
Night 1:
Actor Action Target Result KatACTIVATES INFORMED Fails (jailkept) KTINVENTS a C-InvgadgetBlackBlack receives C-Inv GEFOLLOWS s_Kjailkeeping & role-investigative s_KJAILS & ROLECOPS KatJoAT(aI,aA,aU) DragonINVENTS a (c)VHgadgetKatKat receives (c)VH JVINVENTS a DegadgetHTHT receives De
Night 2:
Actor Action Target Result KatKAMIKAZE BlackKat & Black die DKGUNSMITH Blackhas a gun BlackINVENTS a CgadgetHTHT receives C GypINVENTS a (a)FvgadgetBlackBlack receives (a)FV s_KINVENTS a (c)VHgadgetdavedaves receives (c)VH JVINVENTS a Dr-InvgadgetKatKat receives Dr-Inv
Night 3:
Actor Action Target Result daveKAMIKAZE Eledave & Ele die GypINVENTS a MchgadgetDKDK receives Mch DKMOD COP Gyplazy, announcing, compulsive, personal HTDETECTIVE DKHas never killed EleINVENTS a (c)VBgadgetDKDK receives (c)VB JVINVENTS a NgzgadgetGypGyp receives Ngz
Fast Night requests
N1:— (0/11)
N2:— (0/10)
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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To be fair though, both you and Katsuki were like on the ball at catching thingsIn post 2901, Thomith wrote: I should have trusted myself.-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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Oh so Katsuki kamikazed and killed us both? I didn't realize that lol
Like props to Katsuki for catching Dragon but man, what a turning point in the game killing us both-
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biancospino he/shecompulsive complex Inventorhe/she
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F.A.Q.s
(Question I've received, in no specific order. The question has been paraphrased not to violate the provacy of PMs; the answers are verbatim.)- Does a Gunsmith get a guilty on a Werewolf?
Yes.
- Does a Cop and a Godfather work as expected with Werewolves?
Yes; just so we're clear, "werewolves" and "mafiosi" are exactly equivalent in normals, beside flavour.
- Does a weak action still succeed if it target a wolf?
Yes. Dying (even due to the weak modifier) is not in itself cause for failure.
- Is it possible for this game to be multiball?
No. This is a mini; only complex larges may have 2 mafia/werewolf groups.
- If a Bulletproof Hider hides behind the target of a kill, do they die?
[N.B.: I've got this question twice.]
[A Bulletproof] is immune from nonfactional killing actionstargeting [them].
Kills targeting the player [the BP] hides behind do not target [the BP]; as such, [the BP] will still die if that player is killed.
- Would a RoleGuard reveal the exact role of players targeting their target, or just the specific part of their role that targets?
The entire role (obviously, not the alignment)
It is effectively the amnesiac version of a RoleWatcher.
- Are inventions revealed on flips?
No. Invention are not part of one's role; in particular, they are not flipped upon death.
- Would a psychologist get a guilty on someone who just received a Vig invention?
Yes, assuming that player didn't already attempt to kill in some other manner.
- How would a Gunsmith interact with an (X-Inventor)-Inventor, where X has a gun?
[N.B.: I've got this question, or slight variations thereof, twice.]
[An (X-Inventor)-Inventor] would be seen as having a gun, because they are an Inventor that can give an invention of a gun-bearing power (notably, X-Inventor).
Players that have an X-Inventor invention also have a gun (from the Night they receive the invention till the Night they use it, inclusive). Players that have an X invention similarly have a gun.
- How does an activated Ascetic interact with a Roleblocker?
If [an activated Asctic], for instance, were roleblocked the same night [they] tried to become ascetic, then the golden rule of NAR would generate a paradox; however such paradox would then be resolved by NAR, noting that blocking happens at an earlier stage than miscellanea (note that activated abilities count as miscellaneous actions) -- the net effect would be that [they] would be roleblocked, and fail to activate [their] ascetic shot.
- If an invention isn't used the Night after it has been received, is it kept for later use? Can a player that already has an invention receive more inventions?
- [The receiver of an invention] can hold it. [They] will retain the invention until [they] use it.
- A player may receive any number of inventions.
- [The receiver of an invention] can hold it. [They] will retain the invention until [they] use it.
- Can an (active) Invention be used alongside another personal ability?
[N.B.: I've received this question twice.]
Players may not use an invention alongside another active ability.
- Can a player use multiple (active) inventions the same Night?
No.
- What happens if a combined Vig/Hider and another killing role target the same player?
The BG will eat one kill and die in the process. The other kill will go through.
- What happens if a combined Vig/Hider is jailkept?
The combined Vig Hider action just fails (notice how hiding only protects against kills, not against other actions, including JKs)
- Can a jailkept player receive inventions?
Yes. Jailkeepers roleblock (and protect from kills), not rolestop.
- Would a Detective that act during N3 see kills attempting the same Night?
Yes, [they] would also see kills attempted during N3.
- Would a simple role succeed on a VT holding an invention?
Yes. Having an invention has no effect on a player's rolename; simple just checks if the target's role is vanilla.
- If a combined Vig BG is targeted by a Strengthener, are they equivalent to a Vig?
Almost. The Vig kill will pierce the BG protection, causing the target to die and the BG to survive. The BG part will however not technically fail, so the BG would also die if the target is targeted by another kill.
- Would the game end if [specific thing happens]?
The game will end if and only if one faction's victory is completely unavoidable.
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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It did take a long time to figure out scum wasn't killing. The jail keep is what threw me off-
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biancospino he/shecompulsive complex Inventorhe/she
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LINKS:
mod PT:viewtopic.php?t=92098
wolf lair:viewtopic.php?t=92099
gadget hood:viewtopic.php?t=92101
lichyard:viewtopic.php?t=92102
Gamma Emerald's notes:viewtopic.php?t=92110
All released.Last edited by biancospino on Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:00 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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