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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:18 am

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VOTE: Papa Zito for being the IC.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:41 am

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In post 8, Completly Trustworthy wrote:There is a higher chance the IC will be town than scum, there is no reason to vote for them before they have done anything suspicious.
No higher so than any other person. Also:

>Random votes for a person
>Grumps at someone else for random voting for a person
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Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:05 am

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EBWOP: Not that there's anything wrong with random voting--I'm more concerned about the hypocrisy.

Suspicion level for Completely Trustworthy increased by 5%.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:32 am

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Yet another EBWOP: Apparently I forgot that CT's a newbie. Points retracted. Just be aware that roles are randomly assigned.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:29 am

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Completely Trustworthy: My vote was random.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:36 pm

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No.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:42 am

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To answer your question, Sunny: I've actually been debating how to use those. Here's my decision: The points are what I think of them at the time. It gives some insight on my thought process and also lets me easily find them through iso.

@UglyDuck: This is his first game. I believe he clarified that he meant that people would vote the IC because he would be a better scum player.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:26 pm

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In post 40, Completly Trustworthy wrote:I think that keeping my vote on WhyReadThis is the best decision for now, especially since they confirmed, but have not posted so far. This seems like intentional lurking, especially since they are aware a game is going on. Without any explanation for their absence, I have to suspect them.
I get the reasoning behind this, but not everyone is available 24/7. Something may have cropped up.

And I'm not exactly an expert, but from what I've heard, lurking isn't necessarily a scumtell. It's just only useful for scum.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #8) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:16 am

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UNVOTE: Papa Zito

Avoiding potential shitlynch. iChronicdemonic, please be more careful with your voting, and state the reasoning in your post. Sheeping is considered scummy, and Chronic has not been helpful, at all, so
suspicion levels for iChronicdemonic increased by 20%
.

CT, I can't read minds, but Zito probably is thinking that those who defy math are scummy. (And, well, he does have a point.)
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Post Post #68 (isolation #9) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:22 pm

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Ahem. *unrolls scroll*

Random voting is a normal part of the game during the beginning phases. It is generally used to garner reactions and get the game going.
Random
lynching
is not a normal part of the game, for reasons that I hope are rather obvious to all involved.

VOTE: iChronicDemonic for being the greatest suspect at the time.

iCD is currently at L-2.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #10) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:31 am

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Demonic actually changed his reasoning. First, he said that he was sheeping people (post 63). Then, he said that it was a random lynch (post 66). Since this is his first game, I can kind of understand the vocabulary issues...but not the flipflopping.
However, looking back, it probably wasn't worth a vote. Yet.

UNVOTE: for now.

Spoiler: My thoughts so far:
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Confirmed town
from my perspective.
CT
: Didn't seem to fully understand the RVS but that's acceptable, since he's a newbie. Then spends a good portion of his posts fooling around with his questions. He does have some good contributions, so
slight town lean.

iCD
: Exactly four posts, all of which involved the random Papa Zito vote. Not much to look at here, so
null
, but I'm starting not to like this.
UglyDuck
: Very little activity for me to read, but what I do see gives a fairly good impression. He did vote me but that's understandable. However, the lack of activity means that he only recieves the rank of
slight town lean
.
Lefty
: Showed up out of nowhere, voted for UglyDuck without providing a reason, and stating that him and Sunny are scum without providing a reason. I most certainly don't like this.
Scum lean
.
teacher
: Only three posts, and only one actually contributed anything to the game.
Null.

Sunny
: Exactly three posts related to scumhunting. These posts have a good amount of content, however.
Town lean
.
Reckoner
: Random votes Zito, gets asked about it, later votes iCD due to his content.
Null
, as I don't have much to read here.
Zito
: Does appear to be solving the game, but I can't get much from him...
Slight town lean
.


The lack of posting is making analysis difficult, hence why I'm being indecisive.
Currently, I believe Lefty should be our number one focus, due to the random vote past RVS, no helpful content, and announcing Sunny and UglyDuck to be scum without providing a reason.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #11) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:25 am

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I'd really like to see a post from Lefty now. Why do you suspect UglyDuck/Sunny?
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Post Post #120 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:35 am

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Continuing my questioning...
Lefty--what strikes Sunny's posts as scummy?
--
CT is asking a lot of questions. Not sure if this is because he is scum trying to avoid suspicion or just newbtown, so probably NAI, but just noting this in case it comes up.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:41 am

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Oy.

Demon, a big part of mafia is
how people act
. It's crucial to scumhunting.
Lefty, I think you're misunderstanding. Evidence can be taken as posts, votes...scum have different motivations and information than town, so they may post differently.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:57 am

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VOTE: Lefty for flimsy reasoning regarding the Sunny scumtell.

Suspecting anyone who claims they have evidence is pretty bad.
Especially when you seem to have a different definition of "evidence".
Readlist might come soon. Or maybe not, who knows.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:24 am

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UglyDuck is under review. This means I will iso him and put him under a lot of scrutiny. This is NOT a declaration of intent to hammer, but it may become one.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:30 am

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25 - doesn't understand math.
NAI
.
80 - Apologizes for not posting earlier, votes me for defending other people. I get why this would be scummy, but that's probably not worth a lynch on its own.
Scummy
.
82 - Nice good long post about probability and the IC...in where he also flip-flops opinion, so
NAI
. (And as a side note, please, PLEASE do not keep a scum IC alive just because he's the IC.)
83 - Questions Lefty's scumteam pick.
NAI
.
112 - Tells Lefty that gut is not a good scumhunting tool. While it's not good on its *own*, this is D1 and you'll have to use it a bit. Also doesn't understand what question Lefty was talking about when it was clearly his first post.
Scummy
.
113 - Clarifies the whole 25-82 nonsense. Still think he should have gotten it before post 80, so
NAI
.
114 - Tells off Reckoner for asking where he (UglyDuck) is.
NAI
, but I really don't like this.
115 - Request for people to post reads. No substantial content.
116 - Naming the Charisma list. No substantial content.
117 - Asks Papa Zito why he thinks he's scum.
NAI
.
118 - Asks people if they think there's scum between me and demon. This seems an awful lot like a way to suspect someone without providing a reason!
Scummy
.
141 - Refines the read request. This seems ok.
Towny
.
151 - Questions Lefty. Again,
Towny
.
162 - Corrects VC error. No substantial content.
172 - Responds to CT...in a rather unsettling matter.
NAI
.
173 - EBWOP.

Based on this, I think that UglyDuck is...drumroll please...
SCUM!

Intent to hammer.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:51 am

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Allow me to address suspicions from Ceejay..
--Defending WhyReadThis: The reasoning behind CT's vote was "didn't post yet". Which is kind of a silly reason to vote in my opinion.
--"Avoiding potential shitlynch": I didn't fully think that through.
--Demonic:
Everyone
thought he was suspicious, for good reason. My decision was due to a reevaluation.
--UD: Sometimes I need to look closer.

If you have any more questions I will be happy to answer.
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Post Post #349 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:49 am

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I am not counterclaiming UglyDuck's slot.


I might get a readlist soon.

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