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Post Post #576 (isolation #200) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:48 am

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In post 575, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 572, shortaru wrote:
In post 570, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 568, shortaru wrote:I am just ready for this Day to end one way or another, at this point.

I've done about all I can with pure speculation. We need some real information to work with.
Deadline is approaching.
No, it's not.
In post 551, Malakittens wrote:Deadline will be frozen and extended if it run out before finding a replacement for Emrys.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #201) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:50 am

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In post 577, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 576, shortaru wrote:Do you think Mala will screw a replacement by not extending the deadline?
24-48 hours max depending on when they replace.
Yeah... another 20% tacked onto an already exhausting day.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #202) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:00 am

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Nah.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #203) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:04 am

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Nah.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #204) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:10 am

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implosion red flip will hard clear slimer slot.
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Post Post #587 (isolation #205) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:16 am

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In post 586, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 585, shortaru wrote:implosion red flip will hard clear slimer slot.
Think there is little merit in pushing implosion today if that's what you're trying to say.
I mean, I would hammer it but I'd prefer to lynch Emrys slot today.
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Post Post #589 (isolation #206) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:52 am

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In post 588, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 301, shortaru wrote:I'll take you up on that.

Let's lynch Emrys!
Trying to... but I'm conflicted because I do want to see the replacement's contributions.

It would be interesting to have an L-2 wagon on the slot to motivate them to redeem it.
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Post Post #597 (isolation #207) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:59 am

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In post 596, Ariane wrote:Mew does perhaps have a point about the implication of Em's last post implying he's been reading the thread, hadn't noticed that
Eh.

That, I think, is a stretch.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #208) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:08 am

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In post 590, implosion wrote:
In post 585, shortaru wrote:implosion red flip will hard clear slimer slot.
I like this logic because it means a giga red flip will hard clear me~~~
Nope.

You slipped that slimer was town.

I pointed that out quite blatantly. That you would ignore the context of 585 for a cheap attempt at snark doesn't improve my read of you.
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Post Post #601 (isolation #209) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:09 am

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In post 598, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: Giga :(
I refuse to hammer that, so have fun lynching her without me.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #210) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:13 am

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In post 603, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 601, shortaru wrote:
In post 598, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: Giga :(
I refuse to hammer that, so have fun lynching her without me.
She pocketed you good short. I don't blame you <3
Wrong.

Implosion cleared her slot. Want me to Lynch her? Convince me he's town with a green flip or inno.
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Post Post #608 (isolation #211) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:17 am

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When she flips green, you lynch implosion D2.
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Post Post #610 (isolation #212) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:20 am

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I wouldn't count on it.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #213) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:23 am

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VOTE: implosion
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Post Post #615 (isolation #214) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:33 pm

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In post 614, Broxul wrote:Also @shortaru, can you explain why you think I'm a good lynch for today. You kind of defended me from Cheeky's push in 318 and 319 and then voted for me in 329. So again, I'm not sure where your mindset switched.
10 posts happened.

Probably something within those posts.

Give them a read.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #215) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:16 pm

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In post 617, implosion wrote:the contrapositive statement of this is that if slimer's slot flips red, it hard clears me.
No it doesn't, because slimer isn't the one that slipped a townie.

And don't act like experienced players are incapable of making mistakes.
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Post Post #621 (isolation #216) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:29 pm

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In post 619, implosion wrote:And the slip argument only applies if you think I'm scum for other reasons;
Right. It's not like I posted a massive wall about you, our anything.

Talk about misrep.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #217) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:43 pm

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In post 614, Broxul wrote:Also @shortaru, can you explain why you think I'm a good lynch for today. You kind of defended me from Cheeky's push in 318 and 319 and then voted for me in 329. So again, I'm not sure where your mindset switched.
Ignore my previous reply. I was away from home and couldn't be bothered to go digging since you didn't use post links.

Reread . There's no mystery.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #218) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:35 am

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In post 630, Broxul wrote:Half that post your defending me and the "fair vote" comes in because I defended slimer, a slot you now think is cleared town. So, I disagree, I think there is still some mystery there.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #219) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:51 am

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Welcome, Formerfish.

You're in a widely scumread slot. No pressure!
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Post Post #647 (isolation #220) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:20 am

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In post 645, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah I don't think you're scum Implosion. I agree with your PoE.
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Post Post #649 (isolation #221) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 am

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In post 648, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 647, shortaru wrote:
In post 645, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah I don't think you're scum Implosion. I agree with your PoE.
Then vote scum?
Ok don't object this time.

VOTE: Giga
I wouldn't, if you voted scum. :giggle:
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Post Post #651 (isolation #222) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:58 am

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That's... actually not terrible.
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Post Post #652 (isolation #223) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:00 am

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I need to look at VC's and see what else was happening, though.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #224) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:02 am

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In post 394, Malakittens wrote:
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announcementsEmyrs Baneheart was prodded yesterday at 22:53. (expired on 2018-10-29 06:53:00) til they are replaced.


Official Vote CountgigabyteTroubadour: [2] implosion, Broxul
Broxul: [3] Mewtaph, shortaru, stan1ey
stan1ey: [1] CheekyTeeky

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(3): Emyrs Baneheart, gigabyteTroubadour, ariane

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline
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Eh.

3 players off both wagons (excluding her), 3 players on the Broxul wagon.

No meat on the bone there, Cheeky.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #225) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:11 am

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In post 655, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 653, shortaru wrote:Eh.

3 players off both wagons (excluding her), 3 players on the Broxul wagon.

No meat on the bone there, Cheeky.
Elaborate please.
I think it would be optimal to wait for Giggles to respond to 650, first.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #226) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:12 am

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And there goes Mr. "I'm just gonna alibi everybody" implosion, again.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #227) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:13 am

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In post 654, Malakittens wrote:[mine]

Btw I finally got the picture of the prettiest rig ever? Are you ready? (Hint it’s not my depts)
Yes, please!
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Post Post #662 (isolation #228) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:15 am

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In post 659, implosion wrote:But I don't think it's really useful to avoid elaborating on simple logical inferences like that.
What's simple logical inference for you may not occur so naturally to someone who is predisposed to their own motives that has to reach for an excuse.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #229) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 663, implosion wrote:Yeah, but giga is a competent player.

This is mostly an empirical observation as well, that trying to scumhunt with matter-of-fact distinguishing features like that is not useful.
Point remains that while her giving that explanation would have cleared her, failing to would have earned my vote.

People fuck up. It's part of the human condition.
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Post Post #665 (isolation #230) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:31 am

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In post 664, shortaru wrote:
In post 663, implosion wrote:Yeah, but giga is a competent player.

This is mostly an empirical observation as well, that trying to scumhunt with matter-of-fact distinguishing features like that is not useful.
Point remains that while her giving that explanation would not have cleared her, failing to would have earned my vote.

People fuck up. It's part of the human condition.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #231) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:31 am

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(kinda made my point, there)
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Post Post #669 (isolation #232) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:35 am

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It's quite worth strengthening my scum read on your slot.

There is zero town motivation in your penchant for playing everyone else's game for them.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #233) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 427, shortaru wrote:There are no circumstances in existence that will make me vote slimer slot today outside of a full on confession.

Not vibing a Mew lynch, either.

Broxul & Emrys have the shortaru seal of splendidness.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #234) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:39 am

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In post 671, implosion wrote:Yes there is; it keeps discussion flowing, rather than stifling it while waiting for another slot to get here.
Wrong. Other shit could have been discussed aside from Giga's mindset.

That was a poor response.
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Post Post #673 (isolation #235) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:39 am

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In post 668, implosion wrote:What's your opinion on Broxul's recent posting?
To be clear, my mind hasn't changed on Broxul since that post where I flat out said I was done reading his posts.
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Post Post #678 (isolation #236) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:47 am

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You answering for her, is.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #237) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:10 am

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^ fair point, but not outside the scope of experienced scum.

That said, it's worth consideration.
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Post Post #691 (isolation #238) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:41 pm

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In post 689, Formerfish wrote:
In post 678, shortaru wrote:You answering for her, is.
Are you saying here that you think that imp answering a question intended for someone else is AI? What do you think it says?
Any town motivation that might be inferred by the asking of a question is nullified by the answering of it.

As answering the question one is asking gains nothing that is alignment-indicative from the person being asked, doing so only serves to preempt another player from asking that question or the person being asked the question from answering.

Or, of course, the one answering the same question they're asking may simply want to appear to be productive without actually BEING productive.

Happening once in a blue moon doesn't say much, but implosion has done this twice in this game (that I'm aware of), and the last time he did it was with full knowledge that I find doing so objectionable.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #239) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:03 pm

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In post 692, Formerfish wrote:
In post 691, shortaru wrote:and the last time he did it was with full knowledge that I find doing so objectionable.
Do you see a difference between someone answering a question meant for someone else and someone speaking to another players mindstate when posting?
No, because the person answering a question meant for someone else IS speaking to that person's mindset.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #240) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:04 pm

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In post 696, stan1ey wrote:We only have 16 hours left and not a single person has more than 2 votes
Good eye. I'm willing to hammer a wagon to prevent no lynch.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #241) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:13 pm

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In post 695, shortaru wrote:
In post 692, Formerfish wrote:
In post 691, shortaru wrote:and the last time he did it was with full knowledge that I find doing so objectionable.
Do you see a difference between someone answering a question meant for someone else and someone speaking to another players mindstate when posting?
No, because the person answering a question meant for someone else IS speaking to that person's mindset.
I should append this...

A person answering somebody else's question is scummier than someone simply speaking to someone else's mindset because the person answering someone else's question is not only speaking to someone else's mindset, but ALSO doing those things I listed above.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #242) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:14 pm

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If you two consolidate on a wagon, I'll jump on as well.

Sound fair?
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Post Post #703 (isolation #243) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:17 pm

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I think we should consolidate on Formerfish.
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Post Post #704 (isolation #244) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:21 pm

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Formerfish has done absolutely nothing to town up an already scummy slot, and their red flip will put my mind at ease IRT implosion so I won't need an investigative clear on him to believe he's town because there is no advantage to bringing attention to his partner this late in the day as scum.
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Post Post #708 (isolation #245) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:32 pm

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While I appreciate your cooperative attitude, Stan, I have to admit that it's confusing me how you've voted for two players now whose wagons I've advocated.

True, you say you're sheeping implosion... but the fact of the matter is that you voted former minutes after I asked for consolidation onto him.

I would expect a townie that is scumreading me to be lobbying against lynching whomever I was pushing, especially when the person I'm pushing only had one vote on them when you were just complaining that no wagons had more than two votes.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #246) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:35 pm

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VOTE: Formerfish

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Post Post #711 (isolation #247) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:37 pm

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Fair enough.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #248) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:41 pm

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If Former flips red, I'm going to be very interested in Mew tomorrow.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #249) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:46 pm

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In post 519, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Emyrs
Fine with setting this up preparing for an EoD scramble because I am not sure if I can make it to the end of the deadline. Lots of people are using PoE on D1 which is a sign that everyone is pretty villagery. Emyrs is LHF, but I am not opposed to it and I don't want to have my vote restricting other players that could actively vote shift near the deadline.
So... I think you should revisit this idea, Mew.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #250) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:48 pm

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In post 714, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 712, shortaru wrote:If Former flips red, I'm going to be very interested in Mew tomorrow.
Good for you, watch Former hard town it up and you'll be eating your words. If that doesn't happen I'm not losing anything not sheeping the loudest player in the game by 100 posts.
Why, did you tell him to get his ass out of the scum PT and into the game thread?
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Post Post #720 (isolation #251) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:49 pm

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In post 716, Mewtaph wrote:I don't see why you're hard cockblocking giga either, so I guess Cheeky was right on you being pocketed hard there.
Of the two new replacements, she's the only one that has even tried to advance the game. Former has been almost as dead as his predecessor, so I want to make it official.

That's why.
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Post Post #722 (isolation #252) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:50 pm

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In post 719, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 717, shortaru wrote:
In post 714, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 712, shortaru wrote:If Former flips red, I'm going to be very interested in Mew tomorrow.
Good for you, watch Former hard town it up and you'll be eating your words. If that doesn't happen I'm not losing anything not sheeping the loudest player in the game by 100 posts.
Why, did you tell him to get his ass out of the scum PT and into the game thread?
Oh lord, you are conf biased. What are you going to say if FF flips town? Probably can't put your pride town in that case and will just start chasing implosion tomorrow.
Who knows? A lot can happen overnight.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #253) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:54 pm

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In post 718, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 715, shortaru wrote:
In post 519, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Emyrs
Fine with setting this up preparing for an EoD scramble because I am not sure if I can make it to the end of the deadline. Lots of people are using PoE on D1 which is a sign that everyone is pretty villagery. Emyrs is LHF, but I am not opposed to it and I don't want to have my vote restricting other players that could actively vote shift near the deadline.
So... I think you should revisit this idea, Mew.
I got less information while sitting on that vote while exploring literally anything beyond it this entire game. Shit vote and I learned while talking with you while on that wagon that you are conf biasing hard on implosion, irregardless of his alignment you don't give him the light of day.
Right. I'm so confbiasing on implosion that I'm pushing the wagon HE STARTED with the interest of clearing him instead of screeching at the top of my lungs how former must be town since implosion is voting him.

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Post Post #727 (isolation #254) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:58 pm

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In post 725, Formerfish wrote:It's funny to me that as soon as you guys get a player in the slot here you go to lynch it.
That's inaccurate. I warned you that your slot was scumread when you joined the game. Maybe you should have listened instead of being a smartass.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #255) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:18 am

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In post 726, Mewtaph wrote:I'm not misrepping shit
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In post 306, Mewtaph wrote:Also, shortaru, your vote doesn't reflect your content. Most of your recent content is focused on why implosion. Noone ISO's somebody and goes through with it through its entirety because it takes ages to do unless they have a strong hunch that they're going to find something.
Misrep #1, countered in
In post 309, shortaru wrote:
In post 306, Mewtaph wrote:Also, shortaru, your vote doesn't reflect your content. Most of your recent content is focused on why implosion.
Yes, it does.

I've said several times that I'm not interested in lynching Cheeky or implosion TODAY.

Doesn't mean I consider either one "forever Town". My posts reflect this.

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In post 406, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 398, shortaru wrote:
In post 397, Mewtaph wrote:@shortaru, What do you think about Broxul's last two posts?
I pretty much quit paying attention to him because I'm free up with his bullshit excuses to scumread me.

1) I'm not the only one that got paranoid about the "not being lynched today" list that was coming to consensus. There have been a number of pushes on those in that list but mine on Stan was the only one that Broxul criticized.

2) He claimed me missing context was a reason to scumread me... which is so much bullshit that even the person I misread (who would love to lynch me for reasons of his own) called bullshit on it.
2b) Broxul didn't seem to mind you taking Ariane's post or of context. Apparently it's only scummy when a guy he's been leaning town on most of the game except for when he got paranoid on a townread does it.

So yeah... I'm kinda done reading Broxul posts.
If you think that Broxul is being paranoid, that is a town associated reaction. I like his last two posts. His first initial reaction was poor but I can see that coming from town as well.
Do you feel that Broxul using words that suggests that he isn't town is enough for your vote, or is there something else to it that you're hanging your hat onto?
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In post 398, shortaru wrote:it's only scummy when a guy he's been leaning town on most of the game
except for when he got paranoid
on a townread does it.
This bit in particular suggests you are considering that Broxul could be paranoid.
In post 414, Mewtaph wrote:Yes, but the gist I am getting from post is that you are frustrated with Broxul's slot, and in reference to the reasons why - you refer to:
"I'm not the only one that got paranoid (meaning that someone else is paranoid)"
"Broxul didn't seem to mind you taking Ariane's post out of context. Apparently it's only scummy when [Broxul gets paranoid on a town lean, which is me]".
You are suggesting through your posts, unconsciously or not, that you are thinking in some way or another that Broxul is, or could be paranoid.

"He claimed me missing context was a reason to scumread me... which is so much bullshit"
"I'm kinda done reading Broxul posts".
Reads as frustration.

So if I read this post fully from town intent, I read: "Broxul has shown signals of paranoia and I'm frustrated because of it"
Correct me if I am wrong.
As corrected by , , &

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In post 718, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 715, shortaru wrote:
In post 519, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Emyrs
Fine with setting this up preparing for an EoD scramble because I am not sure if I can make it to the end of the deadline. Lots of people are using PoE on D1 which is a sign that everyone is pretty villagery. Emyrs is LHF, but I am not opposed to it and I don't want to have my vote restricting other players that could actively vote shift near the deadline.
So... I think you should revisit this idea, Mew.
I got less information while sitting on that vote while exploring literally anything beyond it this entire game. Shit vote and I learned while talking with you while on that wagon that you are conf biasing hard on implosion, irregardless of his alignment you don't give him the light of day.
, supported by the last paragraph of .
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Post Post #734 (isolation #256) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:32 am

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In post 732, Mewtaph wrote:Might want to follow your own advice. :good:
Might want to worry about your own game. :yawn:
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Post Post #735 (isolation #257) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:40 am

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In post 728, stan1ey wrote:
In post 725, Formerfish wrote:Give me a little time and you'll see.
I dont think you understand how close to deadline we are

Also Mew, how can you predict someone will seem more towny as time goes on?
Kinda why I am leaning towards a Former/Mew team.

He didn't mind voting Former when he knew it wouldn't get Former lynched, but now that the rubber is meeting the road all we're getting there is static.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #258) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:54 am

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In post 736, Formerfish wrote:Or maybe I was able to become active and have the ability to change this slots equity through play.

If I'm guilty to you guys no matter what then do you. I would suggest letting the experienced player find their wings in this game. I'm much better with personal interaction.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #259) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:57 am

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In post 742, Formerfish wrote:I'm a better player than that and if I'm scum it'll come out somehow.
Which is it?

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Post Post #746 (isolation #260) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:58 am

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In post 743, Formerfish wrote:
In post 741, shortaru wrote:
In post 736, Formerfish wrote:Or maybe I was able to become active and have the ability to change this slots equity through play.

If I'm guilty to you guys no matter what then do you. I would suggest letting the experienced player find their wings in this game. I'm much better with personal interaction.
Slinking through the day and "hard towning it up" when the deadline hits is scum 101.
I replaced in 24 hours ago. I haven't been slinking through shit. Get your head out of your ass.
Your slot has, and you've done absolutely nothing to improve it by being a smartass when I gave you a heads up about being scumread.
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Post Post #751 (isolation #261) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:03 am

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Who else is being discussed?

Ariane?
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Post Post #753 (isolation #262) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:05 am

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VOTE: Ariane

No problem.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #263) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:10 am

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In post 755, Formerfish wrote:Short. I feel like I need to sort you first to see how to proceed with you. I have a tendency to be a lightning rod for people who like to start large wall fight and it turns bad for both parties.

I don't want to do that here. I think that allowing the thread to devolve into chaos would be negative for everyone involved.

So let's not do that.
Sort away townaru, what do you want to know? :]
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Post Post #761 (isolation #264) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:11 am

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In post 757, Ariane wrote:Also that was a quick switch mate
I'm a fickle taru.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #265) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:13 am

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In post 762, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 747, Mewtaph wrote:If you lynch FF today and he flips red, then you can PL me tomorrow. Quote this for convenience.
This is only for today (D1 phase) btw, so no twisting this @shortaru.
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I'm not the one with a track record of misrepping.
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Post Post #767 (isolation #266) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:15 am

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In post 763, Formerfish wrote:
In post 758, shortaru wrote:
In post 755, Formerfish wrote:Short. I feel like I need to sort you first to see how to proceed with you. I have a tendency to be a lightning rod for people who like to start large wall fight and it turns bad for both parties.

I don't want to do that here. I think that allowing the thread to devolve into chaos would be negative for everyone involved.

So let's not do that.
Sort away townaru, what do you want to know? :]
Can I get an up to date reads list off you?
Just reads or do you want reasons?

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Post Post #775 (isolation #267) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:33 am

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Broxul - not a top town read, but not actively interested in lynching him because I don't want my dislike of his play to affect the game
ariane - very null, which makes me her very lynchworthy (especially on D1)
stan1ey - hard town, committed on this read (finally)
Mewtaph - scum; numerous misreps of my play (will have to review his interactions with Broxul to see if he did the same there)
Formerfish - conditional town; I've seen a couple posts I really liked recently. Continued posts of that caliber will firm up that read
gigabyteTroubadour (SE) - *sob* scum... I really, REALLY wanted Giggles to be town, but the way she's been lurking out the past couple days (and yes, she's been online but not posting) gives me sads. Bigly.
CheekyTeeky (SE) - town
implosion - null, but not in an active interest in lynching kind of way because at least there is plenty of content from him TO parse.

PEdit: Great, a ton of posts to catch up on, lol.
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Post Post #779 (isolation #268) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:38 am

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VOTE: gigabytetroubadour

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Post Post #783 (isolation #269) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:44 am

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In post 780, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 775, shortaru wrote:Mewtaph - scum; numerous misreps of my play (will have to review his interactions with Broxul to see if he did the same there)
Mew is town.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #270) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:45 am

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In post 782, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 775, shortaru wrote:Formerfish - conditional town; I've seen a couple posts I really liked recently.
Can you point these out?
No.

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Post Post #788 (isolation #271) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:55 am

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In post 787, Ariane wrote:short I mean is 'a couple of posts' enough to lean him as town? Like two pages ago you were definitely reading him as scum, so I'd those 'couple' of posts must have been pretty damn strong

Spoiler: shortaru's post 746
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In post 743, Formerfish wrote:
In post 741, shortaru wrote:
In post 736, Formerfish wrote:Or maybe I was able to become active and have the ability to change this slots equity through play.

If I'm guilty to you guys no matter what then do you. I would suggest letting the experienced player find their wings in this game. I'm much better with personal interaction.
Slinking through the day and "hard towning it up" when the deadline hits is scum 101.
I replaced in 24 hours ago. I haven't been slinking through shit. Get your head out of your ass.
Your slot has, and you've done absolutely nothing to improve it by being a smartass when I gave you a heads up about being scumread.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #272) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:56 am

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In post 788, shortaru wrote:
In post 787, Ariane wrote:short I mean is 'a couple of posts' enough to lean him as town? Like two pages ago you were definitely reading him as scum, so I'd those 'couple' of posts must have been pretty damn strong

Spoiler: shortaru's post 746
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In post 743, Formerfish wrote:
In post 741, shortaru wrote:
In post 736, Formerfish wrote:Or maybe I was able to become active and have the ability to change this slots equity through play.

If I'm guilty to you guys no matter what then do you. I would suggest letting the experienced player find their wings in this game. I'm much better with personal interaction.
Slinking through the day and "hard towning it up" when the deadline hits is scum 101.
I replaced in 24 hours ago. I haven't been slinking through shit. Get your head out of your ass.
Your slot has, and you've done absolutely nothing to improve it by being a smartass when I gave you a heads up about being scumread.
The posts that changed my mind happened after that post.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #273) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:59 am

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We can argue over townreads tomorrow.

Today, we need to lynch scum.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #274) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:06 am

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In post 792, Ariane wrote:We're not quibbling over townreads here, we're talking about scumreads
You're talking about a scumread.

I'm talking about a townread.

Former isn't being lynched today. If he's scum, who is his partner? (Hint: it's Giggles)
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Post Post #796 (isolation #275) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:07 am

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Gigs.
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Post Post #797 (isolation #276) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:10 am

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In post 795, CheekyTeeky wrote:Short, your ego makes you appear scummy so it's hard to be confident in my read on you.
I don't care about being hard/universally townread.

A little shade is good for the soul. Might even keep me alive to be mislynched.
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Post Post #799 (isolation #277) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:12 am

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By all means, ask Former that tomorrow.

Today, we need to hang Giggles.
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Post Post #805 (isolation #278) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:22 am

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Go look at Giga's last online time.

Then riddle me this... why would she not post unless it's because, "shortaru is her knight in shining armor and will be tied to her if she flips scum later"?
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Post Post #807 (isolation #279) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:36 am

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UnOfficial Vote Countstan1ey: [1] gigabyteTroubadour
GigabyteTroubadour: [4] CheekyTeeky, Broxul, Mewtaph, shortaru
Formerfish: [3] implosion, stan1ey, Ariane

Not Voting
(1): Formerfish,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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WE HAVE L-1.
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Post Post #816 (isolation #280) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:22 am

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In post 730, Formerfish wrote:Also, you have almost 300 posts in a 700 post game. You need to calm yourself a little and allow the rest of the group to play.
Thing is, there are replacements that have more posts than players who have been here since page 1.

If you think I'm trying to control the direction of the game in order to forward a scum agenda, by all means push me on that. However, don't expect me to give much credence to arguments that I simply post too much when I'm in here slogging away just to keep the game moving.
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Post Post #819 (isolation #281) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:26 am

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In post 817, Formerfish wrote:I'm not saying either. I'm saying that your plugging along could very well be what is making this game as unaccessible as it is right now.

If you have important stuff to say, by all means say it. But when you have 300 posts alone isoing you is going to be a nightmare to do, which is why I'm trying to engage you directly.
Considering a third of the pages in this game are mine, it should be pretty easy to find my scum intent if there is any.

PEdit: will do, but that will have to come later. I'm getting ready to start my day.
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Post Post #820 (isolation #282) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:37 am

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Stanley




{current, aside from a fit of paranoia due to the sheer number of early townreads}

Mew: Aggression is NAI. Power scum can aggressively push mislynches. Mew's penchant for twisting and/or "misunderstanding" leads me to believe that he is simply probing for weaknesses instead of determining alignment.

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Post Post #823 (isolation #283) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:04 am

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^ kinda making my point
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Post Post #828 (isolation #284) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:13 am

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As I said, if I have scum intent it should be easy enough to locate in my 11 pages of content.
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Post Post #832 (isolation #285) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:23 am

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In post 829, Mewtaph wrote:Your ego made you much scummier. If you push your ego you become more scummier. I wouldn't get too comfortable buddy.
This is a great example of a post with scum intent.

Intimidation tactics are the realm of Mafia.

Even though Stan has/had a huge lynch boner for me, you never saw this kind of posting from him... because he's town.
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Post Post #834 (isolation #286) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:26 am

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In post 833, Mewtaph wrote:irregardless of your alignment
'nuff said
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Post Post #836 (isolation #287) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:28 am

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So, where is all this scum intent, Mew?

Show us.

I gave details on how you're scum.
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Post Post #838 (isolation #288) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:29 am

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In post 835, Mewtaph wrote:Also, there's no way someone with an ego as big as yours backs down unless I completely crush it and/or show scum intent within your posts. If you continue to throw shade at me, then you will get shade from me. If you decide to vote me, I'm going to vote you. Period.
This is not town posting.

Mew isn't even trying to claim that I'm actually scum. He's just trying to intimidate me.

It's not working, btw.
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Post Post #847 (isolation #289) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:03 am

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So Mew... do you plan on sharing your reads at all, today?
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Post Post #849 (isolation #290) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:10 am

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In post 840, Mewtaph wrote:I literally just stated I can show scum intent in your posts.

That is the equivalent of me being able to show how you can be scum.
You're approaching me like this is simply a "who can get the other player lynched" competition.

I don't see any town intent there, at all.
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Post Post #850 (isolation #291) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:17 am

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In post 835, Mewtaph wrote:If you continue to throw shade at me, then you will get shade from me. If you decide to vote me, I'm going to vote you. Period.
In post 829, Mewtaph wrote:Your ego made you much scummier. If you push your ego you become more scummier. I wouldn't get too comfortable buddy.
Like, how does town ever say this? :lol:

This is blatant scum taunting.

I don't even care if I die before Mew. He's destroying his win con.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #292) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:45 am

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In post 851, Mewtaph wrote:Meet you tomorrow.
Why, who are you killing tonight? :o
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Post Post #854 (isolation #293) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:47 am

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Decided to stop bussing?

Can't blame ya. You were kinda playing against your win con.
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Post Post #858 (isolation #294) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:54 am

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Lol.

Rage harder.
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Post Post #860 (isolation #295) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:58 am

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Mew, if you're town you need to get this little tantrum out of your system today so you can actually focus on the game tomorrow.

Don't carry this hostility over to the next game day. It won't do anything to help.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #296) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:04 am

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In post 864, stan1ey wrote:So we've got intent on gig but she hasn't posted in over 3 days so i doubt we'll get a claim before the day ends since its only a few hours away
She's L-2 now that Mew moved his vote.
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Post Post #884 (isolation #297) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:49 am

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In post 881, Formerfish wrote:VOTE: Gig

If you guys are mad about my activity right now where is the rightoeus indignation towards gig right now?
You mean the person at L-1?

I wonder.
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Post Post #887 (isolation #298) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:08 pm

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In post 885, Formerfish wrote:
In post 884, shortaru wrote:
In post 881, Formerfish wrote:VOTE: Gig

If you guys are mad about my activity right now where is the rightoeus indignation towards gig right now?
You mean the person at L-1?

I wonder.
But are the people who are on me about my activity on the gig lynch? That's what I'm talking about, I know gig is at l-1, after my vote.
She was before as well, until Mew voted me. Anywho...

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I apologise for my overactive posting. I'm used to things going much quicker, and still asking to the pace and overall environment of the forum format of Mafia.

From this point on, I'm going to dial back my activity. If you could give me a smidge of time to adjust, I hope to be able to make this game more enjoyable, regardless of your alignment.

PEdit: I'm missing a whole lot of what's going on, tbh. Just trying to keep tabs on the game while I'm out.
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Post Post #891 (isolation #299) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:30 pm

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In post 886, Formerfish wrote: This seems to be a significant miss on your part. Fix it.
To be honest, I'm just too fatigued too dig into responding to this, this game day. I'll address it tomorrow (please remind me if I forget, I'm not trying to duck your question).
In post 888, Formerfish wrote:You said you played multiple places right?
I used to play mafia in person before moving to Vegas. Dabbled around with the app after I got her, but meh. Might be more fun with regulars/friends, but not something I care to play with an endless barrage of strangers.

When this game got underway, it was the only game on my plate, so I kept looking everything with a stick you try and get activity rolling because I'm used to days that are measured in
minutes
and this is a veritable culture shock.

Now, I've gotten myself, eh, otherwise engaged, to try and keep me occupied without burning out one particular game. I just don't want to overextend myself to the point where I can't give my games the focus and attention they deserve.
In post 889, implosion wrote:Wavering a bit on who I favor between her and ff.
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Post Post #911 (isolation #300) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:51 pm

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Ariane,

Before I post again, I'm going to give you one chance to tell me why you didn't stay at home last night.

This will be my last post until Ariane responds.
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Post Post #930 (isolation #301) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:44 am

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In post 924, Ariane wrote:Cos he's either mistaken or lying, and I don't get how he could be mistaken

VOTE: shortaru

PEdit: Might as well wait, too
I was lying.

It was a gambit because you're my strongest scum read.
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Post Post #932 (isolation #302) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:51 am

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In post 931, stan1ey wrote:well we both claimed doctor so lynch me and see I'm town then you can lynch Ariane
VOTE: stan1ey
Don't be silly.

VOTE: Ariane
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Post Post #944 (isolation #303) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:58 am

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Lol.

I'd say today worked out splendidly regardless of the flip.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #304) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:05 am

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stan1ey, if you're town good job bro.

If you're scum, you might as well concede because there is no scenario where you aren't lynched tomorrow if Ariane flips Doctor.
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Post Post #948 (isolation #305) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:56 am

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If Ariane flips non-doctor town, I want to Lynch FF tomorrow.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #306) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:13 am

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In post 949, Formerfish wrote:
In post 948, shortaru wrote:If Ariane flips non-doctor town, I want to Lynch FF tomorrow.
Huh?
Just considering the possibility of a fake-claiming townie flip.
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Post Post #955 (isolation #307) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:17 am

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FF, I'm not saying you're lock scum on an Ariane non-doctor green flip, but when I considered that possibility and reread your posts, I got a bit of a "cat that ate the canary" scum vibe.
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Post Post #956 (isolation #308) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:22 am

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Also, I'm hoping that the investigative targets you if the game isn't over and Stan isn't outed as a fake claim so it's clarified without your flip.
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Post Post #969 (isolation #309) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:00 am

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I'd appreciate any input you have on my play, implosion, and Cheeky.
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Post Post #971 (isolation #310) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:13 am

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In post 970, Ariane wrote:The other part of me claiming I'd forgot to submit an action was trying to get short to admit he'd gambitted, s.t. I wouldn't need to claim
Yeah, I waiting to see how things would unfold after your response. That's why I didn't admit the gambit until after you were committed.

Glad I did.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #311) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:37 am

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I was interested in your opinion as well, but fine. Be that way. :cry:
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Post Post #977 (isolation #312) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:53 am

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Yey.
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Post Post #979 (isolation #313) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:44 pm

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In post 856, Mewtaph wrote:If shortaru keeps proving he is working towards his win condition of keeping his ego intact, then I will crush it and his 3 "misrep" list apart. #alreadyprepared #tossmetheBS
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Post Post #982 (isolation #314) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:03 pm

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In post 981, Mewtaph wrote:Hi, short.
Sorry I upset you with my ego.
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Post Post #985 (isolation #315) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:23 pm

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In post 984, theslimer3 wrote:I really really wanted to butt heads with you
Why?
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Post Post #988 (isolation #316) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:28 pm

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In post 987, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 985, shortaru wrote:
In post 984, theslimer3 wrote:I really really wanted to butt heads with you
Why?
With you taking center stage most of the game, calling out your willingness to jump to conclusions and rash nature/outspokenness would just be kinda fun to work you up. Especially if it caused you to vote me. I'm kinda cruel like that sometimes
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Post Post #994 (isolation #317) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:44 pm

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In post 980, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 974, shortaru wrote:I was interested in your opinion as well, but fine. Be that way. :cry:
I'll review your play and send you a PM with my thoughts when I've got time <3.
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Post Post #998 (isolation #318) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:44 pm

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In post 996, implosion wrote:Overall I think you sort of displayed a tendency to get caught up on little things a lot (with me, with stan, etc) although I imagine your actual opinions are mostly more subtle than you're letting on, which is fine; but if not, then basically just don't get caught up over things that don't really have scum motivation behind them.
I like to nitpick at the little things to see where the conversation goes.

90% of the time, my apparent suspicion/accusations are fabricated because I want to see where everybody stands before tipping my hand.
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Post Post #999 (isolation #319) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:45 pm

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In post 996, implosion wrote:But I mean overall you're active and engage with people and those are basically the only things important other than not being an asshole (which I think you're probably fine on). Some people will have issue with how much you post but you're not really fluffposting so.
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #320) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:47 pm

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Well, f2f was my jam for quite some time. :]
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #321) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:50 pm

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Thanks for the input!
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #322) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:50 pm

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(I do hope Mala gets the time to release PTs soon)
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #323) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:53 pm

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I'm kinda sorry that Stan & I stole your thunder, implosion.
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