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Post #597 (isolation #207) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:59 am
Postby shortaru »
In post 596, Ariane wrote:Mew does perhaps have a point about the implication of Em's last post implying he's been reading the thread, hadn't noticed that
Eh.
That, I think, is a stretch.
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Post #615 (isolation #214) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:33 pm
Postby shortaru »
In post 614, Broxul wrote:Also @shortaru, can you explain why you think I'm a good lynch for today. You kind of defended me from Cheeky's push in 318 and 319 and then voted for me in 329. So again, I'm not sure where your mindset switched.
10 posts happened.
Probably something within those posts.
Give them a read.
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Post #625 (isolation #217) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:43 pm
Postby shortaru »
In post 614, Broxul wrote:Also @shortaru, can you explain why you think I'm a good lynch for today. You kind of defended me from Cheeky's push in 318 and 319 and then voted for me in 329. So again, I'm not sure where your mindset switched.
Ignore my previous reply. I was away from home and couldn't be bothered to go digging since you didn't use post links.
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Post #631 (isolation #218) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:35 am
Postby shortaru »
In post 630, Broxul wrote:Half that post your defending me and the "fair vote" comes in because I defended slimer, a slot you now think is cleared town. So, I disagree, I think there is still some mystery there.
Then vote me. IDC.
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Are you saying here that you think that imp answering a question intended for someone else is AI? What do you think it says?
Any town motivation that might be inferred by the asking of a question is nullified by the answering of it.
As answering the question one is asking gains nothing that is alignment-indicative from the person being asked, doing so only serves to preempt another player from asking that question or the person being asked the question from answering.
Or, of course, the one answering the same question they're asking may simply want to appear to be productive without actually BEING productive.
Happening once in a blue moon doesn't say much, but implosion has done this twice in this game (that I'm aware of), and the last time he did it was with full knowledge that I find doing so objectionable.
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In post 691, shortaru wrote:and the last time he did it was with full knowledge that I find doing so objectionable.
Do you see a difference between someone answering a question meant for someone else and someone speaking to another players mindstate when posting?
No, because the person answering a question meant for someone else IS speaking to that person's mindset.
I should append this...
A person answering somebody else's question is scummier than someone simply speaking to someone else's mindset because the person answering someone else's question is not only speaking to someone else's mindset, but ALSO doing those things I listed above.
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Post #704 (isolation #244) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:21 pm
Postby shortaru »
Formerfish has done absolutely nothing to town up an already scummy slot, and their red flip will put my mind at ease IRT implosion so I won't need an investigative clear on him to believe he's town because there is no advantage to bringing attention to his partner this late in the day as scum.
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Post #708 (isolation #245) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:32 pm
Postby shortaru »
While I appreciate your cooperative attitude, Stan, I have to admit that it's confusing me how you've voted for two players now whose wagons I've advocated.
True, you say you're sheeping implosion... but the fact of the matter is that you voted former minutes after I asked for consolidation onto him.
I would expect a townie that is scumreading me to be lobbying against lynching whomever I was pushing, especially when the person I'm pushing only had one vote on them when you were just complaining that no wagons had more than two votes.
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Post #715 (isolation #249) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:46 pm
Postby shortaru »
In post 519, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Emyrs
Fine with setting this up preparing for an EoD scramble because I am not sure if I can make it to the end of the deadline. Lots of people are using PoE on D1 which is a sign that everyone is pretty villagery. Emyrs is LHF, but I am not opposed to it and I don't want to have my vote restricting other players that could actively vote shift near the deadline.
So... I think you should revisit this idea, Mew.
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In post 712, shortaru wrote:If Former flips red, I'm going to be very interested in Mew tomorrow.
Good for you, watch Former hard town it up and you'll be eating your words. If that doesn't happen I'm not losing anything not sheeping the loudest player in the game by 100 posts.
Why, did you tell him to get his ass out of the scum PT and into the game thread?
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Post #720 (isolation #251) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:49 pm
Postby shortaru »
In post 716, Mewtaph wrote:I don't see why you're hard cockblocking giga either, so I guess Cheeky was right on you being pocketed hard there.
Of the two new replacements, she's the only one that has even tried to advance the game. Former has been almost as dead as his predecessor, so I want to make it official.
That's why.
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In post 712, shortaru wrote:If Former flips red, I'm going to be very interested in Mew tomorrow.
Good for you, watch Former hard town it up and you'll be eating your words. If that doesn't happen I'm not losing anything not sheeping the loudest player in the game by 100 posts.
Why, did you tell him to get his ass out of the scum PT and into the game thread?
Oh lord, you are conf biased. What are you going to say if FF flips town? Probably can't put your pride town in that case and will just start chasing implosion tomorrow.
Who knows? A lot can happen overnight.
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In post 519, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Emyrs
Fine with setting this up preparing for an EoD scramble because I am not sure if I can make it to the end of the deadline. Lots of people are using PoE on D1 which is a sign that everyone is pretty villagery. Emyrs is LHF, but I am not opposed to it and I don't want to have my vote restricting other players that could actively vote shift near the deadline.
So... I think you should revisit this idea, Mew.
I got less information while sitting on that vote while exploring literally anything beyond it this entire game. Shit vote and I learned while talking with you while on that wagon that you are conf biasing hard on implosion, irregardless of his alignment you don't give him the light of day.
Right. I'm so confbiasing on implosion that I'm pushing the wagon HE STARTED with the interest of clearing him instead of screeching at the top of my lungs how former must be town since implosion is voting him.
This is the third time now that you've misrepped me looking for an angle to discredit me.
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In post 306, Mewtaph wrote:Also, shortaru, your vote doesn't reflect your content. Most of your recent content is focused on why implosion. Noone ISO's somebody and goes through with it through its entirety because it takes ages to do unless they have a strong hunch that they're going to find something.
In post 397, Mewtaph wrote:@shortaru, What do you think about Broxul's last two posts?
I pretty much quit paying attention to him because I'm free up with his bullshit excuses to scumread me.
1) I'm not the only one that got paranoid about the "not being lynched today" list that was coming to consensus. There have been a number of pushes on those in that list but mine on Stan was the only one that Broxul criticized.
2) He claimed me missing context was a reason to scumread me... which is so much bullshit that even the person I misread (who would love to lynch me for reasons of his own) called bullshit on it.
2b) Broxul didn't seem to mind you taking Ariane's post or of context. Apparently it's only scummy when a guy he's been leaning town on most of the game except for when he got paranoid on a townread does it.
So yeah... I'm kinda done reading Broxul posts.
If you think that Broxul is being paranoid, that is a town associated reaction. I like his last two posts. His first initial reaction was poor but I can see that coming from town as well.
Do you feel that Broxul using words that suggests that he isn't town is enough for your vote, or is there something else to it that you're hanging your hat onto?
In post 398, shortaru wrote:it's only scummy when a guy he's been leaning town on most of the game
except for when he got paranoid
on a townread does it.
This bit in particular suggests you are considering that Broxul could be paranoid.
In post 414, Mewtaph wrote:Yes, but the gist I am getting from post 412 is that you are frustrated with Broxul's slot, and in reference to the reasons why - you refer to:
"I'm not the only one that got paranoid (meaning that someone else is paranoid)"
"Broxul didn't seem to mind you taking Ariane's post out of context. Apparently it's only scummy when [Broxul gets paranoid on a town lean, which is me]".
You are suggesting through your posts, unconsciously or not, that you are thinking in some way or another that Broxul is, or could be paranoid.
"He claimed me missing context was a reason to scumread me... which is so much bullshit"
"I'm kinda done reading Broxul posts".
Reads as frustration.
So if I read this post fully from town intent, I read: "Broxul has shown signals of paranoia and I'm frustrated because of it"
Correct me if I am wrong.
In post 519, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Emyrs
Fine with setting this up preparing for an EoD scramble because I am not sure if I can make it to the end of the deadline. Lots of people are using PoE on D1 which is a sign that everyone is pretty villagery. Emyrs is LHF, but I am not opposed to it and I don't want to have my vote restricting other players that could actively vote shift near the deadline.
So... I think you should revisit this idea, Mew.
I got less information while sitting on that vote while exploring literally anything beyond it this entire game. Shit vote and I learned while talking with you while on that wagon that you are conf biasing hard on implosion, irregardless of his alignment you don't give him the light of day.
I dont think you understand how close to deadline we are
Also Mew, how can you predict someone will seem more towny as time goes on?
Kinda why I am leaning towards a Former/Mew team.
He didn't mind voting Former when he knew it wouldn't get Former lynched, but now that the rubber is meeting the road all we're getting there is static.
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Post #741 (isolation #258) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:54 am
Postby shortaru »
In post 736, Formerfish wrote:Or maybe I was able to become active and have the ability to change this slots equity through play.
If I'm guilty to you guys no matter what then do you. I would suggest letting the experienced player find their wings in this game. I'm much better with personal interaction.
Slinking through the day and "hard towning it up" when the deadline hits is scum 101.
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