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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:08 am

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In post 590, implosion wrote:
In post 585, shortaru wrote:implosion red flip will hard clear slimer slot.
I like this logic because it means a giga red flip will hard clear me~~~
Nope.

You slipped that slimer was town.

I pointed that out quite blatantly. That you would ignore the context of 585 for a cheap attempt at snark doesn't improve my read of you.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:09 am

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In post 598, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: Giga :(
I refuse to hammer that, so have fun lynching her without me.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:10 am

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In post 435, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 322, implosion wrote:I actually have a lot of weird paranoia that broxul is actually acting townish and it's just being missed. It's weird. Like feels townish possibly? There's a solid chance I'll join the wagon later. I just still don't feel great about slimer. Cheeky's summary on Broxul is pretty solid.
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In post 445, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 0, Malakittens wrote:
Broxul

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Noway you PoE this fast and include a null slot because of replacement potential.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:11 am

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In post 601, shortaru wrote:
In post 598, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: Giga :(
I refuse to hammer that, so have fun lynching her without me.
She pocketed you good short. I don't blame you <3
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:12 am

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To clarify, a) above, when I say maybe a scum lean I mean that responding only once you're called out /asked to seems to show little initiative, making it easier for scum to play. Could also be lazy town though, hence just a lean

Pedit: hm maybe, depends on whether you read it as 'I didn't have reads at the time I posted' or 'I haven't had reads and that's why I haven't been posting'

ppedit that edit was for short re short 'it's a stretch'
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:13 am

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In post 603, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 601, shortaru wrote:
In post 598, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: Giga :(
I refuse to hammer that, so have fun lynching her without me.
She pocketed you good short. I don't blame you <3
Wrong.

Implosion cleared her slot. Want me to Lynch her? Convince me he's town with a green flip or inno.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:16 am

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Im not lynching town D1 to prove I'm right. Giga and I know each other very well so you can believe me or not but when she flips red, I win.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:17 am

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It's a good idea if we have an investigative to check the IC.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:17 am

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When she flips green, you lynch implosion D2.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:19 am

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In post 608, shortaru wrote:When she flips green, you lynch implosion D2.
Well hopefully someone has cleared his slot by then. If not I'm fine making that deal.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:20 am

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I wouldn't count on it.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:21 am

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Ok let's do it your way.

VOTE: Implosion
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:23 am

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VOTE: implosion
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:13 pm

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Need more votes on Broxul.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:31 pm

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In post 517, Mewtaph wrote:Thoughts churning on Cheeky and giga.
Did this ever produce anything?

I'm curious because my thoughts on giga right now are that I like the posts about trying to dig into a scum!Stan mind set. Even if I disagree and don't actually feel stan is scum that process feels like it comes from town to me. I do agree with her take on Emrys right now, that we should wait for a replacement. Pressuring that slot hasn't had any effect so far. I'm not sure what effect a replacement coming in to a wagon on them might have. I feel like whomever is in that slot is going to be under intense pressure anyways because they will have to read through the game and produce content in less than 2 days time. I digress. I feel like I went into reading giga with a bias because I was scum-reading slimer, but came out thinking she might not be scum.

@implosion, can you make sense of for me? You say you think I'm towny and people are missing it but also that your going to join my wagon later. I don't know where the disconnect is.

Also @shortaru, can you explain why you think I'm a good lynch for today. You kind of defended me from Cheeky's push in 318 and 319 and then voted for me in 329. So again, I'm not sure where your mindset switched.

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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:33 pm

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In post 614, Broxul wrote:Also @shortaru, can you explain why you think I'm a good lynch for today. You kind of defended me from Cheeky's push in 318 and 319 and then voted for me in 329. So again, I'm not sure where your mindset switched.
10 posts happened.

Probably something within those posts.

Give them a read.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:52 pm

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announcementsEmyrs Baneheart is being replaced.
Deadline will be frozen if it expires before finding one. Day 1 will be extended.


Official Vote CountBroxul: [2] implosion, Mewtaph
stan1ey: [1] gigabyteTroubadour
implosion: [2] CheekyTeeky, shortaru,

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(4): Emyrs Baneheart, ariane, stan1ey, Broxul

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:54 pm

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@Cheeky: do you have specific meta reasons for thinking giga is scum that are easily explainable?
Broxul wrote:@implosion, can you make sense of 322 for me? You say you think I'm towny and people are missing it but also that your going to join my wagon later. I don't know where the disconnect is.
I don't really have actual concrete reasons to think you're town that I think are good, I just have paranoia. And like I mentioned, I thought Cheeky's summary of her reasons for joining the wagon was pretty good.
shortaru wrote:Nope.

You slipped that slimer was town.

I pointed that out quite blatantly. That you would ignore the context of 585 for a cheap attempt at snark doesn't improve my read of you.
It's really not ignoring context. I know that your argument is that I'm scum who slipped that slimer is town (which in the first place is kind of a very silly argument to make about an experienced player), but you also literally said that if I flip red it hard clears slimer's slot; the contrapositive statement of this is that if slimer's slot flips red, it hard clears me.

(and I don't particularly care that snark didn't improve your read of me; that isn't the primary point behind snark!)
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:16 pm

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In post 617, implosion wrote:the contrapositive statement of this is that if slimer's slot flips red, it hard clears me.
No it doesn't, because slimer isn't the one that slipped a townie.

And don't act like experienced players are incapable of making mistakes.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:22 pm

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Even inexperienced players "slip" things at a rate way, way less than common knowledge would say. Sure, there are things that can be inferred strongly in many cases; in this case I've already explained why the premise of it even being a slip is wrong because scum can absolutely be afraid of it looking bad to put a scumbuddy at L-1. And the slip argument only applies if you think I'm scum for other reasons; I'd argue it's a pretty terrible reason to scumread me, because "I think this could be scum afraid to look bad for putting someone at L-1" is a really, really reasonable argument to make as town, and the only reason you don't see that is because, as both Cheeky and I mentioned, you're projecting your own way of viewing the game of mafia onto me.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:23 pm

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Also replace common knowledge there with common knowledge in newbie games, probably. I can think of one real "scumslip" in any game of mafia I've ever played on this site; it was 100% explicitly no-way-around-it a scumslip. It was literally impossible to have been posted if the person in question (my scumbuddy) was town because of the context of the game, and basically would have explicitly outed both of us as scum if anyone had noticed. Nobody noticed it.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:29 pm

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In post 619, implosion wrote:And the slip argument only applies if you think I'm scum for other reasons;
Right. It's not like I posted a massive wall about you, our anything.

Talk about misrep.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:32 pm

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In post 617, implosion wrote:@Cheeky: do you have specific meta reasons for thinking giga is scum that are easily explainable?
Her logic makes sense as town. See my first post aftee I voted her and you get towny points if you can see what I saw in the faulty logic.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:35 pm

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In post 621, shortaru wrote:
In post 619, implosion wrote:And the slip argument only applies if you think I'm scum for other reasons;
Right. It's not like I posted a massive wall about you, our anything.

Talk about misrep.
I actually meant to mention that you had given other reasons but neglected to; my bad.

My point was that it's a poor reason in and of itself to scumread me.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:39 pm

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I'm also a little confused why Broxul unvoted giga without a revote when I've expressed potential interest in the slot and Mewtaph literally said he'd wagon it if someone put in legwork for it a page ago.

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