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VOTE: eggs

scummiest entrance so far

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it's real
just very weak
also sure and more don't rhyme
maybe try another time

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I don't really want to play until the two newbies who haven't posted show up

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Salad is town

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Sham is not
VOTE: Grand Sham

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Salad is town

He's already had more presence than the game we played with him so for all intents and purposes this is not indicative of his town meta. What makes him town this game?

this

Second, that post wasn't intended to sound lurkish, I'm just trying to avoid being mislynched for making little to none posts and there weren't much questions to answer for me then.

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Heheh, I like how 95% of people who ate playing this for the 1st time get lynched in 1st two days.

we'll come back to this post later
maybe

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I find him playing this weird game where he doesn't really have to interact as opposed to just dropping arbitrary statements like his salad read.

it's page 3
also my eggs vote was admittedly a very weak read based on low info
I'm surprised you're pushing me as scum bc we've played enough that you know how I open games

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I think it's more than that
but I'm not gonna go look

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I lied
I looked
we have one completed game together
and another with me as Loopdan
and an unrevealed number of games with me as various alts
I'll concede the point

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When TTTT pulls his vote we can be friends again. Promise.

I decline your generous offer of friendship
I like my vote

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I think grand slam is townish by proxy of tttt being scum.

imagine I'm not in this game
and tell me your thoughts on Slam in that context

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Have we ever been scum together or you were scum against me?

no and no

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TTTT, why did my Falnders-like post give you a scum read on me? Is there anyone else the appears to be scum to you? How can they pretend that you're not in the game since you colored me as scum after my first post?

1. it was overenthusiastic and team-building
2. not really
3. through the wonders of imagination

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VOTE: TTTT

is this RVS or based on your reads?

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@Voted
I know all you want is to talk about eggs
I'll share my thoughts on eggs if you share your thoughts on Sham
deal?

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i think eggs is town

I won't be surprised if salad is town

I agree on both

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I intentionally attempted to create a conflict with TTTT, somewhat like an aggression check that he immediately backed off of instead of pressing my motives. Forcing a 1v1 early probably would have been a good topic of discussion a level above rvs discussion.

I read your SR on me as over-exaggerated
1) you didn't vote me while calling me scum
2) you didn't really push
I didn't push back on what looked like a town reason to SR me

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less than 4 days left
@voted
@zeebu
@salad
can you guys plz at least start talking about the two main wagons?

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@Voted
eggs isn't the lynch today
plz focus elsewhere

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yeah, I could see alex scum

I still want sham, would compromise onto alex

you complete me

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voted is also an option

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What's the case on Alex? I have been paying less attention to this game than other games, so can just point me to a post if it exists

do you still think sham is scummy?

of course, lol

he reminds me of me my first game so i am now leaning town towards him

in what specific ways does he remind you of a young zeebs?

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after it was explained a bit i didnt panic and started playing the game by trying to give reads and scum hunt.

where does Sham do this?

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TTTT is probably town, but is good enough that I wouldn't catch him D1 if he wasn't.

what?
I don't think you've played against scum me

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that's a good answer

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I think I've probably said something similar about you and other SEs in Newbie games before

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TTTT, is Salad still town in your eyes?

yes

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VOTE: Voted

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This is a valid tell for the newbie queue specifically. TTTT didn't explicitly state this was the reason for his vote but it's implied and I buy it.

for the record
it's more than just "hey guys"
entry posts that attempt at team-building are scummy
but his recent stuff is much better

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VOTE: Voted

I've been quietly SRing voted since 145
I'm ok lynching Alex
but think voted should be considered too

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I was pushing eggs because I wanted to see if sameone would join the wagoon. He is active, asks good questions and all these things making him not a good lynch. But perheps a newbie scum could join the wagoon because...it is a wagoon. Noone catched, though.

I 0% believe this
if it was a gambit you would have outed it earlier
not wait until you are being wagoned and there's 2 days left

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wow voted wagon is growing so fast it might be sold out before I can buy a ticket.

=/

tickets are still for sale
get yours while you can!

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so three days left
I mean that is different than I was thinking

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so I like 40% believe that now

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intent to hammer Alex

claim your role

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I don't care about the SE thing
voted is a scumlean bc he dicked around most of day1
he wouldn't talk about anybody other than eggs
even when I asked
maybe it was a town gambit
but I don't know why it couldn't have come from scum!Voted trying to look like he's making a town gambit
it's a lazy way to try and appear town while doing nothing and making no commitments

Pedit: zeebs got there first

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@zeebs
why Voted over Alex?
you're SRing both slots right?

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@Alex
are you willing to lynch Voted?
your two SRs (me and Sham) aren't viable wagons with 48 hours left

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TTTT took a while to get going, but I think I'm upgrading him from my quoted post based on last 8 hours or so much more reasoning and work done. On the other hand #244 I wouldn't say 'quietly' looking at your ISO which seems pointed at him quite strongly, did you feel the need to justify yourself?

I didn't state any read on Voted until 186 so yeah it was quiet
yes I did feel the need to justify that vote

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@Alex

if you come back and don't claim your role immediately I'm hammering

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What's the etiquette re prodding? 48 hours from his last post puts us 12 hours from the deadline if memory serves. Can we request an early prod and is this the sort of situation when it's appropriate?

it can't hurt to ask

@MOD requesting early prod on Alex due to deadline

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and I make 4

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@Plot

will there be a deadline extension if Alex is replaced?

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I'll save you the trouble
VOTE: Alex

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Alex logged in yesterday
before that he hadn't logged in since 209

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that's not how you described my play day1
other than the hammer what changed?

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Im not gonna defend/explain that hammer
at least not rn

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^you stole my thoughts

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to be clear
nobody should put a second vote on anybody
until we are all talked out

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also if you have an inno or guilty
I'd advise you slowplay

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VOTE: Sham
plz provide
1. your thoughts on day2
2. your current reads

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nope

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not sure how giving advice to slow play any reveals is AI
but you do what you gotta do

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@RCE
a guilty or inno could come from a cop, Nea, or tracker
massclaim is fine after we hash out sham

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TTTT I expect a solid reason for the D1 hammer after the claim at the latest.

he was on L-1 with intent
I'd posted (297) that he needed to claim in his next post or I'd hammer
he logged into the site but didn't post
he was about to be replaced
when I'm confident we've caught scum I don't need a good scum player replacing in and escaping a lynch with their seductive words
^that was my reasoning at the time

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I think it's 10-1 in newbies rn
MJL wrecked the streak
I kinda wanna SR RCE for the game state devolving to this point
but that'd be hypocritical

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^thats a reply to 399

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I think Sham claims first here
then popcorn

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I've been back and forth on tttt I think there is scum equity but he has specific posts that ping town. Like his response to the hammer, I was confident on Alex flipping scum for the same reason. I figured he hadn't posted after checking the site because he was caught scum struggling with what he should be doing or saying.

are you saying you were aware Alex had logged in but not posted after intent was stated?

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click on their name
user profile comes up
on the right is "last visited"
but it can be disabled
and a user can check the box at each login to hide their login during that visit

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RCE is probably town here
408 is accurate and it's much more likely for town than scum to track that

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@Plot

requesting deadline extension upon Sham's replacement
he hasn't posted the entirety of this gameday

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I go to bed anytime between 10-12 EST

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Also also:
If we need more time, we can no lynch I guess.

depending on how the rest of the claims go
this might be the plan

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UNVOTE:

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VT
Salad your turn

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1) why would scum target zeebu n1 if they haven't seen a doc crumb - URAP, RCE/TTTT seem like much better targets

this
Zeebu fakeclaiming here after seeing RF's JK claim (and no N1 death)
is more likely than scum targeting zeebu N1

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VOTE: zeebu

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If Zeebu flips scum, I'm gonna jailkeep TTTT. If I die, you know it's not him.

it's autowin if zeebu flips red and Eggs is town
JK me N3
if RF dies
D4 we lynch URAP

if no kill on N3 lynch me D4
N4 JK URAP

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I think this is strictly better than a no-lynch

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UNVOTE:

I forgot Salad exists

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also it's RCE not URAP
sorry

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@Salad
plz share your thoughts hopes and dreams

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I'll be here before deadline to hammer

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not surprised at the no kill
RedFlavor block salad tonight

pedit: look we are all here

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Salad wouldn't no kill.

then you are scum
and I don't think you are

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VOTE: TTTT

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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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I hate being scum
I hate it even more when I really like the playerlist

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I told zeebu to claim doc
which was really dumb
he should have claimed cop

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I fell into a trap of "oh look nobody wants to play let's just let the game stall"
which works great until a PR claims a guilty

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believe it or not
in Newbie games I rolled town 11 times in a row before this game
I haven't been scum since Matrix6

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Like I didn't feel like you would make the assertion that we were in an A column setup if you weren't ready to claim cop.

I really was talking about investigatives in general terms
but I was pretty nervous when you said I alignment slipped

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gg town
thanks for modding Plot!

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I'm ok with early release of scum thread

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thanks MJL