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"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #22 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:30 am
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
Might have finally found a game I'm motivated to play. ahs anyone got experience with the new setup yet? selynee seems slightly scum, but not much. oh, and farkran is town I think. not sure tho.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #184 (isolation #6) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:13 am
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
Movile posting so I'm gonna bevlazy, but Menalque and Creeper is my first guess. My farkran read was a reaction test to see if anyone would go along, and Menalaue did. Selynee is town tho for fakehammer. Teacher probtown, emps maybe town. Skitter is always town. I'm enjoying this game.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
tone was bad, and then he blew it up way too big. He's expeerienced enough to know that D1 reads aren't exactly bulletproof. you make a simple response and let the game develop.
just read her gtkas, I think she talks about it in there
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idk if we should talk about this as it's from the speakeasy and I think it's kinda scummy to bring that up knowing that
That is an incredibly bizarrely reachy take. Speaking about parts of the site is scummy how?
He's bringing it up in support of something he's saying, but multiple people here won't have access I'm p sure, and I thought the rule was that we're not meant to talk about anything in speakeasy outside of it? So it's a way to say "hey, there's evidence for my claim" without it being verifiable/without it being something we should really be discussing, if my understanding of rules about everything in speakeasy is correct
I'm not talking about speakeasy, it's easily verifiable since you have the experience to go look, and it's all about a very minor point since skitter has one post.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #341 (isolation #16) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:40 pm
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
heyy skitter! it's been a while. my tr was in fact lazy, but it's early d1 and assuming you're town usually works out. In this case, I think it did, you sound pretty townie.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
Farkbis town, skitters reasoning is good and I agree, tone also seems right. Creeper is bad on tone, and also his reaction test claim rang hollow. I can easily see newbscum seeing someone else (me) use it as reasoning for seemingly bad play and using the same excuse to cover themselves.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
In post 517, Farkran wrote:if you care to help me @selynee @skitter @emps @nmsa @menalque please tell me why you are so strong on teacher being town because it doesn't make any sense to me.
as far as i'm aware, he's still sortable by post count
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
In post 349, emps wrote:i dunno i could buy creeper/fark as the gamesolve but that feels wayy too easy
In post 358, teacher wrote:Here’s my issue w the wagon right now: fark has been put on L-1 twice (five votes, as skitter replaced sushi). I know I’m town and I lean heavily that way on spammy. So unless we are saying the team is exactly creeper-fark, farks likely a Mislynch.
Skit- talk to me about Menalque because I melded w you a bit there. I disagreed w the early townread on darque and his reads (there, emps) have seemed a little swingy. The meld was strong on the 180-220 bit of reaching to scumread spam after what was to me an extremely towny reaction test - like Nigeria at the player Nd looking for a rationale.
I’m not saying that’s not the team btw. But if people are inclined there, I think the higher value play is to lynch creeper.
UNVOTE: Menalque VOTE: creeper
it should be mentioned Fark is at L-1
What exactly made all of this happen? I know it's probably something in my previous post, but what?
at the time i felt like the reaction test was the fakest shit ever and i felt like it was an excuse to back out of the SR on me
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #580 (isolation #25) » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:08 am
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
Fark doesn't die today. He's almost certainly newbtown. Creeper is the best lynch. I'm willing to reconsider on Menalque, but Creeper is almost certainly scum.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
In post 580, NotMySpamAccount wrote:Fark doesn't die today. He's almost certainly newbtown. Creeper is the best lynch. I'm willing to reconsider on Menalque, but Creeper is almost certainly scum.
VOTE: Creeper
I rly don’t like this? Making me feel like NMSA/fark could be a thing
I haven’t really been reading properly, have they been interacting a lot or kinda ignoring and pushing different directions?
The way and timing seems like a way to get off a wagon that would flip green while it’s low momentum, but giving him the option for a narrative to hop back on me or hammer if the chance comes up/the winds blow that way again
From my admittedly very brief skim, I don’t see why one of fark/creeper is scummier than the other, but I also doubt they’re scum together. Given that, idk why to push creeper, but one explanation is that if gets the lynch off the buddy who is kinda being townread by people, maybe enough to get him through tomorrow as well after creeper!green and if that happened it would definitely be some serious WIFOM in 5p lylo
NB: when I do get around to catching up later, this might completely flip
Not voting until I catch up properly
kinda hypocritical of me to say this, but this is lazy.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #762 (isolation #31) » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:53 am
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
In post 699, Sushi Martyr wrote:If you want me to make my case by going back and scouring the thread for post numbers of specific examples and make nitpicky wallposts couched in terms of uncertainty, I can try doing that, but it's probably not going to be today (as in the actual day, not the game day).
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
You haven't been updating your reads for a while (if ever). Please do.
I'll try ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I feel like the whole Farkran & emps thing is just two townies fighting. I still have my townreads on them from earlier and I just think a lot of the arguments came from town perspectives.
NSMA's recent question to me felt town-ish but he honestly hasn't been putting much into the game (of course that's silly coming from me). My reads on him are more or less null.
I think a lot of people are overlooking Selynee and Sushi Martyr. I see good questions from them both, feels like town but could easily be made up.
In post 605, Selynee wrote:EC, what is your opinion about teacher's answer to your question?
Spoiler: The question and answer being referred to, for reference
In post 516, EpicCreeper9002 wrote:I'd like you to flesh out your read on me too, teacher. I've shown up pretty low on your recent list, and you seemed to turn against me around the same time as Spam did.
You’re an empty slot, but by choice not availability. You haven’t participated in the game. And you’ve resisted doing so when pushed.
I’ve expressed my thoughts on similar slots before:
(im good w/ your lynch......) “for a reason that seems callous -- if red, which I think is >rand, great. IF green, still not bad. I do believe in the 1:1 on and off wagon, so a green flip would have told me to reexamine my townreads. But given that [creeper] has not contributed any scumhunting OR (and the OR is in fact important here) claimed VLA to return at a date certain, even a green flip would have also removed a liability. This a lesson I learned a little later in my time on MS, but it makes sense to me. D1 and D2, you should of course try to scum hunt. But you should also get rid of town liabilities -- nullish folk that scum wont kill. Town liabilities should not make it to lylo because (1) they are an easy mislynch for scum to push and win the game, and (2) they havent been invested enough to have game-saving reads themselves.”
For one, your reasoning with "town liabilities" makes sense. Of course it's better to lynch scum, but as you say you think that's a possibility as well I can see where you're coming from. But I also find it odd that you came in after NSMA did, and also after what I think was my most contributive post at the time.
I'm gonna be completely honest here: I have no idea how to do this lol. I feel like anything I say will just make my case worse.
I've said this before, but I think a lot of people think my amount of experience playing Mafia in the past correlates to my skill level. That is very much not the case and I am still horrible at the entire analysis thing
In post 706, Sushi Martyr wrote:I kinda wish this thread didn't feel like a minefield where one wrong word or post and suddenly half the players are shouting for your head
this is me
So tell me, how does the fence feel? You've been sitting on it all game, so you ought to know.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
In post 642, teacher wrote:I think I get it. I don’t agree, but that is what it is.
Talk w me about the Menalque wagon “stalling out”. I didn’t see it happening before Farks vote. I feel like it was more game than wagon if that makes sense - that it wasn’t the wagon but the normal drop in activity after an early rush. Did it actually feel stalled to you? (This is more a gestalt/worldview question than a factual one, just curious about the “feel” of the game others described.
Do you think there’s a way to get creeper in? If not, any interest?
ya it did; it felt like the game just kinda ~slowed~ as he was getting wagoned, and ime that often happens in a game this size because scum are getting wagoned
there was a lot of activity in the early part of the game, and i still kinda feel like there's a lot (although not quite as much) activity now.
i def felt like there was a dip in activity for a couple of days that kinda coincided with the wagon
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #799 (isolation #38) » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:28 am
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
Menalque wrote:UNVOTE:
I wanna think more about scum!skitt
get back on the wagon or there'll be a new one on you. there is no good reason not to be on creeper right now. he's the most likely player to be scum, and if by chance he happens to be town, we've gotten rid of a slot that wasn't giving us anythig anyway. I'm fine with you thinking about scum!skit, but you're not getting that lynch today without an insane scumslip.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
I genuinely tried though. My game experience is A LOT different than yours. Fakehammering was considered a dirty play, days lasted 48 hours (hence some of my posts containing SRs against people not writing much), WAY more PRs in our setups, etc.
We valued VCA and association analysis more than everything, progression is worth nothing on d1
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
I've never played in a game with masons, will be interesting to see how it goes.
Also, hi, everyone!
I saw this as a claim to being a mason - it implies knowledge that they are present. @Emps, this was one of the reasons, I saw this as a crumb of being masons with Spam -- the quote.
my 30 was just me hammering in the mason crumb to the point where it was undeniable in case fark ended up really needing it. he would have too, without creeper and skitter
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #954 (isolation #55) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:50 am
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
In post 950, teacher wrote:@Emps - reasons I TRed Sushi. I even put a hyphen between spam and sushi in my readslist in 458 to let them know I had seen the cross crumbing (I caught NMSAs, but didnt put it as claiming w/ Fark til Fark claimed.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #963 (isolation #58) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:55 am
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
In post 961, teacher wrote:Eh, it was the best I saw -- starting caps not necesarily in order. I think you did better than NMSA on hiding the crumb really well, but I can understand why. I look forward to you outing it after others try.
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC
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Post #966 (isolation #59) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:57 am
Postby NotMySpamAccount »
In post 964, Farkran wrote:Also, credit for the crumbs goes to NMSA. We stopped using crumbs back there because there has been a game where EVERYONE crumbed the shit out of themselves and then any day code was banned.
ok that's hilarious. we have a rule here against code or tiny text, but crumbing is allowed
"NMSA called out all three of us as scum or null in his reads list. Good thing no one's actually reading that." -Enter
"NMSA was at least a pretty easy mislynch that I didn't have to get my hands dirty to attain" -RC