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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:50 pm

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In post 346, EpicCreeper9002 wrote:
In post 332, skitter30 wrote:
In post 177, EpicCreeper9002 wrote:My biggest townread is probably Farkran, for getting people to talk. The fact that they pointed out they did this kind of negates it though. I also lean town on emps for asking those questions to analyze.
ok
a) why is 'getting people to talk' townie?
b) is farkran the only person you think has been doing this?
c) why does pointing out that they did this negate the townread?
a) Discussion is what really brings out all of the posts people analyze. It's progressing the game in its purest form
b) Honestly I think the sheer amount of posts is getting to me and I haven't really looked into things. That's probably my fault
c) Mainly if there's a case of "oh I'm scum but I'm doing a townie thing look at me I'm town" (is there a name for this?)

The vote on emps was for reaction testing. He still leans town for me.
UNVOTE: emps

I do have a lot of experience with (chat) mafia but that doesn't mean I'm good at it haha. In other words, don't ask me what I'm doing because I don't know either

I'll see you all tomorrow. (Real life tomorrow, not game tomorrow)
Now "tomorrow" doesn't look like a word. Dang it.
c is called LAMIST or Look At Me Im So Town

but town can do it as well

ive been getting LAMISTy vibes from fark as well tbh
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 347, NotMySpamAccount wrote:yeah I'm confident on creeper scum now.
Spam - thoughts on fark?
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:54 pm

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In post 314, emps wrote:
In post 311, skitter30 wrote:ok catching up now!
dont make it a wallpost

please oh god dont do this to me
they made it more than just a wallpost oh god no multiple wallposts
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:54 pm

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In post 305, emps wrote:
In post 281, emps wrote:
In post 53, Farkran wrote:Now i look like a good girl from an anime i like. Also hello to all the newly arrived.

My readings so far:

Selynee - town 70% very proactive
Menalque - town 50% mafia 50% trollish
teacher - mafia 60% too serious to be town PR
notmyspam - town 70% plays like expert town
sushi - town 50% mafia 50% trollish
emps - town 65% aggressive play

Other two have yet to speak, 80% at least one mafia hiding in there

UNVOTE:

VOTE: teacher
why is being serious scummy? what changed between theese posts that turned Selynee & I into SRs? why on earth is nmsa 70% town rn? what part of his play felt "expert" to you?
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:57 pm

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In post 157, Farkran wrote:
In post 154, Menalque wrote:not in a way that I understood, so talk me through it
Accusing you is just as useful as you accusing me. Just look at all the ruckus. All this stuff will be useful later, even if i die today.
ah yes look at all this ruckus ah yes sweet sweet confusion that im causing

dw itll be super helpful for town when we go into d2 saying "wait wtf farkran was town!?!?!?!?"

where is the town motivation here
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:58 pm

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In post 161, Farkran wrote:Updated readings:

Notspam: town 70%
Menalque: town 60%
Sushi: 50/50
Emps: 50/50
Selynee mafia 60%
teacher mafia 60%

Other two people still MIA, still convinced there's 1 mafia there
what on earth made selynee read as scum and why do you already have such strong scumreads and then call out one of skitter/creeper as scum
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:59 pm

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also, a lot of farks readlists feel reaally forced
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:01 pm

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In post 174, Farkran wrote:
In post 173, Selynee wrote:Nah, not against the rules. Also, if there was a
real hammer against town page 6
, person would be lynched 90% of the time D2. Not such a great deal for mafia.

Why is Notspam town?
Are you saying
anyone hammering town in d1 is going to be lynched d2?
How optimistic of you. I like your style though, you really look like town when questioning like that. It's your actions that i am doubting.
wow man i love misreps its like my fav thing to do as well wanna be friends
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:03 pm

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Here’s my issue w the wagon right now: fark has been put on L-1 twice (five votes, as skitter replaced sushi). I know I’m town and I lean heavily that way on spammy. So unless we are saying the team is exactly creeper-fark, farks likely a Mislynch.

Skit- talk to me about Menalque because I melded w you a bit there. I disagreed w the early townread on darque and his reads (there, emps) have seemed a little swingy. The meld was strong on the 180-220 bit of reaching to scumread spam after what was to me an extremely towny reaction test - like Nigeria at the player Nd looking for a rationale.

I’m not saying that’s not the team btw. But if people are inclined there, I think the higher value play is to lynch creeper.

UNVOTE: Menalque
VOTE: creeper

it should be mentioned Fark is at L-1
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:04 pm

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In post 231, Farkran wrote:I had assumed (and i'm still not entirely convinced) that she was NOT aware her hammer vote was fake
why

just why

newbs here arent "hey first game ever onsite"

they have clearly played a game before and (somewhat) know what they are doing
fakehammers arent exactly accidental
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:05 pm

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fark is at L-2 i think but we should wait for a vc before placing another vote
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 231, Farkran wrote:In post 182, Sushi Martyr wrote:
Selynee wrote:
Nah, not against the rules. Also, if there was a real hammer against town page 6, person would be lynched 90% of the time D2. Not such a great deal for mafia.

Why is Notspam town?


@ Farkran: Can you answer the question at the end of it? That part confused me too (you putting NMSA at 70% town).


I understand you think of me as a newbie, and legitimately so since this is my first game in this forum, and my first mafia game altogether after more than 7 years. I'm not hiding behind the newbie shield though, i am getting tells from people's posts and actions. Most pro-town people at the moment are notmyspam, Menalque, possibly sushi. I also really didn't like epic posts, i'd like to hear more from him - skitter is hiding behind VLA so anything i say about her would be irrelevant at this point.
completely dodged the question gj
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:08 pm

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In post 307, Menalque wrote:I’m scumreading one of (emps, frak) but I don’t know who yet

UNVOTE:
You’re right. It’s L-2.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:08 pm

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In post 269, Farkran wrote:I never defend anyone but myself unless i have specific and reliable information for doing so.
if you dont defend ur trs when they're being sred for stupid reasons...

what are you doing? if someone you tr is being wagoned, dont just sit there and let it happen. there is no town motivation in this.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:08 pm

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i thought mena was voting nmsa then unvoted?
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:10 pm

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In post 364, emps wrote:i thought mena was voting nmsa then unvoted?
Yup. Right again. Part of the 180-220 but I was just mentioning. :facepalm:
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:10 pm

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In post 271, Farkran wrote:I will try to make myself clear to everyone now. I am accusing teacher to be scum because the majority of his posts are about playing gentle towards others while offering meta explanations that are useful outside of the game, but their in-game value is very much questionable. Perhaps that's just the way he likes to roll but it's exactly how i would play if i were in his position and got a scum role.

I might be wrong? Of course. Do i have any other good lead to this day? Just Selynee and emps. The latter also just said he has town readings on teacher, so he's currently my second best candidate for today's lynch.
"teacher the powerscummer is scum kthxbye"
"that guy who fakehammered me and is like only ever scum if i am is scum"
"that guy trying to pressure me and actively question my reads is also scum btw"

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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:13 pm

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In post 284, Farkran wrote:About Selynee's fakehammer, though: as i said, sushi didn't notice it, i almost didn't notice it. Was it so obvious to you? It wasn't to other people. Why would you call it bullshit?
do you think the person behind the fakehammer had no clue who they were already voting? thats why i called it bullshit. they definetly knew what they were doing and ur arguement for sely being scum is reaaaaally reachy and bad
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:13 pm

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Eh, knowing the wagon comp and timing now, I like it more. Thanks for that emps.

VOTE: Fark.

Thats L-1, folks.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:14 pm

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god you stole my "thats l-1 folks" thing
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:14 pm

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or did i steal that from you
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:15 pm

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Sorry Nexus (FYI to board, the unvoting thing is not typical). To put it in your preferred format:

UNVOTE: creeper
VOTE: Fark
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:16 pm

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I didn’t know it was a thing. I may have done it before, I may not have.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:16 pm

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wOaH wTf TeAcHeR wHy DiD yOu HaMmEr He WaS aT l-1
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Hammer test bro :lol:

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